posted September 12, 2015 02:40 AM            

And do you feel that you have similarities in your emotional reactions to someone who has Moon in Aries?

This aspect is very prominent in my life. And it has made personal relationships quite challenging.

I am often extra sensitive and can blow up when I feel slighted/offended. I shut people out and/or become very snappy and confrontational.

Add to this, my Mercury/Mars square aspect(which I would also liken to Mercury in Aries)just fuels the flame.

I often come across as someone who can get "intense" when challenged about their opinion.

How do you guys with this aspect,interact in personal relationships?

posted September 12, 2015 03:21 AM            

Even though my Moon & Mars are in an air sign and in my 4th house, I do act like an Aries Moon sometimes, especially in relationships. If I'm just friends with someone and they don't know my emotional side, it's likely they'll never see that side of me. They'll see the happy-go-lucky Gemini Moon who occasionally gets moody and retreats to her shell. It's only when I'm in a relationship with someone I care about that it comes out.

And yes, sensitivity and an awful temper are part of it. I have a tendency to just walk away from an argument if it's really intense, though if I'm being challenged or condescended in some way, I'll happily stand my ground and correct them all day long (my Mercury is in Virgo). Not sure if it's the Mars aspects or what, but I can get intensely jealous too, though it usually doesn't last very long. Luckily my Mars isn't really in an "active" sign that might do something it regrets. The worst weapon in my hands is a rather acerbic tongue.

On the plus side, Mars aspects mean that you're a very passionate person. You feel so strongly about it that you react very strongly, too. It's almost like a physical reaction - you feel it deep down, on a level where pain or hurt directly translates into anger. Sometimes it can be hard to cool that fire once it's been lit. A Moon-Mars person may feel like it's the other persons job to calm you down, to make the first apology or to make amends.

I suspect, if a Moon-Mars person could learn to tame their temper, or find a way to channel it more effectively (such as through exercise - kickboxing, anyone?), they would make a really good lawyer or advocate for a humanitarian cause - as long as it's something they feel strongly about.

posted September 12, 2015 05:39 AM            

And on that point of attracting Aries Moon people? I am attracted to them and attract them.

But it does get troublesome and combative when we step on each others' feelings

posted September 12, 2015 10:06 AM            

But that's because they're part of a T-square with Saturn and Pluto. The Saturn aspects totally tone it down.

So you'll very rarely see me get angry with someone, and especially showing that anger.

I may seethe inside but outwardly you won't get a thing. Maybe a bit of coldness/reserve.

The only person I can get truly angry at is my mother. There's a lot of irritation between us, especially from my side.

In my experience the way it manifests mostly, is that I have immense trouble combining emotional intimacy with physical intimacy. It's an either/or thing for me, although I'd like to find a way to resolve that conflict.

posted September 12, 2015 11:57 AM            

It could also be that you fear retaliation? Perhaps feeling that the opponent may overwhelm/"humiliate" you if you were to show resistance?

Pisces energy can do that, ya know. It can make someone direct their anger at themselves,beat themselves up and then suffer silently instead of taking it out on another.

But my thing is; if you feel your temperature rising or reacting defensively with every slight/rebuff(whether imploding or exploding), you are being reactionary and NOT in control.

Just because I express and another with the same combo suppresses,doesn't mean the symptoms are not the same.

The difference may be that I tend to take no prisoners when firing .But on the more passive-aggressive side, it is likely that that individual may attract someone who will use them as a punching bag.

posted September 12, 2015 12:22 PM            

I also have Mercury in Aries... I used to like kick-boxing, StubbornVirgo.

posted September 12, 2015 02:55 PM            

The minute someone touches you(regardless of the intention), you recoil/are angered by the others' assumed insensitivity to your pain.

I wonder how close your Moon/Mars aspect is because I often go from feeling to acting. And this is the similarity that I speak of with Aries Moon.

Also included is the impulsiveness,the tendency to regret reacting on a whim and even feeling overwhelmed by strong feelings of the moment that all you can do is ACT.

Emotional restraint is not my strong point. And neither is it with other Aries Moons I come into contact with.

posted September 12, 2015 05:53 PM            

My Moon is in late Gemini (28'23) and my Mars is 7 minutes into Aries, but I tend to ignore anything that aspects Mars.

Ignoring my Moon/Mars square is tough though, because it's between two personal planets and it's tight enough to be considered. In fact, it's one of my tightest aspects.

On the other hand, I am actually quite emotionally restrained in most situations. I have heard that I'm not emotionally expressive, plus my anger isn't shown outwardly.

I have noticed that my anger can be outward, but it's more often directed inward at myself. I beat myself up with logic and suffer in silence. It's much easier to direct my anger inward, because I can handle it and I'm not always sure that someone I direct my anger toward can. I can actually handle my own anger toward myself much better than someone else being angry at me, because someone else's anger doubles the effect I have on myself while also adding an external flavor of their own anger to the mix. So, if someone is mad at me, it's like Moon/Mars square from 3 people that are mad at me and expressing it at the same time.

posted September 12, 2015 06:12 PM            

Aries Moon qualities:

• Impatience and hastiness - I didn't even notice this until it was pointed out to me (by a psychologist no less). She said I want "everything to happen immediately" in regards to both emotional gratification and the practical aspects of life. Basically wanting immediate results.

• Egocentric emotional view - It takes a lot of work for me to apply the idea that people don't think and react to things the same way I do. This caused a lot of hurt for me in the past because I always treat people the way I want to be treated but I noticed others didn't. This made me feel victimized and I would think "Why do they intentionally hurt me and have no remorse whatsoever?". In reality others didn't "intentionally hurt me" - they just didn't realize doing the thing they did would hurt me at all because they themselves wouldn't be because they're different. I still struggle with this a lot and it's hard not letting things affect me (being a Scorpio Moon everything affects me...a lot)

  Also I'm not sure if Moon/Mars is the only culprit thought. I have a lot of other aspects that could lead to this - Sun/Moon conjunction, Mercury/Neptune, Mercury/Uranus.

• Easily irritated - Scorpio Moon by itself could do this. I easily get angry but I never blow up. I don't even know how to express anger. I just stay quiet and seethe.

Aries Moon qualities I don't have: Impulsiveness, assertiveness, pioneering spirit

I don't think I resemble an Aries Moon in general.

Moon/Mars is more of an internal struggle for me because I get a lot of violent emotions but I can never express them outwardly. Mars in the 4th house creates a meek person with burred anger. Leo Mars in the 4th with a Moon square is like an angry lion circling in a cage. Even if someone taunts him he can't do anything.

posted September 12, 2015 10:35 PM            

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Originally posted by meyray:

Moon/Mars is more of an internal struggle for me because I get a lot of violent emotions but I can never express them outwardly. Mars in the 4th house creates a meek person with burred anger. Leo Mars in the 4th with a Moon square is like an angry lion circling in a cage. Even if someone taunts him he can't do anything.

Another tidbit for Mars in the 4th (even if there is no Moon square) - they tend to get more aggressive and domineering to people who are closer to them (especially family)

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posted September 13, 2015 02:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
I have a Moon/Mars square. The problem is I don't know how to interpret it.

My Moon is in late Gemini (28'23) and my Mars is 7 minutes into Aries, but I tend to ignore anything that aspects Mars.

Ignoring my Moon/Mars square is tough though, because it's between two personal planets and it's tight enough to be considered. In fact, it's one of my tightest aspects.

On the other hand, I am actually quite emotionally restrained in most situations. I have heard that I'm not emotionally expressive, plus my anger isn't shown outwardly.

I have noticed that my anger can be outward, but it's more often directed inward at myself. I beat myself up with logic and suffer in silence. It's much easier to direct my anger inward, because I can handle it and I'm not always sure that someone I direct my anger toward can. I can actually handle my own anger toward myself much better than someone else being angry at me, because someone else's anger doubles the effect I have on myself while also adding an external flavor of their own anger to the mix. So, if someone is mad at me, it's like Moon/Mars square from 3 people that are mad at me and expressing it at the same time.

If I'm not angry, however, my Gemini Moon seems to communicate with my Aries Mars in a beneficial way. It's difficult to explain this, but Aries and Gemini would ordinarily make a sextile aspect, not a square. So the fact that I have a Moon/Mars square is confusing. Plus, I think I only get the real effect of my Moon/Mars square when someone else is angry at me.

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Out of sign aspects are difficult to interpret- as the energies work in an unclear/contradictory manner.

But I hear what you mean; Gemini and Aries are sextile(by relationship)so when you describe them in a "square" scenario,it gets tricky.

posted September 13, 2015 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by meyray:
Aries Moon qualities I don't have:

-Impulsiveness, assertiveness, pioneering spirit.

I don't think I resemble an Aries Moon in general.

Moon/Mars is more of an internal struggle for me because I get a lot of violent emotions but I can never express them outwardly.

Mars in the 4th house creates a meek person with burred anger.

Leo Mars in the 4th with a Moon square is like an angry lion circling in a cage. Even if someone taunts him he can't do anything.

Another tidbit for Mars in the 4th (even if there is no Moon square) - they tend to get more aggressive and domineering to people who are closer to them (especially family)

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It really makes sense to say that Moon/Mars square is an internal struggle. I can second that. After all, it is a square relationship.

I think what I am leaning more towards,is the similarity in approach with Aries Moon(by default).

With Aries Moon there is no "internal struggle",the goal is clear and within reach. Hence the assertiveness.

With the square,there is discomfort and a need for "relief". So one "acts" to make things right; to control the circumstances externally(or internally) so that the emotional intent is clear and unambiguous.

With the latter position, the assertiveness results not because of intent but because of dissatisfaction with the base feeling(square).

So a Moon in Aries will oppose something separate from them because they don't see it being right.

But a Moon/Mars square will oppose something that touches them on a personal level because it grates/irritates them(in some way).

The former projects its intentions externally,whilst the latter looks to have the external blend with the internal- to make it more satisfactory.

You will find the Aries Moon speaking out on things that they may have no personal interest in. Because that is what they do, they want to be themselves and be free to express an opinion (when they choose).

The Moon/Mars square will definitely be more vocal in things that they have a vested personal interest in.

They are most unlikely to speak up against something that they do not feel emotional strong about.

But both have the feelings of the self(Moon) in mind.

In any case,I don't really want to prove the point of them being similar really. I just want to know how one deals with this square successfully in close relationships.

I don't think I have succeeded much in accommodating another(in a relationship), because of my tendency to self preserve when I enter into it.

I see the "other" as separate from me. And when hurt, I retaliate as if indeed they were separate and had ill intentions for me from the start

posted September 13, 2015 03:44 AM            

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Originally posted by bananaz:
I knew a man who used to physically abuse his wife with mars opposite moon. He's not a bad man, he just had issues. Now he uses exercise/medicine to cope. He's so calm in person, you would never know. I think the moon/mars issues stem from parental abuse as well.

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