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posted August 19, 2015 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

On my Lilith conjunct MC thread you asked for my Natal chart so here it is :-)

You can see both Liliths right next to the midheaven

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posted August 19, 2015 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The MC is cut off here but do you have 2 questions that are foremost for you, my Friend and I will try to help.

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posted August 19, 2015 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wrong. I see the MC.

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posted August 19, 2015 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes its hard to see on Astro sometimes. But the True and Mean Lilith are smack-dab on the MC. I posted some other asteroids as well.

Could this be one of the main reasons why it has been hard for me to fit in with society? Even though my intentions were good people (some people) would still see me as an enemy. I used to feel guilty about this when I was younger, but I realized it is detrimental. I either have friends who are similar in mind, or people who are quick to judge me because I intimidate them even when I see the good in everyone.

Someone told me that lilith in Sag attracts esoteric friends and i agree with this. My closest friends are all very spiritual (whatever that means) and we look up to each other

The second question is, being that this is the tightest conjunction in my entire chart (and at the highest point of my chart) what theme would it play in my life and what would it be directing me to do? I know we all have certain aspects for a reason so what/why do you believe this energy was given to me?

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posted August 19, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just use the asteroid Lilith. I never plumbed the depth of all the Liliths lol

I don't see Lilith as causing you the pain you talk about.

Lilith is a positive energy, a blessing.

Let me see what might be causing the sense you don't fit in.

Is that you main kind of question?

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posted August 19, 2015 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 29th degree is the frozen degree, so your Lilith may feel frozen, as if she is not free to be your gloriously, sexy, amazing self. That may be some part of your struggle but not all of it or most of it imo

I will look at your chart during the day.

I have a Gemini stellium. I do 4 things at once

Right now, I am doing your chart, doing a professional chart, juicing, making Indian food and practicing my guitar

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posted August 19, 2015 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have what I call" the child looking out the window at all the children playing and wanting to join so badly but are afraid you will not be part of the group--Saturn in the 12th.

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posted August 19, 2015 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have an Unaspected Venus like I do?

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posted August 19, 2015 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But what about the True Lilith at 0 degrees? I know the mean is 29 degrees, but the true is at 0 degrees in Sag. I heard both mean and true were equally important. If Mean lilith is frozen, how is the True lilith playing out being that it is in its rawest degree?
And would you say that this is the most transparent aspect in my chart being that its sandwiching and angle?

No, i don't have an unspected Venus, its actually apart of a stellium...

And I know how busy you are, i appreciate everything lol :-)

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posted August 19, 2015 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only use the asteroid Lilith, so can't comment on the other Liliths really.

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posted August 19, 2015 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, I think you are fixated/focused on it too much. I don't see it as a highlighted issue. I see other things that are much more pivotal to you, such as the Saturn and some other things I will discuss, if you want.

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posted August 19, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I only use the asteroid Lilith, so can't comment on the other Liliths really.


Oh ok I see. Is there a reason why? And whats is your Gem stellium like? What planets are there

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posted August 19, 2015 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Honestly, I think you are fixated/focused on it too much. I don't see it as a highlighted issue. I see other things that are much more pivotal to you, such as the Saturn and some other things I will discuss, if you want.


Ok, sure. but can you see or tell which aspect is highlighted the most? I don't really see lilith as an issue and i don't interpret the same way others do. I actually like it. Just wanted to know if it is something that really stands out in my natal chart

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posted August 19, 2015 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried to study the other Liliths and got confused lol

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posted August 19, 2015 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to spend a whole week on a chart to really see which Themes pull a person. So, short of that, I think your 12th house planets are key for you to explore. I have articles on them. They cannot be ignore if you want to feel whole imo

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posted August 19, 2015 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your NN conj your ASC may give you a kind of different/strange way to find your life purpose. It is very CLOSE to you, unlike many other people in which their purpose is more detached.

What I mean is that your life purpose is something which is part of your practical life. It is something that is very familiar, but yet you struggle with it because the NN is a struggle.

Let me see if I can give a practical example.

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posted August 19, 2015 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are an Aqua ASC conj the NN. Your SN is Leo which conjuncts the Sun and is in the 7th.

You are comfortable with partnership, YET the Sun position may propel you to give yourself away to another person and feel a loss of identity.

Hence, you desire a relationship and you are comfortable as a partner. You are comfortable with showing who you are and being confident while you are in a relationship BUT you also may give away your power.

This whole dynamic may be a struggle and it may be wordless to you UNTIL the chart can make it known for you.

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posted August 19, 2015 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol you kinda make sense. I would have to say the whole relationship thing isn't true. I've never really cared for them which makes me question what reasons I have for my Sun to be in my 7th. I think its there because It wants me to empower others in some kind of way. But I never "gave" away my power or felt the need to. All my life I've been independent and i enjoy being a loner. Not lonely, but a loner. I've noticed many Sun in the 7th house people were inspirational to others.

My ASC conj NN, 12th house planets, and Liliths Conj MC I would say relates to me ALOT. For example........

I see the world in a very Aquarian way right off the bat. My personality is EXACTLY like a Sag, but in a very intense way. Maybe this is because of it being 0 degrees but anything about a Sag or a Gem you can think of i can guarantee I fit those traits. I speak on Lilith a lot because I notice how close it is to this axis and how for some reason I relate to its interpretations. My mother told me that i am a Prophet and as I got older i became more hesitant in speaking the truth, because i knew a lot of people were too sensitive or maybe they just wouldn't understand. This is when my love for writing, art and music cam from as well as my love for martial arts. A lot of my beliefs I keep to myself and share with a few friends.

My 12th house planets on the other hand is something i "absorb". But because they are generational planets its something I pick up from my social environment and events. Saturn in the 12th house is something that I pretty much have dealt with from the outside and I don't see Saturn as much as a struggle as everyone else does. I don't know why though. Maybe its Neptune and Uranus that is making me see things differently.

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posted August 19, 2015 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have to spend a whole week on a chart to really see which Themes pull a person. So, short of that, I think your 12th house planets are key for you to explore. I have articles on them. They cannot be ignore if you want to feel whole imo


I appreciate it! :-D

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posted August 19, 2015 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your 12th house planets are hard/ a struggle. The 12th house makes everything go inward, generational or not. The energies of the planets go inward and that makes for a struggle

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posted August 19, 2015 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Your 12th house planets are hard/ a struggle. The 12th house makes everything go inward, generational or not. The energies of the planets go inward and that makes for a struggle


Ok, last thing, could you determine soul evolution by looking at a chart? By looking at mine could you see an old or young soul?

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posted August 19, 2015 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Born Again Bible believer. I believe one life to a customer

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posted August 19, 2015 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol gotcha

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posted August 19, 2015 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea

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posted August 19, 2015 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yea


Can you give at least your own interpretation on what having Neptune and Uranus in the 12th house is like?

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