posted July 18, 2015 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Did those passive mars people you know have any mars aspects to the sun, moon, pluto, or uranus?

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posted July 18, 2015 06:21 PM            

Having Mars in Cancer means that how you assert yourself is influenced by the Moon- which is a naturally changeable planet (lunar cycle). KRS Astrology has an excellent description.

Mixing emotions and exposing vulnerability (moon) never ends up well in pursuing a person's goal or solving a conflict (Mars). Mars fares well in Capricorn because being Saturn-ruled, Mars makes decisions based on foresight and logic, not mood swings.

For the people you're describing as putting up a front, my guess is that they are putting up a front (Mars) to hide their emotions (moon) because they feel vulnerable and don't wish to show it.

However, having a well-aspected Mars in Cancer means that they have a personal set of morals that motivates them, have a good survival instinct, and are loyal to their causes/family.

posted July 18, 2015 09:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
I have mars in cancer trine pluto in scorpio by 1 degree i have no problems getting what i want and especially standing up for my self idc how big a person is i will fight him with my all i wont be an easy win or give up, lets just say the people who have seen that side of me were "very" surprised i actually fought another mars in cancer in high school in the bathroom i rocked him lmfaooo he had sun opposite mars funny thing is after that fight we ended up being good friends haha

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Haha @ "I rocked him". Ya, I don't see these ppl as pussycats,haha! They can surprise ppl when stepping up to the plate. I've noticed that these ppl have great staying power and they dont over smother like moon in cancers!

posted July 18, 2015 11:36 PM            

The exception is when that conflict is against someone/something the Cancer is loyal to in which case the conflict can cause them to suppress...yet nurse a grudge (possibly forever), and god help you if you push them too far because when they snap they snap hard, as in they can suddenly be on the fast track to prison life whether the person is male or female. And trying to make Cancer jealous is a profoundly stupid mistake, probably worse than trying to do that to a Scorpio (OTOH, maybe Scorpio shows more patience and ability to get away with what they do than a Cancer can, though both Scorpio and Cancer may just freeze you out instead of seeking revenge--if you're lucky).

My cousin has a Cancer Mars and no one would think him passive, not even with his Pisces moon...but then he has a lot of fire in his chart with some Scorpio, and that includes a cardinal Aries sun to go with his cardinal 8H Cancer mars. He is moody, however, but people know better than to mock that, and when he shuts himself away no one disturbs him, out of fear if not respect.

posted July 18, 2015 11:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
Now, mars in Pisces can be passive and sneaky when getting what they want!
Water will always use their emotions whether good or bad!

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I know someone like that with a Pisces moon and Mars, and she is so passive even to the point of sometimes stopping me from standing up for her which is frustrating to me when I see people take such advantage of her or even put her life in danger with their games (like texting her when they KNOW she's driving and throwing a fit if she doesn't risk her life, and the lives of others, to reply right away) that she lets them get away with.

posted July 19, 2015 01:51 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I know someone like that with a Pisces moon and Mars, and she is so passive even to the point of sometimes stopping me from standing up for her which is frustrating to me when I see people take such advantage of her or even put her life in danger with their games (like texting her when they KNOW she's driving and throwing a fit if she doesn't risk her life, and the lives of others, to reply right away) that she lets them get away with.

Yet when she feels backed into a corner her Aquarian mind can come up with some brilliant ways to get rid of her tormenters in ways that they never even suspect she was behind their misfortune which got them out of her life. It's a good thing that it takes a lot before she resorts to such measures because her diabolical genius (which IMO combine the best creative aspects of Aquarius and Pisces) is frightening to contemplate. But everyone she did that to deserved it, IMO, and I say that with a Libra stellium.

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posted July 19, 2015 04:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
Wow, great story, what's her rising?

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posted July 19, 2015 08:50 AM            

I have moon in Capricorn-and although it's 9 deg away from an exact opposition to my Mars, it may well still colour the Mars in Cancer placement somewhat-especially given the comment above about Mars in Cancer being particularly influenced by the moon.

I'd say that I'm passive 99.99 % of the time. I despise confrontation and wouldn't get involved in arguments unless I thought I absolutely had to.

I'd say I probably came across very much as you describe in my early teenage years in particular, for various reasons-so there's definitely a risk of drifting towards extreme passivism. Having said that, the more you progress in life, the more you feel that fighting (especialy the metaphorical kind) is sometimes a necessary evil-or at least that's the case with me.

even when I am riled up, unless I have a specific bone to pick with someone I'd stil prefer to retreat and let it out using some kind of stress relief. I remember a work colleague saying I'm always so laid-back, though when something's going wrong I really don't feel it! I normally reframe from showing it when I can unless someone is really letting us down though-and in that instance, I bend over backwards to insure no one else gets caught in the crossfire.

In fact, there's only been one partially physical fight I've been involved in I can remember-in that instance, "the other" was being ultra patronising towards my best friend (because she happens to speak English as a second language)-and if there's one thing I can't stand, it's being patronised. I also thought he was touching her inappropriately, though it turned out he was just standing very, very close to her (though it was still an invasion of personal space in my book). The fact I believed the guy to be a first-class idiot to start with didn't help the situation either.

I'd say Passivism is the only Mars in Cancer trate I can relate to on a personal level-I'm pretty imotionally stable/independent, for example.

posted July 19, 2015 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Yes unless the mars is aspected by other planets like Pluto, Uranus, sun, etc, cancer mars can come across as wimpy.

Cancer is the most feminine sign, and mars is not comfortable asserting itself there. Just lke the crab needs its shell to feel secure, mars in cancer needs some kind of protection before it can go into battle. It can manipulate others into protecting him...

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posted July 19, 2015 08:25 PM            

This Cancer sun was the adoptive father of a guy I know, and by himself the father was the laid back agreeable sort (though he got all his work done), yet he'd do anything his wife said, ANYTHING. And his wife (henceforth called the mother as I switch to their son's POV) was sadistic in the extreme and she used him as a weapon against the kids, and he'd do whatever. I'm talking Stephen King levels of abuse, he'd do it stoically, show no emotion, only devotion to the mother as he did it (and he'd supposedly been that way once for his own abusive mother).

One day his son pointed out proof positive that the mother was lying about why she wanted him beat into a bloody pulp (he did so at the time and the father beat him then for that as well, but then he brought it up again when they were alone and his father was calm without the malicious influence of his mother) and his father admitted he knew it was a lie, just that it was "better to go along" with it, and even expressed regret at beating and abusing him so...but of course it didn't stop. Though interesting enough as the boy got old enough to fight back the father didn't fear for himself, but when the boy threatened to do something that would result in the mother going to jail (for something she didn't commit, but given all the beatings and tortures he endured for things he didn't commit he didn't care) his father backed down and for the time the son had that power he was safe.

posted July 19, 2015 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
For what it's worth I thought I'd share a bit about a Cancer sun I'd heard about. I don't know anything about his chart other than his sun (and this was why the guy didn't like Cancer suns).

This Cancer sun was the adoptive father of a guy I know, and by himself the father was the laid back agreeable sort (though he got all his work done), yet he'd do anything his wife said, ANYTHING. And his wife (henceforth called the mother as I switch to their son's POV) was sadistic in the extreme and she used him as a weapon against the kids, and he'd do whatever. I'm talking Stephen King levels of abuse, he'd do it stoically, show no emotion, only devotion to the mother as he did it (and he'd supposedly been that way once for his own abusive mother).

One day his son pointed out proof positive that the mother was lying about why she wanted him beat into a bloody pulp (he did so at the time and the father beat him then for that as well, but then he brought it up again when they were alone and his father was calm without the malicious influence of his mother) and his father admitted he knew it was a lie, just that it was "better to go along" with it, and even expressed regret at beating and abusing him so...but of course it didn't stop. Though interesting enough as the boy got old enough to fight back the father didn't fear for himself, but when the boy threatened to do something that would result in the mother going to jail (for something she didn't commit, but given all the beatings and tortures he endured for things he didn't commit he didn't care) his father backed down and for the time the son had that power he was safe.

Again, the father was a Cancer sun and I don't know what his Mars or anything else was. But it's an interesting if disturbing look in how Cancer energy can manifest, and just how important loyalty is to them, that they could be so vile even to one's own child to please a wife. (The son did say his dad was supportive of him and even kind when his mother wasn't involved, which is perhaps why he hates his mother more than his father even though his father did most of the physical abuse, and he also mentioned how his mother's smile as he was beaten or tortured was seared into his brain more than the taste of his own blood.)

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posted July 20, 2015 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Why do they have a hard time standing up for themselves all on their own? Why are they at their "bravest" when they have seeked out some protection somewhere? I have noticed this mars sign can take a very cowardly approach to conflicts/arguments etc esp the females of this mars sign. I have noticed they act so tough and outspoken when they have someone or something or a safe place to hide behind but are easily scared off when that "protection" does not work. Also noticed females of this mars sign can use the "victim" card alot to gain some protection and aren`t always honest with why they have gotten themselves into some crap. I have a friend with her mars in cancer and i want her to learn to be more brave and stand up for herself all on her own without needing any protection and feeding off on another person`s assertiveness. I want her to gain some respect among her peers bc when she do finally stand up for herself people do not take her seriously and have lost respect for her bc of her (sorry to say) cowardly approach to problems earlier. I bet not all cancer marses are like this but i have definitivly noticed this is one of the traits of a cancer mars bc she is not the only cancer mars i have seen this behaviour from. I can honestly see now why mars does not feel at home in cancer.

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i know tree people with mars in cancer
my sister
my brother
myself

none of us can be considered COWARD by any standard, but bad tempered. my sister used to be the type of protective mother who fight to protect the little sisters or litle brother. i cannot think of a more agresive woman than my sister. the problem i see with cancer mars is that cancer wants to nurture and mars could not care less about nurture. cancer mars more from being very nice to be super explosive. i advice to not be near a cancer mars in one of these explosive moments. then, you may change your perception about their cowardice. when i am angry i am not afraid of anything, i can confront any situation without fear, even dangerous situations, but something takes over me that i am not afraid any more. my sister is the same and i have not discussed with my brother, but he has his super outburst of temper and people respect him a lot..

posted July 20, 2015 04:19 PM            

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Originally posted by PegasusinFlight:
Mars is all about being able to out act, being able to assert oneself, forge forward and establish oneself, lay claim on what one wants. So signs like Aries, Leo and Sagitarius allow Mars to express what it is meant to do. Notice all of those are positive or male signs (traditionally associated with assertiveness and being able to expand oneself). When Mars is in Cancer, not only is it in a feminine sign, but also ne that is highly associated with subjectivity and emotions. Thus, Mars does not express itself directly or as forcefully as in other signs. Here, an expression of force, will or desire is always tempered by affect, by emotions and by feelings. Mars finds it challenging to express its energies in any straightfoward manner. Rather, like the crab, it zig zags and veers around in order to express itself. The rashness and lack of thought that might surface from a Mars is Aries is now engulfed in emotional considerations.

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posted July 20, 2015 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Gladspeelbkearns:
10th house Mars in Cancer guy here (with the Sun and Ceres both within 5 degrees of it). Interestingly Mars is also part of a Yod in my chart, with Uranus/Jupiter at the bass. Mars does also make a Sextyle to my NN and a wide trine to Saturn.

I have moon in Capricorn-and although it's 9 deg away from an exact opposition to my Mars, it may well still colour the Mars in Cancer placement somewhat-especially given the comment above about Mars in Cancer being particularly influenced by the moon.

I'd say that I'm passive 99.99 % of the time. I despise confrontation and wouldn't get involved in arguments unless I thought I absolutely had to.

I'd say I probably came across very much as you describe in my early teenage years in particular, for various reasons-so there's definitely a risk of drifting towards extreme passivism. Having said that, the more you progress in life, the more you feel that fighting (especialy the metaphorical kind) is sometimes a necessary evil-or at least that's the case with me.

even when I am riled up, unless I have a specific bone to pick with someone I'd stil prefer to retreat and let it out using some kind of stress relief. I remember a work colleague saying I'm always so laid-back, though when something's going wrong I really don't feel it! I normally reframe from showing it when I can unless someone is really letting us down though-and in that instance, I bend over backwards to insure no one else gets caught in the crossfire.

In fact, there's only been one partially physical fight I've been involved in I can remember-in that instance, "the other" was being ultra patronising towards my best friend (because she happens to speak English as a second language)-and if there's one thing I can't stand, it's being patronised. I also thought he was touching her inappropriately, though it turned out he was just standing very, very close to her (though it was still an invasion of personal space in my book). The fact I believed the guy to be a first-class idiot to start with didn't help the situation either.

I'd say Passivism is the only Mars in Cancer trate I can relate to on a personal level-I'm pretty imotionally stable/independent, for example.

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