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Topic: Unaspected planet
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Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 1025 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 22, 2015 03:45 PM
What does it mean when a planet is unaspected?And - I ran into unaspected chiron in the sixth house. What does that mean? Thanks! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 22, 2015 04:22 PM
No major aspects. Chiron does not count TOWARD aother Unaspected planets. However, if Chiron were Unaspected, that would count. Minor aspects don't count, nor do Angles(ASC, MC etc)------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 22, 2015 04:25 PM
If a Chiron is Unaspected, that would mean that the person would have the journey of learning about pain. It would be a solitary journey, in which she would have to learn her own lessons in her own unique way. If she did follow this path, she would be a gem and a healer to others. In turn, she would heal, a great deal, as well.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 316 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 22, 2015 04:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: No major aspects. Chiron does not count TOWARD aother Unaspected planets. However, if Chiron were Unaspected, that would count. Minor aspects don't count, nor do Angles(ASC, MC etc)
So by major you mean square, trine, sextile, and conjunction?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 22, 2015 04:44 PM
Yes. Minor is semi sextile etc. Quincunx does not count toward Unaspected, either------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 316 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 22, 2015 05:21 PM
My Sun is unaspected. What does that mean? IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 969 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted August 22, 2015 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ayelet: What does it mean when a planet is unaspected?And - I ran into unaspected chiron in the sixth house. What does that mean? Thanks!
Absolutely nothing! 1.) Chiron is not a planet. 2.) The 'unaspected' planet hypothesis is largely bunk: (a) because it says only major aspects count; (b) because most of the time the planet isn't actually 'unaspected' and will usually have aspects in declination; (c) it is a pop astrology notion that has actually been disavowed by one of the proponents. ------------------
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 22, 2015 06:32 PM
In my experience, Unaspected Planets are a HUGE factor in charts.It is a defining factor, actually, imo I have an Unaspected Venus and see it work in my own chart The Unaspected Sun was made to shine. He was made to be a superstar! I do not want to argue with anyone. That is my opinion and my experience. Each person can make up his own mind lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 1025 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 22, 2015 07:54 PM
Thank you Ami Anne, I will tell her! IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 969 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted August 22, 2015 09:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: In my experience, Unaspected Planets are a HUGE factor in charts.It is a defining factor, actually, imo I have an Unaspected Venus and see it work in my own chart The Unaspected Sun was made to shine. He was made to be a superstar! I do not want to argue with anyone. That is my opinion and my experience. Each person can make up his own mind lol
Ami, you just illustrated my point perfectly by bring up your supposedly unaspected Venus. Your Venus [20N55] is Parallel your Jupiter [20N20] and your Uranus [21N26]. These Parallel & Contra-parallel aspects of declination are major aspects. Relationships between planets are what create the energy dynamics, not a 'lack' of them.
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Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 1025 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2015 05:20 AM
So according to this, there is no planet void of aspects?I've got a sun whose only aspects are semisquare to saturn and conjunction by the orb of 10 degrees to venus. I don't recall how to check the parralels, but I once checked and there were none. How do you check declination and what is it? And how would you describe Chiron? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2015 08:01 AM
Parallels are another layer and that layer matters but it does not DO AWAY with Voids/Unaspected Planets imo.They are both factors and one does not obviate the other. They affect each other, as do all things in the chart. They influence each other, as do all things in the chart. However, parallels do not obviate Voids/Unaspected Planets imo ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2015 08:03 AM
The LACK of things in the chart is it's OWN energy, Kannon.The LACK of Earth planets is it's own energy. The Lack of major Aspects to Venus is it's own energy. My Lack of oppositions is it's own energy. Hence, Voids are Lacks of Energy and in that, they are powerful. ANYHOO, I don't want to argue. People can choose what they believe. Take care, Kannon  ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 969 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted August 25, 2015 09:45 PM
Just added: Unaspected planet - a misnomerI go into great detail, complete with specific examples. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Complete Rising Sign Descriptions IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 7421 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 25, 2015 10:08 PM
Kannon, do you have an aspected planet?IP: Logged |
Comatoes Knowflake Posts: 372 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted August 25, 2015 10:41 PM
Yes, I always wondered about that, I feel my minor aspects, sometimes more than my major especially the 1 degree orb ones, and also applying aspects also make a difference.I also don't understand why minor aspects are blowed off like they don't matter in chart delineation by astrologers, maybe to keep things more simple. But strong minor aspects should be noted. I also think more astrologers should start using the Novile and Septile. Something I should ponder... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 25, 2015 11:39 PM
IMO, Gabby, you are very much an Unaspected Moon but I believe in the value of Unaspected planets and see them as very important.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 7421 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 25, 2015 11:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: IMO, Gabby, you are very much an Unaspected Moon but I believe in the value of Unaspected planets and see them as very important.
I do to Ami!! I don't think someone who does not have an unaspected planet could comprehend what it feels like...it's not connected to the rest of you, plain and simple! It stands alone as a strength but also a weakness in the it's not integrated. It's tough but once you get it and understand how to use it, it's beautiful. IP: Logged |
Kiimberly Newflake Posts: 7 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted August 25, 2015 11:55 PM
I know unaspected planets are controversial, but using only the loosest definition, my Mercury is unaspected and I relate very strongly to the concept. But i have a 1 degree quincunx with Mars that often feels strong. Mercury in my third house I think makes me feel like communication and casual relationships are a foreign concept. My speech is so erratic and impulsive, once I get started I never shut up, to the point of frequent stuttering and tripping over my words. I like the idea of an "unaspected" planet being a gift you must earn, if only because I'd like to know that I can conquer my issues. your mileage may vary.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 26, 2015 12:04 AM
YES GabbyBeautifully said! My Unaspected venus is a pure gift. It helped me survive my childhood, I feel. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 26, 2015 12:05 AM
Welcome KimberlyI love Unaspected Mercuries. They are rare and very cool! The quincunx doesn't count toward Unaspected. Can you describe how you feel the Unaspected Mercury? ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Kiimberly Newflake Posts: 7 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted August 26, 2015 12:49 AM
Sag Mercury 3H. I find it to be a hyperactive, over emotional and impulsive mind. Coupled with some other aspects (fourth house cap stellium, Scorpio moon) this usually makes me feel pulled in all different directions and unable to find stability (ESPECIALLY in friend and community relationships) despite deeply aching for it, unable to focus on anything long enough to really to achieve enough, despite usually finding new endeavors effortless. I am very easily bored. I have picked up and moved impulsively at least four times in my life. But I'm also wildly creative at my best, and find that I recognize real talent in others.I am slowly learning to embrace it and recognize my impulsivity, at least. IP: Logged |
Comatoes Knowflake Posts: 372 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted August 26, 2015 11:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kiimberly: I know unaspected planets are controversial, but using only the loosest definition, my Mercury is unaspected and I relate very strongly to the concept. But i have a 1 degree quincunx with Mars that often feels strong. Mercury in my third house I think makes me feel like communication and casual relationships are a foreign concept. My speech is so erratic and impulsive, once I get started I never shut up, to the point of frequent stuttering and tripping over my words. I like the idea of an "unaspected" planet being a gift you must earn, if only because I'd like to know that I can conquer my issues. your mileage may vary.
Astrology techniques varies person to person, astrologers are always learning and doing new things with charts. Only you can decide how you read your own chart, because only you feel it. Nobody should push their astrological views on anyone else, but it never hurts to discuss and suggest new ways of doing and seeing things in astrology. That is what makes astrology so intriguing. But I do think your Mercury is using the Mars aspect -- Mars accelerates the mind/Mercury exponentially when in aspect. The quincunx is a medical aspect. Stuttering is related to medical. Quincunx's are aspects of yourself that once you work through prove to make you have excessive talent in that area, real talent. Quincunx at 1 degree and under are so strong that they are very noticeable in the body/health and the outward characteristics of the aspect. Mercury aspected to Mars can create genius in various ways depending on chart. Albert Einstein had a Aries Mercury (similar to Mercury/Mars aspect) and communication was hard for him at first, but he grew into his own as he matured. He also had Mercury quincunx Uranus, and had a difficult time with people accepting his ideas, his life etc. I do think this was a source for his difficulties. But that quincunx with Uranus made him forever popular, unique, and timeless, but he had a bunch of quintiles, noviles, septiles too.... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64150 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 26, 2015 12:16 PM
KimberlyUnaspected Mercuries seem to have collections of pens, pencils, dictionaries etc. Do you? ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Kiimberly Newflake Posts: 7 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted August 26, 2015 12:53 PM
Thank you comatoes, that's all very interesting! The stutter isn't s "real" stutter so to speak, just a general overdrive that my mouth is a bit too tired for, haha. I used to speak quite well but now perhaps...underuse? But everything about Mars makes a lot of sense, I'm still relatively new to learning so I haven't quite delved into minor aspects, etc.And ami, yes. Not really dictionaries, but I collect writing implements and notebooks/stationary like nobody I know. Not even nice ones necessarily...I just always feel like I need a fresh start and I love the actual act of writing, pen to paper. IP: Logged |