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hearttreasure
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posted July 20, 2015 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think?

Scorpio or cancer placements is known to have a hard time to leave the past behind / let go.

I only have Scorpio in pluto and have no cancer placement. But sometimes I tend to hold the grudge although not too long but I remember.

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posted July 20, 2015 08:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto hard aspects to personal planets or the ascendant or hard moon aspects to other personal planets or the ascendant. Pluto or Moon in the 1st house, personal planets in the 8th or 4th house. I think these are a few aspects placements of someone that might tend to hold a grudge.

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posted July 20, 2015 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 20, 2015 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Abc333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo Moons... We forgive but we most certainly never forget.

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posted July 20, 2015 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chief1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in hard aspect to mars. Neptune trine mars = 0 ability to hold grudges. Imagine physically fighting someone and losing your anger against them midway lol.

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posted July 20, 2015 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chief1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also mars and pluto in hard aspect

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posted July 20, 2015 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 20, 2015 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for erickaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I am a Scorpio Sun and boy can I hold a grudge. It is pathetic really. But I can't help it.

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posted July 20, 2015 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lightbones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People with predominantly fixed signs in their charts.

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I have Sun and Mars in Cap. My moon is in Taurus. I can hold a grudge for a very long time
Depending on the person though... I can still be around you even if I have that grudge. I'll just hold it nicely in my pocket until the right moment arises.

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posted July 20, 2015 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moon in scorpio
moon in aspect to pluto

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posted July 20, 2015 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goddessofthemoon:
I have Sun and Mars in Cap. My moon is in Taurus. I can hold a grudge for a very long time
Depending on the person though... I can still be around you even if I have that grudge. I'll just hold it nicely in my pocket until the right moment arises.

HAHAHA! I do the same! I'm not sure what in my chart. I guess maybe the Virgo.

A coworker and I used to throw these plastic parts at each other. He would keep going when I had serious work to do which made me very angry. I told him again and again to stop, I'm busy. He didn't though.
So one day he came over and was standing next to me. I took one and point blank, "BAM!" Right in the face. Oh boy was he mad. He started yelling at me and calling me names.
I'm just like, "Well. I told you to quit and you didn't. So there ya go."

That was the end of that forever. LOL

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posted July 20, 2015 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Pluto hard aspects to personal planets or the ascendant or hard moon aspects to other personal planets or the ascendant. Pluto or Moon in the 1st house, personal planets in the 8th or 4th house. I think these are a few aspects placements of someone that might tend to hold a grudge.

Do you mean pluto square sun play the role too? It's in fixed sign though.

I have Aries moon conjunct jupiter in 4th house.

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posted July 20, 2015 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont hold grudges. We good. You may never hear from me again. But we good.
(Mars- Saturn square).

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posted July 20, 2015 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I dont hold grudges. We good. You may never hear from me again. But we good.
(Mars- Saturn square).

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posted July 20, 2015 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Pluto hard aspects to personal planets or the ascendant or hard moon aspects to other personal planets or the ascendant. Pluto or Moon in the 1st house, personal planets in the 8th or 4th house. I think these are a few aspects placements of someone that might tend to hold a grudge.

I have the moon and pluto in the 1st. Jupiter in the 4th, and sun, mercury, and mars in the 8th.

Im still holding grudges from Kindergarten.

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quote:
Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Do you mean pluto square sun play the role too? It's in fixed sign though.

I have Aries moon conjunct jupiter in 4th house.


Yes that can definitely play a role.

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posted July 20, 2015 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gemini30:
I have the moon and pluto in the 1st. Jupiter in the 4th, and sun, mercury, and mars in the 8th.

Im still holding grudges from Kindergarten.


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posted July 21, 2015 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chief1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ami

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posted July 21, 2015 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Abc333:
Virgo Moons... We forgive but we most certainly never forget.


My SO is a Virgo Moon and this is totally true for him.

I'm the grudge holder, though. I don't forgive or forget. It's not something I'm exactly proud of, but I really just can't let it go when someone wrongs me.

10th house Taurus Moon
Aspects made:
Sextile Pisces Sun/Merc
Quincunx Sag Mars/Uranus

I also think Mercury can have something to do with it, being the planet of the mind.

Mine is combust and square Mars/Uranus. I think the combust makes me perceive things as more personal than they are meant to be and I take them to heart that way. And if it's personal, it must have been done purposely (just the way my mind works) and why in the WORLD would I forgive someone who purposely hurt me? That makes no sense.

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posted July 21, 2015 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Taurus and the 2nd house? Taurus can be VERY past oriented at times.

Personally, I don't really think Pluto would be one of the major planets in these regards.. Except for maybe Pluto-Moon aspects. After all, Pluto is the major planet of the understanding and acceptance of impermanence.. At least, at its higher frequency. However, I guess at its lower manifestation, Pluto can manifest the exact opposite way. Holding onto everything it can, in fear of its own impermanence (hence, why I think Pluto is associated with Possessiveness at times..) however, I feel that polarity relates quite a bit with Taurus too. Pluto, once it understands and accepts its impermanence is then able to overcome not only its attachment to physical things, but also to the ego. So.. To truly understand the impermanence of the ego is to also lose a certain amount of attachment to it. (I have more I want to say in these regards, but I'm not quite sure how to word it..)

What about Saturn?

I think the Moon could play a role though, definitely.

Of course, these are just my thoughts though.

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posted July 21, 2015 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoaringLeaves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by erickaf:
Well I am a Scorpio Sun and boy can I hold a grudge. It is pathetic really. But I can't help it.

Another vote here for Scorpio Suns. The worst part is that they are much more sensitive to critics than your next person, so there are good chances they might get upset for no reason at all.

I guess, Scorpio ASC too. My ASC is in Scorpio and sometimes I am tempted to maintain the animosity. Still I have an Aquarius Sun to balance, so I always end up forgiving everyone.

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posted July 21, 2015 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer moon has been the worst in my experience.

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posted July 21, 2015 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:

Good point, about Taurus.

IME, Cancer (especially Moons, but Suns too) and Taurus placements are pretty good at holding grudges.
Saturnians as well.

Pisces energy is the least likely to hold grudges, so if there's some strong Pisces/Neptune energy along with what I mentioned above, the effects may be mitigated (though IME easy aspects to Neptune and Pisces placements are much better at this than afflicted Neptune/Pisces energy, which can easily fall into "poor me" syndrome and "everyone is so bad to me" mentality).

Yes, I've also seen many Scorpio influenced people hold grudges but I don't think it's necessarily always as pronounced as is often claimed.

I'd agree with Moon/Pluto though, but it can very often be unconscious.

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posted April 10, 2016 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Scorpio
Mars in the 8th house
Mars - Pluto aspects

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