posted August 26, 2015 10:50 PM            

They are definitely significant in both. However, I'm not sure how transits would factor in.

posted August 29, 2015 05:45 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Julz87:

@wheresthemoon & @ceredwin, ooh! would you mind sharing some events/experiences.

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I can share last saturday`s event, though it will take a lot of time to do so.

Well, for the astrological "toolkit", I am using natal and progressed midpoints; I ONLY check Tr Moon, Tr ASC, Tr MC, Tr Vertex and Tr ASC/MC-midpoint (it relates to "at this minute at this place").
Orb is about 20 minutes only.
To specify those midpoints that were "acute" at any given time, since there are many midpoints, everything else muddles the picture, though of course usually I would use a 1 degree orb.

Background story
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I guess everyone knows my story with MR Sag by now, It`s all over here.
Anyway he scheduled a gathering, a fan-meeting last saturday in a restaurant. Very informal, too.
I was having a good time, and interestingly not even paying that much attention to him, as i was busy getting to know the people at my table and do a bit of entertaining myself. Just been having a pretty extrovert day.
I did not expect a lot of that day, also cause well, our "connecting" has been a little weird and vague before (though interspersed with certain "eruptions" of recognition and I don`t know intrigue).

Anyway while I was not paying that much attention, he seems to have been quite aware of me, even when I was not noticing; apparently had been looking at me (or my meal) over my shoulder for quite some time without me noticing, until a woman at my table pointed it out, asking him if he was wanting a dessert as well. And when I turned around, well - I had not realized how close he had been pushing his chair towards me (he was in my back at that time), and he was asking me about my dessert, and well I had not quite made up my mind about it.
Nevertheless I did not think it was that important, he probably just had to say something after the woman pointed out his keen interest in probably my meal, cause if he had kept on staring at me, it would have become really weird.

But I guess I asessed the situation wrong, he must have been truely fascinated with my meal, cause about half an hour later, while he had taken up his round and was sitting at another table, apparently immersed in a talk with the people there, while I had been chatting a little to the waiter, who was taking away the rest of my meal (I did maybe eat a third of it), and when I raised my head a few minutes later, I saw the waiter had never made it to the door, But Mr Sag was inspecting my leftovers and talk to the waiter about why I had not eaten up. And I was so surprised I forgot to be shy and just looking right over there, possibly looking REALLY surprised. The waiter looking slightly uncomfortable calling out to me that he had not been allowed to leave, Mr Sag had not let him.
And Mr Sag himself starting to ask me about why I had not eaten up and if it was really that much (he pretty much laughed that reason away. lol) or if it had just not been good, this weird short chat was taking place all over the room, I mean he was sitting several metres away by then. And I think I hardly answered verbally, but instead made some gestures indicating the meal had been too much, yes, but also that the quality was just "so-so".

Thing is, it surprised me, cause I wasn`t aware we were on "chatty-basis". lol

posted August 29, 2015 05:52 AM            

Sun= Day
Moon = hour
Sun/Moon= this day and hour
ASC = place
MC = minute
ASC/MC = at this place and minute

I haven`t found Vertex in the lectures, but personally I find the Vertex to be important as bringing something very suddenly to the forefront, like an eruption of something.

posted August 29, 2015 06:03 AM            

maybe you are interested in this
http://astropost.blogspot.de/2011/07/transit-saturn-and-sunmoon-midpoint.html

http://sasstrology.com/2012/02/your-sunmoon-midpoint-the-key-to-your-relationships.html

Funny enough I just realized Tr Uranus is slowly creeping closer to square my Vertex and my Sun/Moon-mp so the second article might be relating to me as well!

posted August 29, 2015 11:32 AM            

Still using the orb of 20 minutes for transiting planets triggering midpoint pictures.

UNLESS there is already a natal or progressed planet being triggered. I am using 1 degree for those in event charts, and checking to which midpoint pictures they are tied; in this case the orb might extend to about 1 degree as well.

Now for last saturday, we were having a triple 4th harmonic alignment of Sun, Moon and Saturn from 28-29 of fixed signs (Moon-Saturn in Scorpio, Sun in Leo).
Moon, as the fast moving one here, was exacting the 4th harmonic pattern during the evening (and curiously enough once Moon had JUST touched off Saturn and Sun respectively and was preparing to separate, I was leaving as well, which was a bit premature, but my parents were waiting for me already, so I had to cut it short before it was officially ended).

Anyway so I checked for Sun(day) and Moon (hour) together as they were just under one degree anyway.

What i find interesting however is that during the event I described, transiting MC had ALSO come into alignment with Tr MOon and Tr Sun, it was conjunct Tr Moon btw.

While the Sun and Moon of course were relatively stable and unchanging at least for the course of one or two hours, the transiting MC made that a VERY specific point in time (changing one degree every 4 minutes approximately).

Of course in the eventchart itself, having Moon on the MC is quite telling itself.

For me this Sun-Moon-(Saturn)-MC, was roughly triggering my pVenus at 27 Aquarius along with my nBML at 27/28 Aquarius as well.

now the orbs might be a tad wide, Tr Sun being 2 degrees of opposing my pVenus (and Tr Venus opposing my n Moon - how curious!); Tr MC was about 1,5 degrees off my Venus and Tr MOon was just about 1 degree of my p Venus.

Now in the case of Tr MC it might be the case that I might have gotten the time wrong for 2 minutes of course, and had it been actually 2 minutes earlier, the transiting MC would have been even closer aligned with my p Venus - hence I still consider it as being triggered.

so we have:

Tr Sun= Tr Moon= Tr MC=
pVenus
= nSaturn/Pluto = n Mercury/Uranus = pNode/MC = p Sun/Jupiter
= (nSun/Uranus)

Tr MC was also VERY closely conjunct n Sun/URanus-mp (only 2 minutes of arc) - it was still 1,5 degree away from p Venus, but my Venus is actually applying to that, and I wonder if through the transiting MC that day, I was getting a "taste" of what that pVenus=Sun/Uranus, will be like, once it is near exactness. (in december this year)

Tr ASC=
Jupiter/Neptune = Jupiter/node = pSun/Saturn (separating already)

Tr Sun/Moon (this day and hour)=
pSaturn 0°01!
= Moon/Neptune
= Moon/Node

*sighs* especially the triggering of Moon/Node could have been so nice! But no damned Saturn has to be in the way once again! And see how close?
Actually my pSaturn is applying to my p DESC slowly (peak: march 2017 - so still some time).

well maybe he did keep the Moon/Neptune in check a little.

Saturn has been all over my chart (and life) for the recent years, and he is not letting up! I need him though.

Tr ASC/MC (this place and minute)
= Saturn/ASC = p Saturn/Neptune = p Sun/MC

if you read the interpretations of these they feel so gloomy esp. Saturn/Neptune, however i do wonder if maybe for me they also represent separating dreams from reality. with Sun/MC triggered it certainly brought a it of identity-thoughts to the forefront.
(btw it was also conjunct our composite Sun, interestingly enough).

so to summarize it; what was activated for me:

(pVenus) = pNeptune/MC (wide)
(Ideas on love and affection are not clear and distinct)

To appear unreliable or mysterious.To be uncomfortable. Introspective, soul searching, mystical. To be unsure, unable to support. To be intuitive. To concentrate on the future. To follow the unknown. The doubtful. To be sensitive or Intuitive.

(pVenus) = n Moon/Jupiter
To love happy; and cheerful hours. A woman made happy by love.
An abundance of feeling, a harmonious nature radiating happiness, an
artistic sense. A woman artist. A happy and loving woman.

pVenus= nSaturn/Pluto
Harmony and love develop slowly. to separate in peace. renunciation.
(it is a weird midpoint, as it can mean two very different things)

pVenus= Mercury/Uranus
Sudden love. Sense for rhythmic or plastic beauty. Singing. Sudden pleasant news. Sudden news from friends. Excitement with or through acquaintances.

pVenus= p Node/MC
The urge to reveal one's innermost feelings and inclinations in
personal associations. The capacity to love with one's whole heart.

p Venus = pSun/Jupiter
Healthy love-relationship, healthy sex life. The beautiful body,
good art. Recognition, honours. Success in love, the loving husband.
The man in love. To physically feel happy because of love. Success with hobbies and favored recreation activities. Indulgences.

p Venus= Sun/Uranus
Unexpected affection or love. Sudden events concerning love. Romantic love. To be ecstatic over love. A happy surprise.Sudden outbursts of affection and love, the tendency to fall in love
quickly. Romantic or unusual experiences of love.

Tr ASC was also triggering:
Jupiter/Neptune = Jupiter/Node = pSun/Saturn

I find the latter interesting, as Mr Sag`s natal Venus triggers the same midpoints in me (which was brought forefront through the transiting angle) and natally I have Venus=Sun/Saturn, so a natal picture being brought out through synastry and progression. Just one of those days I suppose (or months).

Hence I find the Venus=Sun/Saturn needs special mentioning

"Scruples related to love (ethical objections to certain actions). Restraints and difficulties related to love, shyness, inhibition, withdrawel, control, pessimism"

While all that is true, there are of course more positive manifestations possible. Sun/Saturn can be a pretty realistic, grounded, pragmatic combo, for stabilizing and structuring things, connected to relationships.
I guess that is my task right now, to find the best possible expression of this natal picture of mine.

well and then there were
Jupiter/Neptune
expansive, unrestricted visions; believing in the dream; possible unrealistic optimism, excessive escapism, idealism.

Well I can`t help but notice the contrast to the Sun/Saturn-picture.

But it is fitting, me having both and additionally Saturn/Neptune as a summary of both ends of the spectre.

Jupiter/node
optimistic expansive dealings with the public, an effusive public persona
(yes that is at least what I was showing).

Then of course

pSaturn=Moon/Neptune= Moon/Node

Well the older interpretations are all gloomy and depressing about that. Actually the Saturn-Moon-Neptune is a typical depression-combo, Moon/NOde with Saturn is also depressing, separative, gloomy.

However it might simply represent a restriction or refusal of any kind of emotional connection (Moon/Node) that is based on fantasy rather than realism (Moon/Neptune).
Saturn does not simply cut off things, he evaluates them, and only lets through what seems necessary and needed and good in the long run. and Moon/Neptune clearly does not belong in this category.
In the best case scenario it means a structuring of creative emotional connections.

Interestingly instead of the depression-factor of Saturn to Moon and/or Neptune, (though it was also a factor) I have in the last years experienced more the "anchoring in reality and manifestation, structuring and building" aspect of him.
But he really is a harsh judge of fantasies. :sighs:

and then this very specific moment also these were triggered

Saturn/ASC = p Saturn/Neptune = pSun/MC

again with the seriousness of Saturn.
And Saturn/Neptune coming up AGAIN.

Don McBroom has to say this about Saturn/Neptune

"giving substance to the dream. Making the intangible tangible; clarifying the nebulous, bending the rules; possible blurred or unclear boundaries"

I feel that sums it up better than the old doomsayer interpretations.

And on Sun/MC
"seeking out public exposure; thriving in the spotlight"

While i was not relaly "seeking" it out, I was surprised how comfortable i felt in the centre of attention. Not just in terms of Mr Sag, but actually the others as well.

Also I looked up the interpretation of Saturn/Pluto in Mc Brooms book
"increased stability as a result of major change or sacrifice; meeting of irresistible force and immovable object; monumental power struggle between status quo and necessary; inevitable change"

Definitely feel THAT ONE very clearly. since it is my Venus applying to saturn/Pluto, the change relates to her. It is change and transformation that HAS to happen through or of my attitude to relationships, love and my perception of myself as a woman.
Of course with Saturn/Pluto, there are sacrifices to be made, getting rid of things you donīt quite WANT to get rid of, but have to; to realize that what you WANT is not necessarily the same as what you NEED, and surrendering to Need rather than what you think you want. And yes I have been there already (the p Venus= pSaturn/Pluto was already exact last january/ february), and it is not fun, but I also realized that there is a lot to gain as well.

Interestingly my Mercury/Uranus and Sun/Uranus midpoints are also at 28 of fixed signs (just in scorpio instead of leo), so the heavy transformative catalystic vibration of Saturn/Pluto also always comes together with the crazy making quick liberation of these Uranian pictures. Change is inevitable.

Well I do think those Saturn-pictures are usually more background humming, but hammering away relentlessly though not as flashy. Uranus, Jupiter, Mars those tend to be more in the forefront of the mind, whihc might be the reason that I clearly instanyl could recognize the effect of the Moon/Jupiter, MErucry/Uranus, Sun/Jupiter and Sun/Uranus.

Oh btw speaking of Saturn/Pluto - maybe the fact i was having a toothache was even related to that. lol

posted August 29, 2015 01:08 PM            

From an astrological perspective:

Tr Sun= Tr Moon = Tr MC
= pNode = pUranus/ASC = pSaturn/MC

So for him that moment his nodal axis was triggered (which of course means my pVenus is applying to this as well, something I never even realized before! lol)

And then I find it interesting that he had Utranus tied to ASC and Saturn to MC. Trying to maintain a statusquo and stick to the rules as this was of course work for him that evening, or part of the work, and at the same time on a personal level (ASC)

feeling the urge to disrupt the status quo and do

whatever he pleases.

NODE T

NODE TO MIDPOINT URANUS/ASC
Getting like-minded people on board; the bringing about of
sudden changes jointly with others.

Node tO MIDPOINT SATURN/M.C.
Potential in the job or in the family; major stroke of fate may affect
all developments.

Tr ASC =
nVenus
= pSaturn/Uranus = MErucry/mars =Neptune/Node = Uranus/Vertex

VENUS TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
Tensions in romantic life; running hot and cold, off again, on
again ; feeling personally limited.
Sudden rupture in love. Separation from something wished for.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/MARS
Quick decisions in matters of love and affection; the tendency to fall
in love quickly. Excited plans about romance; creative inspiration,
insight.The pleasant voice. Harmonious debates with good friends. Discussions about sex matters. Lover's quarrels.

VENUS TO NEPTUNE/NODE
idealistic romantic sometimes unrealistic ideas about love and relationship; spiritual connections.

Tr Vertex=
pASC = pJupiter/Node = pVenus/Node

ASC TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/NODE
Pleasantness with others

ASC TO MIDPOINT VENUS/NODE
Affectionate nature; cordiality, popularity. A love affair.

Tr Sun/Moon
= p Mercury/Neptune (almost out of orb)

ME/NE To ramble (in speaking). Illogical thinking. poetry. Intuition. Fancy. Imagination. Want of clarity. Uncertainly. Contusion. Intuitive thinking. Imagination.

(maybe he was simply fed up with the vagueness. lol)

Tr A/M
= n Sun=nSaturn=nMC=nMoon
=Sun/MC = Sun/Moon
=Pluto/NOde (only through Sun and Saturn)
= pUranus/MC (only by Moon and MC)

yeah, sure, it HAD to trigger THAT stellium.

SATURN TO MIDPOINT SUN/MC
Maturation through sobering experiences. Refinement of ambition.
Learning from apparent mistakes. The necessity to make grave or difficult decisions.

MOON TO MIDPOINT SUN/MC
An instinctively correct understanding of life's aims. Finding one's
position in life, usually through the profession.

SATURN TO MIDPOINT SUN/MOON
Serious - perhaps overly-so - attitude or mental disposition.
Inhibitions in the yang-yin interplay. There is a tendency to
depressive states of mind, or such a state of mind may be a
consequence of frustrations and separations, or of difficult
relationships between the sexes

Serious and difficult times. Not a good time to marry. obstacles to marriage. Sorrowful marital states. Sudden enmity in friendship and marriage. Divorce and separation

M.C. TO MIDPOINT SUN/MOON
Mind at peace with itself. Fulfilment and consummation of partnership.
The body, mind and soul in harmony.

SATURN TO MIDPOINT PLUTO/NODE
A lack of adaptability, truculence, revolt, the fighting against
oppression. A violent termination of relationships.

SUN TO MIDPOINT PLUTO/NODE
The urge to impose one's will on others.

MOON TO MIDPOINT URANUS/M.C.
Prominent shift of direction for emotional fulfilment; excitement
about making a new bid for advancement in life. Irritability, a quick
change of mood, a quick temper.
To be in a bad humor (or excited, agitated) on account of a woman or the public. To enact a scene.

posted August 29, 2015 03:10 PM            

Anywa for me this moment triggered this:

Tr ASC/MC = pMars (but no midpoints)
though my pMars is just 1,5 degrees off my n Venus. lol

Tr ASC
= p Uranus
= Mercury/Jupiter = Sun/Jupiter
= pMercury/ASC

Yeah, a lot of surprising communication with and about me.

URANUS TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/JUPITER
The display of interest in novelties, inquisitiveness and curiosity,
quickness at repartee.

URANUS TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/ASC
Others get excited and talk excited. To be involved in an argument. Altercation.

URANUS TO MIDPOINT SUN/JUPITER
the inclination to
speculate and gamble. A sudden turn, sudden success.
Pleasant surprises while striving for success

Tr MC=
= n Mars
= Venus/Uranus
(though this one is a little wide, 1,5 degrees)

MARS TO MIDPOINT VENUS/URANUS
Strong excitability in love. Creative activity. A sudden stepping-up
of the sex-life, procreation, birth.
Passionate sensuality, refined however. Sudden new acquaintances that become intimate.

Tr Vertex
= n ASC (only 2 minutes)
= Mars/Neptune = Mars /NOde
= pMercury/Jupiter = p Uranus/ASC = pVenus/Jupiter

ASC TO MIDPOINT MARS/NEPTUNE
Giving off a magnetic or off-the-norm emanation; being definitely
different.

ASC TO MIDPOINT MARS/NODE
Easy camaraderie, energetic and vigorous cooperation.

ASC TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/JUPITER
Successful teamwork,a fruitful meeting.Happy and cheerful entertainment and conversation

ASC TO MIDPOINT URANUS/ASC
Showcase opportunity for individuality; show off time.

ASC TO MIDPOINT VENUS/JUPITER
A bright disposition; good cheer.
Pleasantness and success through others. To be admired

Tr Vertex
= p NN
= Mars/Node = Neptune/ASC = Node/ASC
= pVenus/jupiter = pSaturn/Uranus = pSun/Pluto

NODE TO MIDPOINT MARS/NODE
Meeting others to get the work done.

NODE TO MIDPOINT NODE/ASC
Personal relationships become prominent.

NODE TO MIDPOINT VENUS/JUPITER
Sharing joy with other people, an unselfish disposition.
Engagement.

NODE TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
Too much combative energy to fit teamwork requirements easily.
Joint resistance to a common opponent.

posted August 29, 2015 03:31 PM            

Tr ASC/MC
= pMars/Pluto = pMoon/Jupiter = pSun/ASC = pMoon/Venus

MA/PL To accomplish several things at the same time. to lead, to supervise or to perform several activities at he same time. Transformation and change in the activity in one's work and in the working conditions. strong passions, sexual energy.

MO/JU Happiness of female persons. Contentment. Happy hours. Faith. Happy hours. The fortunate (happy) woman. Luck in public life.

AS/SO Personal salutation or greetings. To make acquaintances. Connections. Personal relationships. Physical relations to other people. To meet acquaintances.

MO/VE The love or affection of or for women. Feeling. Love. Hours Or love. Woman's love. The people's love.

Tr ASC
= pSun (EXACT 0.00)
= Mercury/ASC = Mercury/Saturn = Sun/JUpiter= Sun/Mars =Jupiter/MC
=pMercury/MC = pMars/Neptune

SUN TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/ASC
The inclination to cultivate and exchange ideas; Exchange of thoughts about the native.

SUN TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/SATURN
Making a go of it, getting down to work, discipline paying off.

SUN TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/M.C.
A harmonious relationship between body, soul and spirit
Thoughts about one's own body. To philosophize. Physical agility.

SUN TO MIDPOINT SUN/JUPITER
Health, joy, feeling great, success, recognition.

SUN TO MIDPOINT SUN/MARS
The will to live, vitality and vigour, activity.

SUN TO MIDPOINT MARS/NEPTUNE
New plans are illuminated; situational changes

SUN TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/M.C.
Illumination of one's purpose in life; new opportunities; recognition
of success. A healthy physique, being able to make the best of life's
opportunities. The good fortune to live in pleasant and agreeable
circumstances, well-to-do people.
Physical well-being. Susceptible to flattery. Vanity.

Tr Vertex
= Uranus/Neptune = pMars/Node

Uranus/Neptune
confusion, mystical otherworldy experiences, imperceptible revolutionary changes

Mars/Node
teamwork, cooperation, arguments, sexual connection

Tr MC
= pASC
= pJupiter/Node = pVenus/Node

ASC TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/NODE
Pleasantness with others

posted August 29, 2015 04:33 PM            

my perspective

Tr ASC/MC=
n Saturn exact
= pMercury/Node = pVenus/Node = pJupiter/MC

Tr ASC=
Venus/MC= Uranus/Neptune = Uranus/Node

Tr MC=
Moon/Pluto

Tr Vertex =
Mercury/Mars = Sun/Mars = pSaturn/MC

I was actually pretty okay with it, but I find the pictures of my natal Saturn quite telling, Mercury/node and Venus/Node both both relating to some sort of relation/ connection (communicative, aestheitcal, romantic) and Saturn sort of cutting this off.

Anyway, the interpretations

SATURN TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/NODE
Reticence about sharing one's point of view with others; perhaps too
much self-control or modesty. Termination of associations. People
associated through common or joint suffering or mourning.

SATURN TO MIDPOINT VENUS/NODE
Inhibitions, shyness. Awakening from a love-dream into reality.
Withdrawal.

SATURN TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/M.C.
Cautious pursuit of opportunity, respect for the rules. Inhibitions
coupled with an otherwise happy disposition, not making the best of
opportunities presented, missing the right moment. An unrecognised
talent, discontent. A happy change or separation.
To be glad over a separation. Parting without sorrow.

(no, i was not "glad", but as I said, I was alright with it, though I would have preferred to stay a bit longer)

also being triggered

MC/VE To have the power of attraction. To be attractive. One's hopes and wishes. To be fond of some thing. Sympathies. One's own personal attraction and affections. Love sentiments. One's own wishes. Affection. Fondness.

UR/NO sudden unusual connection or separation; unusual aquaitances

MO/PL emotional intensity; passion; emotionally being shaken up; Fickleness of female persons. Public changes. Unstable condition of the public. Changes which come and go fast. Women or persons, the public who change, who show a different face, who change their character.

ME/MA Argument. Energetic thought. Hasty and energetic action. Critics. Activity of the brain. Power of thought. Clear, sharp thinking. Disputes. Criticism.

posted August 29, 2015 04:51 PM            

Tr ASC/MC
= Jupiter/Uranus = Mars/Uranus
= pNode/ASC = pVenus/Uranus

- whoa, so much Uranus. certainly came as a surprise. lol

Tr ASC
= Neptune/Pluto = pVenus/MC

Tr MC
= Node/ASC
= pSaturn/Node = pMercury/Pluto

Tr Vertex
= pMars
= Saturn/Node = Mercury/Neptune
= pMoon/MC = pSun/Moon

JU/UR Sudden luck; or misfortune if JU is posited in poor pictures. Fortunate events.

MA/UR To become suddenly active. Sudden event. Exciting action. Energetic act. injury. Over impulsive action. Sudden acts. Fighting. Wounds.

VE/UR Sudden affection or love. Refined sensuality. To be discriminating in love. Sudden romantic love. To give in. Sudden expression of love. To be the surprised object of love and affection.

NO/ASC easy intimate connection with the public

- interestingly my n Saturn is tied to these midpoint pictures in his chart, like I am really restricting all that Uranianness. his very own personal Ice-bucket-challenge. That is me.

NE/PL Sneaking, unnoticeable transformation. Secrecies. Changes which are not noticed externally. Sneaking transformations. Changes only recognized In the future. Transformation and change below the surface. Sneaking crisis.

MC/VE To have the power of attraction. To be attractive. One's hopes and wishes. To be fond of some thing. Sympathies. One's own personal attraction and affections. Love sentiments. One's own wishes. Affection. Fondness.

Tr MC
= Node/ASC
= p Saturn/Node = pMercury/Pluto

ME/PL To develop a thought. Thinking and perception is one thing. External and internal motion. The development of thinking. From thinking to understanding. Development and change of thinking, of the opinion, of the outlook on life, of the understanding

SA/NO serious connection; restraint, control. feeling inhibited, blocked, isolated. separation.

Tr Vertex
= p Mars
= Saturn/Node = Mercury/Neptune
= pMoon/MC = pSun/Moon

MARS TO MIDPOINT MOON/M.C.
Strong work-orientation; promotion; strength on the job. The longing
for a soul mate. The introduction of a man to a woman.
Sexual stimulation of women. One who is able to be firm. Mentally decisive and organized. The attitude of a soldier.

MARS TO MIDPOINT SUN/MOON
Energetic interplay of Yin and Yang for better or worse. Sexual urge.
Drive for partnership or union.
Marriage. Wedlock. The act of marriage. A marriage of reproduction. A sexual friendship. A sex relationship.