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Topic: The differences between similar element combos
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hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10263 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 26, 2015 11:12 AM
What's the difference between a Sag with a Capricorn moon, and an Aries with a Taurus moon? Both have Moon / Pluto aspects Both have Venus in a fire sign that is influenced by Uranus (or the 11th house) Would they really be that different in the way they felt and expressed themselves? IP: Logged |
NoireAries Knowflake Posts: 124 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 26, 2015 01:07 PM
Well, yeah. Just because they have the same element (and some shared aspects between certain planets) doesn't mean that they'll be that similar. Sagittarius is mutable and ruled by Jupiter. Aries is cardinal and ruled by Mars. Capricorn is also cardinal and ruled by Saturn. Taurus is fixed and ruled by Venus.That (the modalities), and the signs themselves (ex. Sagittarius is very philosophical while Aries is headstrong and brash) and where each sign and planet falls in a person's chart/house can and does make a tremendous difference in terms of many things. Also, the other aspects between the planets you've mentioned can signify different things as well, such as whether that planet is afflicted or not. Rulership is important too. (An Aries Sun is exalted, a Sagittarius one isn't. A Taurus Moon is also exalted while a Capricorn Moon is detriment.) I could go on and on. But it's important to remember that two people can have the same exact chart yet be vastly different. And to also look at the ENTIRE chart instead of bits and pieces. So, to answer your question, yes these people would vary on how they feel and express themselves. IP: Logged |
Dreaminess Knowflake Posts: 665 From: norway Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 26, 2015 02:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by NoireAries: Well, yeah. Just because they have the same element (and some shared aspects between certain planets) doesn't mean that they'll be that similar. Sagittarius is mutable and ruled by Jupiter. Aries is cardinal and ruled by Mars. Capricorn is also cardinal and ruled by Saturn. Taurus is fixed and ruled by Venus.That (the modalities), and the signs themselves (ex. Sagittarius is very philosophical while Aries is headstrong and brash) and where each sign and planet falls in a person's chart/house can and does make a tremendous difference in terms of many things. Also, the other aspects between the planets you've mentioned can signify different things as well, such as whether that planet is afflicted or not. Rulership is important too. (An Aries Sun is exalted, a Sagittarius one isn't. A Taurus Moon is also exalted while a Capricorn Moon is detriment.) I could go on and on. But it's important to remember that two people can have the same exact chart yet be vastly different. And to also look at the ENTIRE chart instead of bits and pieces. So, to answer your question, yes these people would vary on how they feel and express themselves.
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hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10263 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 26, 2015 02:26 PM
I know that have technical differences, but in real life and their attitudes arr they that different? I'm the Aries here and my friend is the Sag. He is more scientific than me but emotionally it seems like we're the exact same.IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2230 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 26, 2015 02:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I know that have technical differences, but in real life and their attitudes arr they that different? I'm the Aries here and my friend is the Sag. He is more scientific than me but emotionally it seems like we're the exact same.
Sag is a more mental sign. Take a lot to hold a sag's attention Aries wants to be the best. I think there's more similarities between Aries and Leo IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 1234 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 26, 2015 04:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I know that have technical differences, but in real life and their attitudes arr they that different? I'm the Aries here and my friend is the Sag. He is more scientific than me but emotionally it seems like we're the exact same.
Yes. Also I think there is a sign in all elements that just fits is less than the others. Sag is one of them. Also, the aspects between the sun and moon themselves will effect the personality as well. From what I see yes in real life they will be very different. I am an aqua with cancer moon and I dated a libra with scorpio moon. Man were we different. Only taking sun and moon into account: he was more social and into trends while I was more reclusive and went against the grain. Gemini suns are more flighty and happy, which may not apply to libra and aqua. He was vengeful, sharp and lashed out, he was more proactive with his emotions while I was more of the sponge and reactive. I would say pisces moon is receptive. IP: Logged |
NoireAries Knowflake Posts: 124 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 26, 2015 06:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I know that have technical differences, but in real life and their attitudes arr they that different? I'm the Aries here and my friend is the Sag. He is more scientific than me but emotionally it seems like we're the exact same.
Edit Well, the technical stuff DOES influence these differences. Cardinal energy is get up and go energy. Mutable energy is go-with-the-flow energy. Fixed energy is, well, fixed, unmoving energy. The Sag/Cap person is thus mutable/cardinal (but that doesn't mean that that's their dominant modalities). They like to start things yet are flexible. The Aries/Taurus person is cardinal/fixed. They like to start things too but aren't as flexible but may be more likely to be consistent and finish things. Fire signs are extroverted. Earth signs are introverted. Neither one of them are more or less outgoing/reserved (although being extroverted or introverted doesn't necessarily translate into these attributes), based on the limited information. An exalted planet means that that planet acts more or less how it's suppose to while detriment planets are afflicted in some way. The Aries person therefore has a more developed and "healthy" ego (only based on the exaltation alone and ignoring aspects and house placement that may change this, like the Sun in the 12th, for example) while the Sagittarius is more "neutral." The Aries person is more controlled but in tune with their emotions while the Sagittarius's person may be more inhibited by their emotions that they may not necessarily understand at times. So the only thing I truly see in common via the elements is a similar temperament (which you claim to be the exact same) and not much else. Again, all that I listed in this post and the previous one will and does affect how these people feel and express themselves. You also have to look at the entire chart. A few things in common doesn't guarantee that two people will be even remotely similar. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10263 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 26, 2015 06:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by bansheequeen: Yes. Also I think there is a sign in all elements that just fits is less than the others. Sag is one of them. Also, the aspects between the sun and moon themselves will effect the personality as well. From what I see yes in real life they will be very different. I am an aqua with cancer moon and I dated a libra with scorpio moon. Man were we different. Only taking sun and moon into account: he was more social and into trends while I was more reclusive and went against the grain. Gemini suns are more flighty and happy, which may not apply to libra and aqua. He was vengeful, sharp and lashed out, he was more proactive with his emotions while I was more of the sponge and reactive. I would say pisces moon is receptive.
Great description, thanks! IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6026 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted August 26, 2015 09:06 PM
From my perspective, the biggest differences are based on the -personal sign vs. transpersonal sign- distinction. I don't find personal-to-transpersonal matches very compatible overall, especially when we are talking about 'same planet' aspects (Sun2Sun, Moon2Moon, Merc2Merc etc.) But it always depends on the overall chart! You would definitely be much more compatible with a Sagittarian who likewise has a personal Moon sign (mainly Taurus and Cancer). IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 56504 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 29, 2015 09:35 AM
Very extroverted. Lots of Earth.IP: Logged |