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Topic: Aspects That Make For Natural Leader
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64089 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2015 04:48 PM
I would say 1.Cardinal ASC 2. Strong Pluto What else? ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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astra7 Knowflake Posts: 965 From: I live at 667 Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 23, 2015 04:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I would say 1.Cardinal ASC 2. Strong Pluto What else?
I have both but hardly a leader.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 12666 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 23, 2015 04:50 PM
An understanding of the feminine principle.Water that flows like water.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64089 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2015 04:55 PM
You have to have emotional intelligence, for sure. That would be water.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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astra7 Knowflake Posts: 965 From: I live at 667 Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 23, 2015 05:15 PM
I have water grand trine as well. lolIP: Logged |
Gemini30 Knowflake Posts: 282 From: Los Angeles Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 23, 2015 06:03 PM
Moon/Mars Sun/Mars Sun/Pluto Moon/PlutoThose aspects. Mixed with chart full of water and fire/air. IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 455 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted August 23, 2015 06:10 PM
A good Jupiter Saturn aspect?? MaybeIP: Logged |
Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 236 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted August 23, 2015 06:14 PM
I don't know how to say this in a modest way, but basically I'm a leader of leaders. I have an effortless influence over powerful individuals within my age group; they themselves have immense influence over others and are renowned for being the best in our area at what they do. I don't know what it is that attracts these people to me, but I've noticed I have met them when they are in their darkest hour and at a crucial point in their lives. A common theme/process in my association with these people is healing, guidance, and ultimately a restoration of genuine autonomy over their lives. I never expect anything in return (their companionship is enough, however, I do learn from them as well); I just know from experience what it is like to hit rock bottom, have no one to help you, and be faced with the decision to: a.) willingly succumb to the wounds and embark down a path of self-destruction or b.) gather the strength to get back on your feet and return better than ever I help them because I know what it is like to face life's greatest tribulation without any help; no one deserves to be alone during their darkest hour. Also, it would be a great loss if these specific individuals never realized their untapped potential. If I can serve as a catalyst for them to summon their own inner savior, then so be it -- I'll be a friend and an equal the entire way. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64089 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2015 06:19 PM
Your chart is kind of small FL. I can't enlarge it enough to look well BUT you have a really nice Yod. This is a strong sense of purpose!------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 236 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted August 23, 2015 06:43 PM
Thanks, Ami. Its not exactly a traditional Yod (two quincunxes and a sextile) -- Uranus and Pluto are sextile, yes, but Mars is at an exact Bi-Quintile to Pluto, and at an exact Tri-Septile to Uranus. Mars is also part of a Cardinal Grand Cross with Saturn, Chiron/North Node, and Jupiter. I suppose my chart ruler is the focal point for both these formations, and therefore indicative of great importance; I have felt a purpose all my life, but I've only just recently developed an understanding as to what that purpose might be.IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 1255 From: Monochrome Rαinbows Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 23, 2015 07:06 PM
My Goodness ! A double Arian, with 1H MOON and Leo 5H SUN. No wonder you're a leader. I know someone else who's a pretty good leader : a Scorpio, with a Leo MOON and a packed 5H (SUN included). And then there's a family member of mine, who likes to lead but isn't necessarily very good at it : double Gem with an impressive MARS/PLUTO=URA, with MARS and URA in Leo. So, maybe strong personalities (Aries, Leo, Scorpio) with a touch of emotional understanding and empathy (MOON-NEP, Water MERC, something like that) would make good leaders. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64089 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2015 07:07 PM
It looks like an amazing chart, FL. I wish I could spend time on it but I have been so busy with my professional charts, lately. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 236 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted August 23, 2015 07:44 PM
@peluches Thanks though I should mention that I lead by example rather than exerting power over others And I agree. Aries, Leo, Scorpio tend to make natural leaders. I'd also throw Pisces into the mix, because they often have unique insights that compel them to pioneer, innovate, follow their own path/pave the way for others, especially when their Progressed Suns have passed through Aries.@Ami Anne No worries but feel free to do so if you ever have the time. I've analyzed my chart meticulously, but I'm sure there are a lot of things I've missed that others can discern and point out. Just the other week someone on here brought to my attention that my chart ruler Mars is a singleton planet IP: Logged |
erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1055 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted August 23, 2015 08:06 PM
I have heavy Pluto in my chart but I have no leadership skills whatsoever...I wish I was a leader...I prefer to work in a team and more comfortable if someone else takes charge even if that person knows zilch lol. I have been offered a leadership position at a job once I turned it down, I just didn't feel comfortable...how sad is that? I was looking at Gordon Ramsey's natal chart to see what in his chart could be indicative of leadership but with no time of birth its hard to see his chart pattern or the angles! His Virgo stellium makes sense, because he strives for perfection!
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Leo-Dave Knowflake Posts: 108 From: Registered: May 2014
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posted August 23, 2015 09:10 PM
I would say the sign of Leo makes someone a natural leader. I have Sun, Moon and Venus in Leo and I've always worked for myself. I like being the boss. I also have Pluto trine the ascendant ( and many other Pluto aspects ). I like to lead, or be the boss. I can't stand working for anyone else. I've never had a problem opening my mouth or saying what I believe, which I think is a necessary quality of a leader.I love Donald Trump as he has the balls to stand up and open his mouth without fear of what people say about him. He has Leo Ascendant, and his Mars conjuncts his Ascendant. That's a very telling aspect in my opinion. IP: Logged |
TheTruthIsTheWay11 Knowflake Posts: 135 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 23, 2015 09:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Free Leon: [IMG]http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/FreeLeon/3d246ed6-e7 f3- 49d6-b22f-8f4bc33b511b_zpsgxfoeaey.gif[/IMG]I don't know how to say this in a modest way, but basically I'm a leader of leaders. I have an effortless influence over powerful individuals within my age group; they themselves have immense influence over others and are renowned for being the best in our area at what they do. I don't know what it is that attracts these people to me, but I've noticed I have met them when they are in their darkest hour and at a crucial point in their lives. A common theme/process in my association with these people is healing, guidance, and ultimately a restoration of genuine autonomy over their lives. I never expect anything in return (their companionship is enough, however, I do learn from them as well); I just know from experience what it is like to hit rock bottom, have no one to help you, and be faced with the decision to: a.) willingly succumb to the wounds and embark down a path of self-destruction or b.) gather the strength to get back on your feet and return better than ever I help them because I know what it is like to face life's greatest tribulation without any help; no one deserves to be alone during their darkest hour. Also, it would be a great loss if these specific individuals never realized their untapped potential. If I can serve as a catalyst for them to summon their own inner savior, then so be it -- I'll be a friend and an equal the entire way.
Our charts are nearly identical. For reasons other than Astrological (although you can see it in my chart, if you know where to look), I'm more of a hidden leader. At least, that's how it was originally. That's kinda changing now. I'm going to be a Politician. I have been throughout most of my Past Lives. I'm curious, what is your Life Path Number in Numerology (make sure to use the true Pythagorean way)? I'm an 11. Here is my chart:
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RoseLily Knowflake Posts: 81 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 23, 2015 10:05 PM
I always end up taking the lead, maybe not always the supreme alpha lead, but a leadership role of sort. I'm not the kind of person that immediately comes around and swipe everything under her wing, or make a strong impression at the start. it's more of a slow building of reliability and responsibility where people end up knowing me as the "Decisive, versatile and reliable girl" sort of thing. I impress people over time and they end up relying on me, which is a role I like and have the capability to fulfill. I have no problem being the right hand, but my Leo Venus won't settle for anything less. Beside being the leader settles my need to be in control and I have a general charisma and likability that doesn't make it very hard for me to shift the leader role upon myself, which I end up doing, because I like things going at my pace, which is quite fast. On another note, I don't think people with water moon makes good leader. They make wonderful friends, and are amazing to have around and all, but a leader will be faced with situation where he has to disregard his and other's feelings and do what he needs to do to keep business running. As my father says: "In business there is no friends." I feel like water moon people don't have the capability to be selfish enough, or properly dissociate themselves from others to make good leaders in the long run. IP: Logged |
NYCdodger Knowflake Posts: 887 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 23, 2015 10:14 PM
The Sun touching any of the 4 angles...A prominent 10th house Planets in its exalted sign or house IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 4481 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2015 10:26 PM
Saturn in the 10th house.Strong leadership qualities, natural born leaders, ruthless. This placement usually guarantees a rise to the top, sometimes followed by descent into disgrace. Notable personalities with a 10th house Saturn. Adolf Hitler, John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Angela Merkel, Queen Elizabeth II, Benazir Bhutto, Pope John Paul II, François Mitterrand, Hermann Goering, Oscar Pistorius, Oscar Wilde, Lucky Luciano, etc. ------------------ "There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I 'eat a peach' for peace." Duane Allman
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Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 236 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted August 23, 2015 10:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by TheTruthIsTheWay11: I'm curious, what is your Life Path Number in Numerology (make sure to use the true Pythagorean way)?
Life Path Number 9 -- August 3rd, 1996 IP: Logged |
Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 236 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted August 23, 2015 11:20 PM
9: Ennead the Spiritual Custodian Life Path 9 spirits are designed to 'celebrate' and preserve the value of HUMAN LIBERATION. From unwise governments to cruel bigotries, natural disasters and manmade ones as well, life is full of things that can cause suffering.. and the natural antidote Life gave humanity for ALL of those ills is the Enneadic Life Path Native. Whether the need of the moment is for a Revolutionary, a Humanitarian, a Healer, an Enlightener or a Relief Worker, it is from the 9 Life Path Native that we get what is needed to end the suffering. Paradoxically, that often means a life of extreme self-deprivation and exhausting overwork for them personally; but the Enneadic spirit considers ONLY the sufferings of others; they themselves are (really!,) quite above that themselves.. for they already ARE Liberated from Suffering, and only wish to share that with the world. UNIVERSAL WELLBEING is the central issue in life for all Enneadic Life Path Natives; they literally want Heaven on Earth at all times. Sure, that is unrealistic!.. and they know that, only they cannot help TRYING to make it happen. 'The Good Of The Many' as well as 'the good of the individual' guides them in their humanitarianism; and wherever that needs served THEY will serve. As the natural-born Custodians of the human Spirit, the 9 Life Path works to Enlighten, Heal, Prosper and Liberate all who are oppressed, poor, downtrodden, ill or enslaved; and if that sound like a 'do-gooder' you do not know how hard and fiercely the Ennead-soul will FIGHT for their cause! These are no daydreamers or sunday-school teachers!.. but Buddhas, Black Panthers, Freedom-Fighters and Underground Railway Conductors.. and they are not interested in 'ideals' but in HUMAN BEINGS. They may be (eventually!,) called a 'saint' or a 'senior spokesman' or a 'life-long activist,' but all they REALLY are is A FRIEND.. to everyone in need.Naturally drawn to the study of Enlightenment, the 9 Life Path Native can be found in every Mystical Order, Benevolent Society, Social Movement and Humanitarian Conference.. though most of them can be found in far more ordinary 'jobs' where it is their daily Words and Deeds rather than their Positions that make their work of Liberating the world happen. Whether it is the sympathetic nurse at the first-aid station or the kindly waiter who simply KNEW that you needed someone to tell your troubles to, you have known many of these Servants of the Spirit. That you never got the chance to properly thank them is part of their 'style;' for they work not for YOUR thanks but that of TOMORROW'S happier world. Notable 9 Life Path Natives: Mahatma Gandhi, Mother Teresa, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley, Elvis Presley, Kurt Cobain, Whitney Houston, Morgan Freeman, Laurence Fishburne, Robin Williams, Bill Murray, Jim Carrey, Matt Groening, Yoko Ono Fascinating -- sums up the essence of my first post on this thread, and alludes to the higher purpose I have assigned myself. Heal. Guide. Enlighten. IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 455 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted August 24, 2015 06:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by RoseLily:
I always end up taking the lead, maybe not always the supreme alpha lead, but a leadership role of sort. I'm not the kind of person that immediately comes around and swipe everything under her wing, or make a strong impression at the start. it's more of a slow building of reliability and responsibility where people end up knowing me as the "Decisive, versatile and reliable girl" sort of thing. I impress people over time and they end up relying on me, which is a role I like and have the capability to fulfill. I have no problem being the right hand, but my Leo Venus won't settle for anything less. Beside being the leader settles my need to be in control and I have a general charisma and likability that doesn't make it very hard for me to shift the leader role upon myself, which I end up doing, because I like things going at my pace, which is quite fast. On another note, I don't think people with water moon makes good leader. They make wonderful friends, and are amazing to have around and all, but a leader will be faced with situation where he has to disregard his and other's feelings and do what he needs to do to keep business running. As my father says: "In business there is no friends." I feel like water moon people don't have the capability to be selfish enough, or properly dissociate themselves from others to make good leaders in the long run.
Where you born on 16th June? Maybe 17th? My Sun is at 24º50' Gemini :-P Your chart is amazing with that grand trine. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 657 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 24, 2015 07:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by lalalinda: Saturn in the 10th house.Strong leadership qualities, natural born leaders, ruthless. This placement usually guarantees a rise to the top, sometimes followed by descent into disgrace. Notable personalities with a 10th house Saturn. Adolf Hitler, John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Angela Merkel, Queen Elizabeth II, Benazir Bhutto, Pope John Paul II, François Mitterrand, Hermann Goering, Oscar Pistorius, Oscar Wilde, Lucky Luciano, etc.
Saturn 10th here. Other things. We'll see what happens. My life isn't over yet! IP: Logged |
RoseLily Knowflake Posts: 81 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 24, 2015 07:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Soltze: Where you born on 16th June? Maybe 17th? My Sun is at 24º50' Gemini :-P Your chart is amazing with that grand trine.
right on! I was born on the 17th Thank you, I do love this trine, it brings a lot of good things and soften quite a lot of the harsh things other, harder, aspects could bring IP: Logged |
TheTruthIsTheWay11 Knowflake Posts: 135 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 25, 2015 12:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Free Leon: 9: Ennead the Spiritual Custodian Life Path 9 spirits are designed to 'celebrate' and preserve the value of HUMAN LIBERATION. From unwise governments to cruel bigotries, natural disasters and manmade ones as well, life is full of things that can cause suffering.. and the natural antidote Life gave humanity for ALL of those ills is the Enneadic Life Path Native. Whether the need of the moment is for a Revolutionary, a Humanitarian, a Healer, an Enlightener or a Relief Worker, it is from the 9 Life Path Native that we get what is needed to end the suffering. Paradoxically, that often means a life of extreme self-deprivation and exhausting overwork for them personally; but the Enneadic spirit considers ONLY the sufferings of others; they themselves are (really!,) quite above that themselves.. for they already ARE Liberated from Suffering, and only wish to share that with the world. UNIVERSAL WELLBEING is the central issue in life for all Enneadic Life Path Natives; they literally want Heaven on Earth at all times. Sure, that is unrealistic!.. and they know that, only they cannot help TRYING to make it happen. 'The Good Of The Many' as well as 'the good of the individual' guides them in their humanitarianism; and wherever that needs served THEY will serve. As the natural-born Custodians of the human Spirit, the 9 Life Path works to Enlighten, Heal, Prosper and Liberate all who are oppressed, poor, downtrodden, ill or enslaved; and if that sound like a 'do-gooder' you do not know how hard and fiercely the Ennead-soul will FIGHT for their cause! These are no daydreamers or sunday-school teachers!.. but Buddhas, Black Panthers, Freedom-Fighters and Underground Railway Conductors.. and they are not interested in 'ideals' but in HUMAN BEINGS. They may be (eventually!,) called a 'saint' or a 'senior spokesman' or a 'life-long activist,' but all they REALLY are is A FRIEND.. to everyone in need.Naturally drawn to the study of Enlightenment, the 9 Life Path Native can be found in every Mystical Order, Benevolent Society, Social Movement and Humanitarian Conference.. though most of them can be found in far more ordinary 'jobs' where it is their daily Words and Deeds rather than their Positions that make their work of Liberating the world happen. Whether it is the sympathetic nurse at the first-aid station or the kindly waiter who simply KNEW that you needed someone to tell your troubles to, you have known many of these Servants of the Spirit. That you never got the chance to properly thank them is part of their 'style;' for they work not for YOUR thanks but that of TOMORROW'S happier world. Notable 9 Life Path Natives: Mahatma Gandhi, Mother Teresa, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley, Elvis Presley, Kurt Cobain, Whitney Houston, Morgan Freeman, Laurence Fishburne, Robin Williams, Bill Murray, Jim Carrey, Matt Groening, Yoko Ono Fascinating -- sums up the essence of my first post on this thread, and alludes to the higher purpose I have assigned myself. Heal. Guide. Enlighten.
Hmm...Master Numbers (11, 22, 33, and the very rare 44) and 1s tend to be more leader-oriented. But the 9 works because of the Humanitarian side. If you look at your name Numerology, you might find that it helps compliment this 9. Maybe your Destiny Number is a 1 or a Master Number. IP: Logged | |