posted September 04, 2015 05:30 PM            

I know Venus conjunct Pluto is not easy to deal, we have high ideal in a relationship....but when that os opposed Jupiter and Chiron(not tight but still) am I doomed because of my fears/Chirons pain?
How do I overcome the fears?

posted September 04, 2015 07:37 PM            

I will say this though. Oh, but before I do, I'm just basically suggesting some deep introspection of yourself, rather than looking at potential partners and their qualities.

posted September 04, 2015 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Well, I'm not sure about picking a type for you based on your chart.

I will say this though. Oh, but before I do, I'm just basically suggesting some deep introspection of yourself, rather than looking at potential partners and their qualities.

What I'm getting at is your 12th house Virgo moon. I have my Virgo, as you know. When I met my wife, things were great, then tough, really tough, then, it's like the clouds parted, the chaos went away, and we just figured everything out. We both simultaneously agreed on what was important, where we can bend a little for each other. There's a lot of things, personal examples I mean, if you ever wanted me to message you about them.
Basically what I'm saying is, take a look at how critical and unyielding that you might be. Things may not be all that you want right away, and what you want you may find actually changes.
I would just say to follow your instincts. Follow your heart. Things change. They may open up later, etc. Or you may be able to share your sexual needs and talk it out, etc etc.
Hope that helps!

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posted September 04, 2015 09:47 PM            

Your Venus conjunct Pluto in 1st can be too intense and can scare people away, especially when Jupiter opposes it. Instead of focusing so intensely on relationhips and partners and gloom and doom, focus on yourself since you have Venus and PLuto in 1st. What is it about your appearance that you have been meaning to work on? Do it!

posted September 04, 2015 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Relax, Jupiter does not deny or delay. Saturn on the other hand...

Your Venus conjunct Pluto in 1st can be too intense and can scare people away, especially when Jupiter opposes it. Instead of focusing so intensely on relationhips and partners and gloom and doom, focus on yourself since you have Venus and PLuto in 1st. What is it about your appearance that you have been meaning to work on? Do it!

Having Jupiter in 7th is a great place. Normally, you should be blessed with a great partner. Just learn to balance your Pluto intensity with his happy go lucky Jupiter personality.

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I would have thought Jupiter in 7th would be good to..I think the fact that Jupiter is exactly opposed my Pluto/Venus midpoint affects the way Jupiter plays in my 7th.

So pretty much your saying lighten up? Lol
That's good advice, very fitting for me...
I'm not usually a spaz but lately I've been feeling like that, probably because transit Pluto is retograde and moving back into a t-square with my libra Pluto/AC/Venus and aries Jupiter.

Pluto is 3 degrees away from my AC....it's hard to figure out how you fit into life with this aspect. Your just so different than others, so much intensity inside yourself that you must maintain. Its like you have a tornado your trying to control all the time and others don't realize or understand it.

posted September 05, 2015 09:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is Venus in Libra and Jupiter in Aries? How tight is the opposition?

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Yes
Venus opposed Jupiter 4 degree
Pluto opposed Jupiter 4 degree
That's not tight enough to have this affect...or cause me to stress so much, imo.

I decided to look up what it meant for a planet to activate Venus/Pluto midpoint...this looks like a potential cause for why I have such a hard time finding the depth I'm looking for....

Midpoint between Venus/Pluto is libra@15
Jupiter aries@15 exact opposed the midpoint

Venus/Pluto: is a deep love that is beyond the superficial, and can become obsessive if one isn’t careful.

Planets activating Venus/Pluto midpoint-
Jupiter: To be excessive in the expression of an intense attraction. One who reaches out to others in an intensely loving way. A willingness to allow love to raise one into a higher consciousness.

Asteroid Pan sits in my Jupiter..
4450 -- Pan -- Seductive and earthy sensuality, creative, wily, and likely to instill "panic" to produce change or contact.

posted September 05, 2015 01:33 PM            

One thing that Libra here can be,is a perfectionist!

But unfortunately,life does NOT play out as a scene from "Casablanca" or "Gone with the wind". Or can it?

Often people with Pluto in Libra conjunct Venus are convinced that this type of atmosphere CAN be created.

Venus in Libra is more in love with the idea of love- rather than love itself. Many people with this placements that I know of, can become "love sick".

Venus-Pluto conjunct Libra people are transformed by love and learn to ingest what the world has been grappling with forever; learning to accept another as an equal and complete partner and NOT as an extension of their projected ideals or the part that they were missing all along.

Often they can be an example to others who wrestle with trying to "fix" their partner to whom they want them to be.

The Libra air element encourages these individuals to create for themselves an ideal, but at the same time ALLOW for their partner to do the same.

To learn that what the "other" is and is not, does not take away from loving them "as is".

After all,they learn that they are loving a person,not an ideal.They are loving the beautiful as well as the not-so pretty etc.

This is often painful to learn because it is often the "idea" of love that these people want.

Many choose to break off and walk away when things don't conform to the ideal. And this is what Pluto does when they are young. It makes them rigid in finding the "ideal".

Love itself often is not what they recognize for a long time. As it's NEVER how it is in the movies and in romantic books. And that can be extremely disappointing once realized.

But the phoenix rising(Pluto again) often has them have very profound realizations of what true "partnership" means.

And often they recreate their ideals to complement these realizations; become more tolerant,more diplomatic,more balanced and "fair" and become very desirable partners to get involved with etc.

Now Jupiter in Aries is ever the individualistic; "I don't see it that way sir. But its fine, you can go your way and I'll go mine!".

The opposition with Jupiter in Aries creates a back/forth motion of agreeing to see things from both angles (on one hand) and then becoming completely rebellious and wanting things things to go your way(on the other)

This is like the partner who desires complete partnership with another (Venus/Pluto) in one area of life.

But may request a separate flat/bank account so that they can do things that are important for them(Jupiter in Aries) when they want to do them(no questions asked).

Venus/Jupiter generally has a lot of love to give. But my questions is; are you looking for an ideal to be manifested and then give this love(often conditionally)?

Or are you ready to receive and give love to someone who is their own person? Free from conforming to your ideals?

posted September 05, 2015 01:43 PM            

Honestly I'm past looking for an ideal...I just want someone who loves me and let's me love them for whoever they are, good or bad....as long as they love me and support me trying to achieve my personal ideal. I just want to be free to grow and be appreciated for all the love I love giving to them.
They do not have to be me or want to transform like I do, but just please don't hold me back or be jealous of me and make me feel bad for having the ability to love them more than they love me. I know few ppl can love like I do...I'm ok with that.
I need someone who doesn't feel insecure about that, I need someone who can appreciate me and how I'm different without hurting me for being that way.
Most guys feel insecure or they use me because of my desire to love...I just want someone who treats me with respect, supports and appreciates my growth.

My Venus is on my anti-Vertex and sun/moon midpoint is libra@26....I know I'm Destin to love, period!
Actually asteroid Destin falls on my Anti-Vertex and Venus! Lol

posted September 05, 2015 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You are ready ....

I think you will get what you are looking for. Just be careful about getting in your own way; asking a question and being on the "asking" for so long,that you don't "get" the answer.

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posted September 05, 2015 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I have Mars in Libra 19 and am dating someone who has Venus in Libra 19

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