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Enneline
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posted August 09, 2015 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What effects would a highly aspected asc have?

Would the appearance rather cause confusion (soo many ways to express yourself) or charisma (appearances strongly aspected?

for example I have uranus trine, pluto square, neptune inconj, venus (widely) conjunct and the sun conj the ascendant and I am wondering if i am just what i am what you see (sun conj asc) or if i arouse confusion (pluto, venus and above all Neptune) about who i am?

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posted August 09, 2015 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The person can be pretty much everything rolled in one. A multi-faceted person, perhaps. Someone with lots of layers, lots of different parts to their personality make-up. But well idk, isn't the same thing can be said about most people.

In my experience, I can be different around different people. Depends on who they are, what they want and the nature of our interactions. Most of the time they only experience a few sides of me. It's natural for me to be this way, although sometimes I choose not to be. Makes it hard and confusing for people who want to know all of me.

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posted August 09, 2015 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive AC conj Sun exactly in Leo trine MC in aries sextile moon in gemini....I feel me so visible everywhere.... My children say all the time that Im so carismatik.. I think I have to believe my adult children

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posted August 09, 2015 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars, Saturn, and Pluto conj. Asc in Libra.

I can sometimes appear incoherent, yes

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posted August 09, 2015 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just think of yourself as an onion!

Multiple layers of complexity in which you can act on when needed

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posted August 09, 2015 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Virgo ASC at 12
*Sun/MC square ASC(93)
*Mercury trine ASC(118)
*Venus sesquiquadrate ASC(132)
*Mars quindecile ASC(162)
*Jupiter/Chiron sextile ASC(60/58)
*Neptune/Uranus loosely trine ASC(122/116)
*Pluto sextile ASC(62)

Most people cannot guess my ASC at first try and I have a lot of features combined so I don't look like a typical Virgo ASC. I can morph into different people I'll admit, but it's not false in any way, but more of an extension of myself(hard to explain). It fits perfect with my Gemini Sun, because I fit in with all types of people and I come across as so many things. Only flaw for this is that people say I'm somewhat difficult to read, or that I'm hiding behind myself? Whatever that means

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posted August 09, 2015 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
What effects would a highly aspected asc have?

Would the appearance rather cause confusion (soo many ways to express yourself) or charisma (appearances strongly aspected?

for example I have uranus trine, pluto square, neptune inconj, venus (widely) conjunct and the sun conj the ascendant and I am wondering if i am just what i am what you see (sun conj asc) or if i arouse confusion (pluto, venus and above all Neptune) about who i am?


Interesting question! I have a similar situation with my AC libra@7.05.....
Pluto conjunct 3 degree
Venus conjunct 11.5 degree
Jupiter opposed 7 degree
Neptune sextile 3 degree
Sun sextile 2.5 degree
Merc sextile 3.5 degree
Saturn sextile 4 degree
Uranus semi-sextile 2 degree

I'd always thought it gave you a lot of diversity and a well integrated way of looking at life and yourself.

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posted August 09, 2015 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I have Mars, Saturn, and Pluto conj. Asc in Libra.

I can sometimes appear incoherent, yes


You are actually one of the clearest and most honest people I've ever read.

Which is why I have to believe you, if you say that sometimes you are incoherent.

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PaulMcFly
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posted August 10, 2015 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaulMcFly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun trine AC in tight orb. (0'04)
Scorp ascendant with pisces sun in 4th house. I'm really shy but somehow still draw people in lol not gonna complain!

Sun is also square pluto which is in 1st.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 10, 2015 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strange, I see it the other way around, I disagree with this interpretation. It means your planets are visible (at least for friends and people who interact with you on a personal level) and you can't hide who you are UNLESS those planets are Pluto and Saturn and Neptune (or Lilith and similar asteroids). They will act like a screen, but everyone will see them, of course, everyone will perceive Pluto and Saturn there. Neptune is the only one creating smoke screens; it makes someone appear glamorous, fascinating, charismatic, sometimes everyone's dream, many people think Neptune on ASC is their own personal dream, while the person can actually be quite different than this dream. Perfect aspect for actors and performers.

Everything happening on the ASC is visible and has an Aries vibe: direct, upfront, childlike manner of expressing that planet. Impossible to hide. Other aspects bring those planets on ASC, but obviously conjunctions are the most visible. People with planets conj ASC can't hide who they are, and what you see is what you get. Whatever planet is there is totally visible to other people. The more planets there, the more visible we are as a whole.

In your case, Enneline, your friends/people meeting you face to face, strangers or not, they all can see what you feel and what you like and how your personality is.

Another interesting thing with planets on ASC: other people can see them better than we do or think.

Just to give an example: for some reason, I have many friends with Mars conj ASC, Mars in the 1st. They assert themselves more aggressively than other people; everyone perceives them as being more aggressive than they perceive themselves.

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posted August 10, 2015 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pallas conj ASC, Lilith in the 1st. Uranus sq ASC (which makes for changing appearance often and experimenting with it); Sun trine ASC, MC sextile ASC and Saturn conj DSC.

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posted August 10, 2015 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shoot! It confuses ME.
I often have no idea how others really perceive me unless it's extreme, and therefore clear.
I can feel many other things about them. It's like a block when it comes to knowing how they perceive me though.
Pluto conjunct 1st
Mars conjunct 12

Moon, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune aspect with Uranus minor aspect.

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meissieri
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posted August 10, 2015 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got so many I have no idea which ones people see and which ones they don't.

Probably some of the most here.

Saturn square ASC
Neptune square ASC
Jupiter square ASC
Uranus square ASC
Chiron square ASC
Moon square ASC
(In care you haven't noticed, I have a bunch of Cap and Cancer planets bang on my IC and MC making like a billion crosses with my ASC & DSC. The joy of being born with a Libra ASC! >_> )
BML conjunct ASC
Venus contraparallel ASC exact (so parallel DSC)

Plus for minors (all exact, so I find them worth mentioning):
Mars semi-sextile ASC (draco Mars is conjunct my natal ASC, hmm...)
Sun semi-square ASC
Pluto decile ASC (found out by accident, but I'm glad for one more positive aspect, even if minor... and Pluto)
Does Part of Fortune count? It's biquintile my ASC.

Pfff. Even counting just the planets and lights, I have 9/10. Mercury's the only one that doesn't aspect it, but it disposits my chart ruler.

I see some of them very clearly in my appearance, especially Pluto, minor aspect as it may be. The Moon and Neptune as well.

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Enneline
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posted August 13, 2015 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Strange, I see it the other way around, I disagree with this interpretation. It means your planets are visible (at least for friends and people who interact with you on a personal level) and you can't hide who you are UNLESS those planets are Pluto and Saturn and Neptune (or Lilith and similar asteroids). They will act like a screen, but everyone will see them, of course, everyone will perceive Pluto and Saturn there. Neptune is the only one creating smoke screens; it makes someone appear glamorous, fascinating, charismatic, sometimes everyone's dream, many people think Neptune on ASC is their own personal dream, while the person can actually be quite different than this dream. Perfect aspect for actors and performers.

Everything happening on the ASC is visible and has an Aries vibe: direct, upfront, childlike manner of expressing that planet. Impossible to hide. Other aspects bring those planets on ASC, but obviously conjunctions are the most visible. People with planets conj ASC can't hide who they are, and what you see is what you get. Whatever planet is there is totally visible to other people. The more planets there, the more visible we are as a whole.

In your case, Enneline, your friends/people meeting you face to face, strangers or not, they all can see what you feel and what you like and how your personality is.

Another interesting thing with planets on ASC: other people can see them better than we do or think.

Just to give an example: for some reason, I have many friends with Mars conj ASC, Mars in the 1st. They assert themselves more aggressively than other people; everyone perceives them as being more aggressive than they perceive themselves.


yes, basically in my case: what you see is what you get (sun conj asc).

and almost ALL people I meet say things like that "you are like that and like that and you feel that way". Really. Some are like arrogantly convinced that they know me to my core but to be honest: 90% of all assumptions are not true. This must be my neptune inconj asc

But I agree with the mirror stuff. Whenever i see something remarkable in a person i meet, i would ask myself if this is a mirror for me.

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NYCdodger
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posted August 13, 2015 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not Just conjunct but also opposition. Descendant represents the energy you attract so if the Sun is there you can feel its influence from others and they can DIRECTLY see it in you.

Sun on the ASC or DSC makes great leaders

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posted August 16, 2015 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread.

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