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VacantGazer
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posted July 19, 2015 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what's the criteria ? I don't know if i can say what planets are afflicted in my own chart.

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posted July 19, 2015 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi VG, a planet is afflicted if it has hard aspects to other planets or angles for instance a square or opposition. I wouldn't consider a conjunction afflicted. Minor aspects like semi-square and sesquisquare, possibly depending on how tight the orb is.

Example: I have natal sun square Mars and saturn and opposite uranus. This is considered an afflicted sun.

However, my natal jupiter doesn't have any squares or oppositions to other planets or angles so it is not afflicted.

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posted July 19, 2015 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
Hi VG, a planet is afflicted if it has hard aspects to other planets or angles for instance a square or opposition. I wouldn't consider a conjunction afflicted. Minor aspects like semi-square and sesquisquare, possibly depending on how tight the orb is.

Example: I have natal sun square Mars and saturn and opposite uranus. This is considered an afflicted sun.

However, my natal jupiter doesn't have any squares or oppositions to other planets or angles so it is not afflicted.


Wow--didn't realize just one hard aspect would make a planet afflicted. If that's the case--ALL of my planets are afflicted except Neptune--is this normal???

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VacantGazer
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posted July 19, 2015 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tgem. All my planets have squares to them, except saturn and pluto... but they square my MC

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posted July 19, 2015 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Wow--didn't realize just one hard aspect would make a planet afflicted. If that's the case--ALL of my planets are afflicted except Neptune--is this normal???

Yes it happens.

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posted July 19, 2015 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VacantGazer:
Thanks Tgem. All my planets have squares to them, except saturn and pluto... but they square my MC

Pluto doesn't really count because it is more of a generational planet; the personal and social planets are the important ones: sun, moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.

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posted July 19, 2015 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Wow--didn't realize just one hard aspect would make a planet afflicted. If that's the case--ALL of my planets are afflicted except Neptune--is this normal???

All my personal planets are afflicted - it happens.

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posted July 19, 2015 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tgem

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posted July 19, 2015 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Sun is square Saturn are both planets afflicted, or just the Sun?

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posted July 19, 2015 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VacantGazer:
what's the criteria ? I don't know if i can say what planets are afflicted in my own chart.

This is an archaic term of medieval astrology I wish modern astrologers would stop using. It helps keep astrology in the dungeon of despair and doom. It is a relic of times in which there were leper colonies and superstitious anxieties.

Modern dictionary ...

affliction - something that causes pain or suffering.

Is this how we want to approach astrology?

It goes to the question of free will and fate.

Replace 'afflicted' with 'stressful' or 'driving' aspects and you have a better notion of what is going on. These are aspects in which one is looking for integration and balance of the energies involved, rather than enjoying their free flow from the outset.

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posted July 19, 2015 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
This is an archaic term of medieval astrology I wish modern astrologers would stop using. It helps keep astrology in the dungeon of despair and doom. It is a relic of times in which there were leper colonies and superstitious anxieties.

Modern dictionary ...

[b]affliction - something that causes pain or suffering.

Is this how we want to approach astrology?

It goes to the question of free will and fate.

Replace 'afflicted' with 'stressful' or 'driving' aspects and you have a better notion of what is going on. These are aspects in which one is looking for integration and balance of the energies involved, rather than enjoying their free flow from the outset.

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I like that Kannon--Driving sounds more positive.

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VacantGazer
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posted July 19, 2015 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
This is an archaic term of medieval astrology I wish modern astrologers would stop using. It helps keep astrology in the dungeon of despair and doom. It is a relic of times in which there were leper colonies and superstitious anxieties.

Modern dictionary ...

[b]affliction - something that causes pain or suffering.

Is this how we want to approach astrology?

It goes to the question of free will and fate.

Replace 'afflicted' with 'stressful' or 'driving' aspects and you have a better notion of what is going on. These are aspects in which one is looking for integration and balance of the energies involved, rather than enjoying their free flow from the outset.

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Thank you, i see this term alot, so I wanted to know what it meant in astrology. The way you have described makes more sense, I don't feel "afflicted", stressed at times, yes, of course there has been pain at times too, but it's not constant. Yes, as scorpi said, driving sounds more positive than afflicted.

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posted July 19, 2015 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an archaic term of medieval astrology I wish modern astrologers would stop using,

wow, Said very well , like you yanked those
words outta me.
We need tense apects. Or to quote an very old friend, "There just ain't no learnin when things are all hunky dory"> Rickytoad

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posted July 19, 2015 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
If Sun is square Saturn are both planets afflicted, or just the Sun?

Both..yay me.

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