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Topic: Owning Tough and terrible aspects natal
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cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 12:43 AM
What is one (you can list more if you'd like) aspect in your natal chart that you consider your most difficult one to deal with and what have you done to own it and work with it in your life? IP: Logged |
Julz87 Knowflake Posts: 1129 From: Over the Rainbow Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 18, 2015 01:06 AM
Mars Square Saturn, its like one moment I'm going to charge head on lets do this! but then there's like a block something happens some feeling over takes me, dislike this aspect. I tend to stick to something even after I know its not going to fly/work/succeed its like not knowing when to give up or just let it go, so I'm working on letting things go. No I haven't owned it yet. IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 151 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted August 18, 2015 01:24 AM
Venus Square SaturnThis is really hard for me to admit. No matter how attractive others perceive me, I will always see something wrong. There has never been a time in my life when I was completely 100% comfortable in the skin I'm in. It's always like this: "After braces straighten my teeth out" or "Once I lose the last 5 pounds". When I see people radiate unwavering confidence (no matter what they look like) I absolutely love that! Also when I was going through my dating years, I NEVER knew when a guy liked me. They'd tell me, and I'd be shocked. Every single time. To this day, I still have old friends tell me: "Oh I had such a big crush on you" and I think to myself I really wish I had known! So to manage this square, I've been trying to work on inner beauty, my theory being that it will manifest outward, but so far it's only helped slightly. If anyone has ever gotten past an aspect like this, I'd love to know how they did it. IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 01:50 AM
Thank you for your response! I didn't know much about it in a natal chart, just in the synastry chart. Have there been any projects or jobs that you have stuck with and felt rewarded for it because you didn't give up? IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 01:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by bananaz: Venus Square SaturnThis is really hard for me to admit. No matter how attractive others perceive me, I will always see something wrong. There has never been a time in my life when I was completely 100% comfortable in the skin I'm in. It's always like this: "After braces straighten my teeth out" or "Once I lose the last 5 pounds". When I see people radiate unwavering confidence (no matter what they look like) I absolutely love that! Also when I was going through my dating years, I NEVER knew when a guy liked me. They'd tell me, and I'd be shocked. Every single time. To this day, I still have old friends tell me: "Oh I had such a big crush on you" and I think to myself I really wish I had known! So to manage this square, I've been trying to work on inner beauty, my theory being that it will manifest outward, but so far it's only helped slightly. If anyone has ever gotten past an aspect like this, I'd love to know how they did it.
Thank you so much for sharing that! It seems that with aspects people find difficulty dealing with mostly involve Saturn and/or Chiron. I often wonder if those natal aspects that involve Saturn, if you've owned them and learn the lessons Saturn is trying to teach you, if there is a huge reward at the "end". Saturn is known for his tough lessons but amazing rewards. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 4939 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 18, 2015 01:57 AM
You don't own them you transcend them but gain wisdom from their lesson.IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 02:03 AM
I never posted my hard aspect. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 5973 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted August 18, 2015 02:03 AM
Adding to the Saturn squares here... Mine is - Jupiter (Pisces) square Saturn (Sagittarius)! It's tough because you spiral from being all play, no work - to being all work, no play. I've always tried to be more balanced and more organised and stick to my plans. I'd say I'm almost on top of this square.. now that my Saturn return is coming up, but I still have some things to deal with. IP: Logged |
RoseLily Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 18, 2015 02:06 AM
libra Moon square gemini Sun Gosh this one is a pain I mean, I know I have a very very strong intuition. And it's awesome, really, I love it. But my sun decide to poke it's shiny little head and disagree with everything: "yeah but... are you really sure? I mean, really really sure? This feeling you have, is it you wishing, or is it really your intuition working? Why do you want to go there, I think you should go over there, that's logical." then my moon is like : " Yes, but I feel like this way is better... I mean I don't just want it, yes I do but... ""USH, ush, just go under this pillow right now and die quietly, let's do this the reasonable, logical way, alright? THINK for once, you can't just feel things, you got to THINK. Why would this happen anyway? It's not logical, it can't happen." And usually my sun is wrong and my moon is right and I mess up something. IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 02:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: You don't own them you transcend them but gain wisdom from their lesson.
I use the word "own" to mean acknowledging them and accepting them as a part of oneself first, in order to move beyond them.
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cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 02:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Adding to the Saturn squares here... Mine is - Jupiter (Pisces) square Saturn (Sagittarius)! It's tough because you spiral from being all play, no work - to being all work, no play. I've always tried to be more balanced and more organised and stick to my plans. I'd say I'm almost on top of this square.. now that my Saturn return is coming up, but I still have some things to deal with.
Thank you for sharing that with us. Do you mind if I ask, when or what is it that makes you realize you have too much of one thing? Do you like pass out at the 16th birthday party youve attended in one week or do you fall asleep with piles of papers on your bed?
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cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 02:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by RoseLily: libra Moon square gemini Sun Gosh this one is a pain I mean, I know I have a very very strong intuition. And it's awesome, really, I love it. But my sun decide to poke it's shiny little head and disagree with everything: "yeah but... are you really sure? I mean, really really sure? This feeling you have, is it you wishing, or is it really your intuition working? Why do you want to go there, I think you should go over there, that's logical." then my moon is like : " Yes, but I feel like this way is better... I mean I don't just want it, yes I do but... ""USH, ush, just go under this pillow right now and die quietly, let's do this the reasonable, logical way, alright? THINK for once, you can't just feel things, you got to THINK. Why would this happen anyway? It's not logical, it can't happen." And usually my sun is wrong and my moon is right and I mess up something.
Thank you, I was just reading up on this aspect in the natal chart. I was just noticing the signs and since they were both air signs, I thought they would get along a lot better. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 5973 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted August 18, 2015 02:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by cchampliss2: Thank you for sharing that with us. Do you mind if I ask, when or what is it that makes you realize you have too much of one thing? Do you like pass out at the 16th birthday party youve attended in one week or do you fall asleep with piles of papers on your bed?
LOL ^ That's a funny question
It's more like.. it's difficult to integrate both things (fun things & career/work related matters) into your life, and be happy at the end of the day. In the party example... A Jupiter/Saturn trine person would get some work done before the party... then attend the party... then get some more work done afterwards... and they would happily show up Monday at work (having partied with their friends - and having also met their deadlines): This is Jupiter/Saturn trine, Monday morning: A Jupiter/Saturn square person would put the work off again and again - then go party... then realise they underestimated the amount of work they had to get done in the first place - then "cram" like crazy and work through the night to finish things last minute. When they show up Monday at work, everything will be finished. It might even be better quality work than the Jupiter/Saturn trine - simply because the square makes you *focus* so intensely. But this "style" of doing things is highly stressful... and unhealthy.
This is Jupiter/Saturn square, Monday morning IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 03:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: LOL ^ That's a funny question It's more like.. it's difficult to integrate both things (fun things & career/work related matters) into your life, and be happy at the end of the day. In the party example... A Jupiter/Saturn trine person would get some work done before the party... then attend the party... then get some more work done afterwards... and they would happily show up Monday at work (having partied with their friends - and having also met their deadlines): This is Jupiter/Saturn trine, Monday morning: A Jupiter/Saturn square person would put the work off again and again - then go party... then realise they underestimated the amount of work they had to get done in the first place - then "cram" like crazy and work through the night to finish things last minute. When they show up Monday at work, everything will be finished. It might even be better quality work than the Jupiter/Saturn trine - simply because the square makes you *focus* so intensely. But this "style" of doing things is highly stressful... and unhealthy.
This is Jupiter/Saturn square, Monday morning
That Amy Poeler gif is hilarious! Thank you so much for sharing that and also for explaining how that square plays out for you. I have the conjunction in my chart and to be honest, I've never paid attention to it before. I will have to look into that now.
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Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 315 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted August 18, 2015 05:34 AM
I would say the moon square Pluto in my chart because I feel like sometimes it can make me come across really intense or aloof. I think I can get so intense that I just become aloof to things..IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 670 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted August 18, 2015 05:59 AM
i would call them "challenging" as opposed to "tough and terrible" There is a lesson in each and every aspect/placement. this is what colours our lives and makes them rich and rewarding each time we are able to gain something from their lessons.mine is moon/mars/saturn conjunction and pluto square jupiter. but im learning to love them. IP: Logged |
Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 285 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 07:12 AM
Gosh, I feel like my chart is full of toughies!Moon square Pluto Venus conjunct Saturn Mercury Conjunct Uranus Venus square Neptune I would say the Venus square Neptune and conjunct Saturn. I am working on transcending them, but don't really know how IP: Logged |
RoseLily Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 18, 2015 11:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by cchampliss2: Thank you, I was just reading up on this aspect in the natal chart. I was just noticing the signs and since they were both air signs, I thought they would get along a lot better.
Well they are trined by sign, but my moon is on the cusp of libra (0'33) from virgo, so it's a stretched square. What makes it so difficult is that lots of flowing placement I have with my moon are in hard aspect with my sun. Moon sextile pluto and trine neptune while my sun is quincunx both for example. The relief I could feel for having those two trine by sign is lowered because of this easy/harsh aspects mix between the two IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 11:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: i would call them "challenging" as opposed to "tough and terrible" There is a lesson in each and every aspect/placement. this is what colours our lives and makes them rich and rewarding each time we are able to gain something from their lessons.mine is moon/mars/saturn conjunction and pluto square jupiter. but im learning to love them.
I can agree. I think I used "tough and terrible" mainly for aliteration effect. Also, I don't know much about pluto square jupiter. I'm going to look that up. IP: Logged |
PaulMcFly Knowflake Posts: 50 From: Olive branch, MS USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted August 18, 2015 12:13 PM
JUPITER SQUARE SATURN!!! ITS SO ANNOYING. AND I HAVE A TIGHT ORB Sun square pluto can be annoying but I've worked around it IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1325 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 18, 2015 02:15 PM
Rx mars in cancer opp Neptune, Uranus and square Libra asc.Saturn conjunct Venus in 4th Mercury square Neptune and Uranus Chiron in 10th So many bad ones IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 02:24 PM
This thread is just giving Saturn a bad name IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 02:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by NeptunianSag: Rx mars in cancer opp Neptune, Uranus and square Libra asc.Saturn conjunct Venus in 4th Mercury square Neptune and Uranus Chiron in 10th So many bad ones
I have a friend who has her Chiron in the 10th house and she struggles with it as well. How about you start a thread on the positive aspects in charts that we can be most thankful for having?
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cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 02:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by RoseLily: Well they are trined by sign, but my moon is on the cusp of libra (0'33) from virgo, so it's a stretched square. What makes it so difficult is that lots of flowing placement I have with my moon are in hard aspect with my sun. Moon sextile pluto and trine neptune while my sun is quincunx both for example. The relief I could feel for having those two trine by sign is lowered because of this easy/harsh aspects mix between the two
Thank you so much for that. I didn't know that squares could work in compatible signs. (I'm still learning). I thought that the aspect would be an easy one, but that it would be too wide to make a difference. IP: Logged |
PaulMcFly Knowflake Posts: 50 From: Olive branch, MS USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted August 18, 2015 03:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by cchampliss2: This thread is just giving Saturn a bad name
Saturn sucks..with a passion lmao
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