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Topic: Analytical vs. Intuitive
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socialgraffiti Knowflake Posts: 368 From: uranus Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 18, 2015 11:50 PM
Do you consider yourself to be more of an analytical or an intuitive thinker? Please state your moon, Mercury, and 3rd house placements, as well as anything else you think contributes. If you are unsure, there's a test here. ANALYTICAL quote:
Time Static Linear One thing Small picture Focused Deliberative No perspective Classroom taught Objective Best option Needed when explanation required Deconstructive Object differentiation Objective/subjective differentiation Brain centered Disoriented Abstract Historically new Lawyers
INTUITIVE THINKING quote:
No time Dynamic Non-linear Many things Big picture Non-focused Instantaneous Perspective Experience taught Subjective Workable option Needed when action required Constructive Pattern matching No clear objective/subjective Heart centered Oriented Concrete Historically old Firefighters
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 4533 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 19, 2015 12:43 AM
All of my answers were intuitive. I have Moon conjunct Neptune in the 3rd house. And Mercury in Gemini conjunct Venus in the 9th house. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11698 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 19, 2015 12:47 AM
I have 6H Aquarius Mercury square 4H Scorpio Uranus. 8H Pisces moon, 3H Pluto.I can't separate the two. a) Intuition requires analysis. For instance, in the case of an outright premonition, you might compare what you expected with what the actual outcome was, and consider all the variables affecting your prediction (such as, time spent in meditation, pertinent transits, diet.) On a smaller scale, just taking stock of the strength of one's intuitive impulse is a comparison analysis, ie, "I get nerves in my stomach when I'm about to do something I regret, like getting on this airplane, but how bad are these nerves, and what are the consequences for heeding versus ignoring them?" b) Analysis can be pointless without intuition And by that I mean, one should know which things are worth taking the time to really scrutinize and pore through data about, before undertaking the analysis. Even if a person is so purely analytical that they do it for its own sake, like a game, it's good to have an intuitive handle on that truth, to place it within a larger perspective. --- In my opinion I answered this question analytically but perhaps, in others' view, I took such a flighty departure from the conventional responses they envisioned when they clicked here (intuitively, they thought another type of response was in store for them) that they won't grant me the title of analytical, as that is like an award to most people, and intuitive is the consolation prize. (But nevermind me, I'm just bored and don't feel like going to bed yet.... ) IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 2338 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 19, 2015 02:14 AM
When I did the math questions, I got intuitive, but for the other questions, PART III &PART IV, I got analytical.So I guess I'm both then? I'm a Virgo mercury and I would say I'm not really good in math. My moon is in Cancer sextile my mercury and venus. Moon in the 1st house Mercury and Venus conjunction in the 3rd house I have Mercury square Pluto, if that helps IP: Logged |
Eirlys Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Atlantic Coast Registered: May 2013
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posted July 19, 2015 02:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by socialgraffiti: Do you consider yourself to be more of an analytical or an intuitive thinker? Please state your moon, Mercury, and 3rd house placements, as well as anything else you think contributes.
Intuitive-- you had me at 'no time.' Pisces Moon
Leo Merc H4 H3 cusp in Cancer, which houses Saturn and SN. Mars in H12, Taurus.
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Odette Moderator Posts: 5812 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 19, 2015 09:44 AM
I got analytical on the test, but I stopped and thought about the answers. If I had quickly picked what came to me, I would've gotten the same answers as intuitive. I'm not sure how accurate this is. I've had to sit so many exams in my life, so I feel like I learnt how to be analytical the hard way. But deep down I'm more intuitive. Moon in Capricorn/7th, sextile Mercury in Pisces/10th. My 3rd house is in Leo and empty - ruled by Sun in Aries/11th. My AC is probably Gemini, very close to the Cancer cusp. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2242 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 19, 2015 10:19 AM
I got some analytical answers, some intuitive ones. 12th house sag mercury conjunct uranus. 3rd house aries moon square venus/sauturn/neptune/uranus/asc. IP: Logged |
socialgraffiti Knowflake Posts: 368 From: uranus Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 19, 2015 01:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I have 6H Aquarius Mercury square 4H Scorpio Uranus. 8H Pisces moon, 3H Pluto.I can't separate the two. a) Intuition requires analysis.
You seem to be in a contrary mood, Faith But I understand what you're saying. There's going to be an overlap between the intuitive mindset and analytical mindset. All people have a blend between them. Some people are so used to analysis that the process becomes so natural them it is similar to "intuitive." But there's usually some natural inclination between one of the two.
E.g. If a person is good at reading body language and can draw conclusions from small changes in tone/expression, that would be intuitive. However, they may doubt their intuition because of the lack of solid evidence (analytical). A person may be excellent at brainstorming ideas (intuitive), but their mind is disconnected from real possibilities (analytical). I've noticed many people with an analytical mindset may have a set plan (analytical), but they cannot execute it because they think, "What if there's something better? What if I doubt it later on?" (Intuitive) There is definitely a balancing act between the two, but usually a person has one dominant mindset. You can usually 'train' yourself into developing the second.
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Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 77 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 19, 2015 06:11 PM
I got 3/3 for analytical, but I consider myself to be extremely intuitive so idk how accurate this test is in determining whether someone is more inclined towards analytical or intuitive thinking..Moon in Aries, 1st House Mercury in Virgo, 6th House Venus in Gemini, 3rd House, Conjunct IC IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 5812 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 19, 2015 07:19 PM
Free Leon - I'm glad you got analytical on all 3... because I have a couple of questions. Your Mercury is in Virgo, opposite mine. I'm wondering, re: the first question (5 machines/5 minutes/5 widgets)... how long did it take you to answer it, and how did you work it out?My Pisces Mercury is square Uranus and I'm always under the impression that I work out answers in a weird, roundabout way. I just want to check how "normal" I am basically IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11698 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 19, 2015 07:57 PM
@socialgraffitiSorry As I said, it was late and I was in the mood for rambling. I suppose the distinction is valuable and some people are noticeably dominant in one way of thinking or another, though I've only recognized them in extreme examples, such as an analytical person with Aspergers (and even then, I've seen how intuitive they are, despite not reacting conventionally to social cues). I can't say I've ever known someone who struck me as dominantly intuitive. The most intuitive person I've ever met is also highly analytical. Perhaps intuitiveness is not a side people feel comfortable showcasing in public; seems that social propriety demands plenty of facts and figures to build credibility-- in this day and age, most people are interacting with strangers on a constant basis (as you and I are near-strangers) and rely on the language of fact to establish common ground. Even here where people are telling their life stories, it's all couched in numbers and pinned up against a scientific background (astronomical truth.) This here is a crossroads of analysis and intuition. Sometimes when I am at my most analytical, as when I am trying to rectify a chart, I get intuitive breakthroughs and "just know" where an asteroid will fall, or which numbers are going to be coming up when I switch the chart type. (ETA: The Virgo-Pisces axis is hinged together, after all. My 6H Mercury and Pisces moon sometimes do connect through that polarity.) Anyway, sorry for rambling again Perhaps you are right, most people are dominant one way or the other and perhaps that is provable through brain scans and whatnot ~ I just have never focused my awareness like that, nor classified people in those terms. Cheers IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10137 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted July 19, 2015 10:08 PM
I thought the test was weird, honeslty. I don't understand how the ball costs $0.05 cents when they clearly said the bat costs a dollar more. Tax? I'm jist stumped. I didn't have the patience for the 5 machines, widgets and minutes question either (laughs). Anyway, I was surprised I got intuitive thinker because I often (and this is even confirmed by others) anaylze things to death, pick subjects apart, find loopholes, etc. HOWEVER! when I know something is off with something it's SO difficult for me to put it into words and that, to me, falls in line with being an intuitive thinker.I have Mercury in Aries sextile Mars and ASC im Gemini, and conjunct my Sun and Venus in Aries. Mercury is in the 11th, so maybe that adds to being an abstract thinker? IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 5812 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 19, 2015 11:42 PM
Hanna - I think the first answer seems intuitively correct, but when you think about it - it's not. They're all trick questions lolThe ball costs - 5c. The bat costs - $1 and 5c. In total that's $1.10. If the ball was 10c, then the bat would be $1.10 - and the total would be $1.20. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11698 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 19, 2015 11:46 PM
Here's what I was thinking when I looked at the test (in italics): quote: 1) If it takes 5 machines 5 minutes to make 5 widgets, how long would it take 100 machines to make 100 widgets? _______ minutes
Is it the same kind of machine? You didn't tell me whether the speed of all machines was constant or not. So how should I know? quote: 2) In a lake, there is a patch of lily pads. Everyday, the patch doubles in size. If it takes 48 days for the patch to cover the entire lake, how long would it take for the patch to cover half the lake? _________ days
Lily pads don't grow that fast, and never cover the entire lake. You can't pull this cr*p on me.
quote: A bat and ball together cost $1.10. The bat costs $1.00 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost? _________ cents
This is a trick question, but I don't know why, and I don't feel like thinking about it long enough to pinpoint the trick. I don't trust people who make tests about imaginary lily pads to tell me anything serious about myself. Maybe if this was the first question I would have gone for it. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 5812 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 12:03 AM
Hahahaha!! Lollll Faith!That's what I thought about the first one. They didn't actually tell us whether they all start at the same time etc. You guys will think I'm an odd ball, but I'll tell you this in the interest of astrology lol (since I have Merc/Uranus). For the first question, I pictured this wide space, like a warehouse... with robots standing around in groups of 5. They all looked like the Terminator Anyway... since there had to be 100 robots, I pictured 20 groups of five robots, all standing around making widgets. So I was like... Ok... Since the first group of 5 will be finishing their 5 widgets in 5 minutes... That means all of the other 19 groups, working at the same time - will be doing the same thing. Hence, in 5 minutes each group would have 5 widgets done, which in total gives them: 100 widgets. I have a feeling this isn't the way a reasonable, rational, "analytical" person would solve the problem lolll IP: Logged |
socialgraffiti Knowflake Posts: 368 From: uranus Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 20, 2015 12:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Free Leon: I got 3/3 for analytical, but I consider myself to be extremely intuitive so idk how accurate this test is in determining whether someone is more inclined towards analytical or intuitive thinking..Moon in Aries, 1st House Mercury in Virgo, 6th House Venus in Gemini, 3rd House, Conjunct IC
Moon in the 1st... Does that mean you have an Aries ascendant? If so, that means you approach the world in such a way that you feel a situation out (Moon) and react quickly (Aries). Aries is a driven, energetic sign. All of the fire signs are considered intuitive, but Aries, being the first sign as well as a cardinal sign, shows this approach the most. Yet you have Mercury in Virgo, in its natural sign, and in the 6th house, the natural house of Virgo. Virgo is perhaps one of the most analytical signs, naturally oriented to detail. This is very different from Aries' approach, as the signs are naturally quincunx- sharing no modality or element. Therefore, the way you approach the world (1st) and your unconscious mind (moon) contradicts the analytical way in which you communicate (Mercury). Perhaps that makes more sense. Is there an aspect between Moon and Mercury? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11698 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2015 12:52 AM
@Odette (edits again- gotta stop staying up so late.) Interestingly, the "intuitive" answers were always the wrong ones. Isn't that a pretty transparent insult to the word intuitive? And it denies the value of intuition in mathematics.... Perhaps some of you have seen this documentary about Daniel Tammet... The Boy with the Incredible Brain If I remember correctly, he holds the record for reciting Pi to the 20,000th digit in 5 hours. He does this intuitively. The numbers just come to him, encoded in symbols. His natal chart is impressive: http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Daniel_Tammet IP: Logged |
socialgraffiti Knowflake Posts: 368 From: uranus Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 20, 2015 01:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: @socialgraffitiSorry As I said, it was late and I was in the mood for rambling.
It is totally fine~ quote:
Perhaps intuitiveness is not a side people feel comfortable showcasing in public; seems that social propriety demands plenty of facts and figures to build credibility-- in this day and age, most people are interacting with strangers on a constant basis (as you and I are near-strangers) and rely on the language of fact to establish common ground.
I very much agree. I think our society glorifies rationalism and science, which of course isn't bad, but condemning intuition- which is actually an incredibly useful tool- should not be part of that. I also think intuition itself is a very private process- the conclusions drawn usually come from almost instantaneois recognition of patterns, which is very difficult to verbalize. You may have heard of the novel Blink by Malcolm Gladwell, and it's pretty fascinating in how he describes that people's "gut instincts" (intuition) proved to be more accurate than months or even years of scientific analysis. I think there is such a negative stereotype against using snap judgment because people cannot understand it. There is no foreseeable rationale behind the conclusions. People may also confuse the conclusions from people's personal biases rather than intuition, which is usually neutral.
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Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 77 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 20, 2015 03:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Free Leon - I'm glad you got analytical on all 3... because I have a couple of questions. Your Mercury is in Virgo, opposite mine. I'm wondering, re: the first question (5 machines/5 minutes/5 widgets)... how long did it take you to answer it, and how did you work it out?My Pisces Mercury is square Uranus and I'm always under the impression that I work out answers in a weird, roundabout way. I just want to check how "normal" I am basically
It took me about 3-4 seconds. The first number that came to mind was 100, but I knew immediately that it wasn't the answer; I tend to pick up patterns in everything, so it was more or less an impulsive thought. Then I just went into logic mode and figured that the production time would always be the same (in this case 5 minutes) if the amount of machines is equal to the amount of widgets (1 machine produces 1 widget in 5 minutes) IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2242 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 20, 2015 03:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Lily pads don't grow that fast, and never cover the entire lake. You can't pull this cr*p on me.
Lol yes. This was what I thought. Half of my brain was churning out answers, and the other half was like "This sounds weird" the whole time. This reminds me of the time when one of the quizzes that popped up in my math test went something like "The velocity of a rising rocket is 5km/h..." Such mind-f*ckery lol. I'm happy to say that now I don't have to endure cr*p like that at school anymore haha IP: Logged |
Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 77 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 20, 2015 03:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by socialgraffiti: Moon in the 1st... Does that mean you have an Aries ascendant?If so, that means you approach the world in such a way that you feel a situation out (Moon) and react quickly (Aries). Aries is a driven, energetic sign. All of the fire signs are considered intuitive, but Aries, being the first sign as well as a cardinal sign, shows this approach the most. Yet you have Mercury in Virgo, in its natural sign, and in the 6th house, the natural house of Virgo. Virgo is perhaps one of the most analytical signs, naturally oriented to detail. This is very different from Aries' approach, as the signs are naturally quincunx- sharing no modality or element. Therefore, the way you approach the world (1st) and your unconscious mind (moon) contradicts the analytical way in which you communicate (Mercury). Perhaps that makes more sense. Is there an aspect between Moon and Mercury?
I have Aries Ascendant at 1 degree, with Aries Moon at 17 degrees and Virgo Mercury at 4 degrees. They're 137 degrees from one another, which would be a Sesqui-Quadrate aspect (+2 degree orb). What you said does make sense. I arrive to answers/conclusions through analytical/logical thought processing, but I only double-check for accuracy if the situation is important/calls for it. Otherwise I simply trust my initial answer and move on. The answer turns out to be correct around 90-95% of the time. The strange thing about my mind is that it wants to race ahead of itself (I can attribute this to Aries Moon in 1st House), and it has the liberty to do so, because it intuitively knows that the answer is correct (most of the time). I suppose it can be likened to a hybrid of analysis and intuition (analytical intuition? intuitive analysis?). I've always been like this, but I've taken it to a higher level through making a conscious effort to strengthen, balance, and harmonize the faculties of my left and right brain hemispheres. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10137 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted July 20, 2015 08:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Hanna - I think the first answer seems intuitively correct, but when you think about it - it's not. They're all trick questions lolThe ball costs - 5c. The bat costs - $1 and 5c. In total that's $1.10. If the ball was 10c, then the bat would be $1.10 - and the total would be $1.20.
I believe the correct answer, I just don't get how we were supposed to know the ball cost 5¢ when the only clie they gave was that the bat was $1.00 more. Math was never my strong suit. Or trick questions, lol. IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 1617 From: Inbetween Venus opposite Pluto Registered: Oct 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 09:23 AM
Intuitive and very very proud! I definitely expected to get that result. I've always hated maths and prefer English and written subjects tbh.I want to say it's down to my Scorpio ascendant, but I don't know. IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 942 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 10:49 AM
I consider myself more analytic just because I've pluto air singleton & invest more in thinking. But, my chart is possibly leaning towards intuitive & I can feel it in there. Mercury is opp pluto and seems to push in in the queue ahead of neptune aspects. Inconjunct merc to uranus confuses me as I think that's both. However, my result is intuitive. Not in a thinking mood today and bad at maths but it probably is right that I am intuitive although I generally try to compensate Moon sag, conj neptune Merc aries opp pluto, trine neptune, saturn, Mars, inconjunct uranus 3rd house cap, empty IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 5812 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 10:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Free Leon: It took me about 3-4 seconds. The first number that came to mind was 100, but I knew immediately that it wasn't the answer; I tend to pick up patterns in everything, so it was more or less an impulsive thought. Then I just went into logic mode and figured that the production time would always be the same (in this case 5 minutes) if the amount of machines is equal to the amount of widgets (1 machine produces 1 widget in 5 minutes)
Lol I kinda wish I had a Virgo Mercury for a day It took me a couple of minutes to picture my whole Terminator scenario haha I'm pretty sure that proves I'm more intuitive than analytical though! IP: Logged | |