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From: Wankety Wankerson
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posted September 06, 2015 11:45 PM            

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I have this placement natally and I was just reflecting on it. And I think I've thought of something that isn't really talked about when this placement comes up. It's common knowledge that saturn rules time and the 12th house sort of dissolves whatever is in it. So does having a 12th house saturn make one painfully aware of how quickly time passes and things change? I suspect that it does. I,myself, have always been painfully aware of the passing of time and the knowledge that all things come to an end is always lingering in my mind. I remember being a toddler and spending time with my grandma and realizing that this person I loved very much would someday die. This knowledge filled me with sorrow. The thing was that my grandma was healthy and didn't die for over a decade after that but I always thought about how she was old and would someday die. It's said that 12th house saturns struggle with depression and that's something I agree with. But my question is could this sadness and depression be a result of our acute awareness of the passing of time? Can any other 12th house saturns relate to what I'm saying?

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posted September 07, 2015 03:18 AM            

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I feel like saturn in the 12th is more likely to make you not aware of time as it passes and then all the sudden youre like where did all that time go? Then get some kind of ocd about time. Maybe it might make someone more aware of how life ends and all it encompasses.

I have the very same thoughts. I am always very aware of time passing, and how life gets shorter and shorter by the minute. I always think about how nothing lasts forever and one day I will die and all my loved ones will die. This is a huge cause of my depression as well. However, I am a 4h house saturn. We're both aquas, maybe were both the saturnine type rather than the uranian type.

What else does saturn do in your chart

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posted September 07, 2015 07:39 AM            

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Interesting. There must be something to this. My ex has Saturn in the 12th and he was always strangely aware of time running out in his life. It was a pretty big issue for him and didn't help his anxiety and depression..

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posted September 07, 2015 08:42 AM            

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I don't think y'all are talking about the passing of time so much as the loss of everybody and everything.

The 12H is where everything is supposed to dissolve, decay, make room for rebirth. With Saturn in this house, we may BLOCK that process, by holding onto the past, resisting change.

My Saturn Return changed me, though; I'm less depressive in general than I was when I was young. I KEENLY feel that life is short, but that awareness can be a springboard to living more fully and less apologetically, because frankly you might die today. So why not make it a good day?

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posted September 07, 2015 08:48 AM            

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posted September 07, 2015 09:01 AM            

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I have Saturn in the 9th, but I've been feeling this way for the past five/six years. Only I still dread pain. I woke up this morning, with that bowling ball sensation in my chest/solar plexus area, and I hate it. I'm still waiting for it to go away (if it does - usually when I wake up like this, there's a reason for it).

It feels like all I ever do is lose now, so I just drag myself out of bed, shower, and get into a better head space for a while, if I can. I can feel great for a while, but it always hits me again. I wanted to fill this Summer with activities, get as much out of it as possible, and that didn't happen, because of circumstances. I got upset about a month ago, and said, "Nobody was dying! I wanted to enjoy a Summer for the first time in five/six years."

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posted September 07, 2015 09:18 AM            

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posted September 07, 2015 09:34 AM            

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My daughter is currently having Saturn go through her 12th house. She is 8.

Regarding what you said about your grandma dying, she has told me a few times that she does not want me to die and has been very upset about it. I know she feels lonely also.

Is this related to the transit?

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posted September 07, 2015 10:42 AM            

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posted September 07, 2015 02:44 PM            

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I have Saturn in 12th and I can relate to what's been said about being aware of the passage of time, esp. in relation to the lives of those I love.
When I was about 8 or 9 I had a deep realization that one day my beloved older sister would be an old woman and die. That freaked me out and made me sad. Sometime after that I realized my parents would one day pass away and that was just how it goes.
Then there's my dissatisfaction with how we seem to be a time-obsessed society... run by the clock and have-to's and musts. I intensely dislike having time dictated to me by others... yes appointments and scheduling are necessary and things need to run in synchronicity for many reasons but the notion that we are unsuccessful or disrespectful if we aren't slaves to the clock is silly.
I have difficulty with time management, in case it's not obvious. lol

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posted September 08, 2015 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Insilver:
I have Saturn in 12th and I can relate to what's been said about being aware of the passage of time, esp. in relation to the lives of those I love.
When I was about 8 or 9 I had a deep realization that one day my beloved older sister would be an old woman and die. That freaked me out and made me sad. Sometime after that I realized my parents would one day pass away and that was just how it goes.
Then there's my dissatisfaction with how we seem to be a time-obsessed society... run by the clock and have-to's and musts. I intensely dislike having time dictated to me by others... yes appointments and scheduling are necessary and things need to run in synchronicity for many reasons but the notion that we are unsuccessful or disrespectful if we aren't slaves to the clock is silly.
I have difficulty with time management, in case it's not obvious. lol

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If you think about it, time management ends up giving you more time in the long run. I'm the kind of person that has terrible time management. Later im like where did all that time go Ive accomplished nothing. It would be nice not being slaves to the clock, but time still flees, no matter if you are or arent paying attention to it, so you might as well be aware of it so you can end up not wasting it.

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posted September 09, 2015 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
If you think about it, time management ends up giving you more time in the long run. I'm the kind of person that has terrible time management. Later im like where did all that time go Ive accomplished nothing. It would be nice not being slaves to the clock, but time still flees, no matter if you are or arent paying attention to it, so you might as well be aware of it so you can end up not wasting it.

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Time management is something I've struggled with my whole life though I'd like to be better at it. I see your point of having more time if I manage it better... lol hopefully one day.
It never fails though... I'm constantly surprised by how much time I think I have vs how much I actually have, I always overestimate and at the time I always think I'm right. Probably not a Saturn in 12th thing as it is a my lovely brain thing.

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posted September 11, 2015 10:20 PM            

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I had this thought once after I experienced my first death in the family at 19. My grandpa on my bio Dad's side passed away.

The thought was "now I'm on a conveyor belt towards death..... it will take a while but the belt is moving......

My final grandparent died on September 6th and now I realize that I'm the second generation alive........ bio parents still living..... my children are the third.

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posted September 13, 2015 12:52 AM            

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I completely agree with your assessment. I too have this natally and I have had the same thoughts of time passing too quickly since I was young.

When I graduated college that's when youtube and facebook and all these things started popping up. People in my age group were lapping it all up and I was panicking. My emotions were screaming "the world is moving to fast!" I just want things to stay the same for a while so that I can adjust... but things keep moving and changing. I was in my early 20's and acting like people in their 70's do when new things would come along. It's not that I don't see the value in technology. It's just that I notice how while you're so eager to get the next iphone or whatever- you never even really had the opportunity to truly immerse yourself and experience all the nooks and crannies of your old iphone. I'm a private person too so I don't feel comfortable being born in the middle of the information age explosion we're in.

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