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Topic: Have you ever met anyone with a Sun/Pluto combust? What were they like?
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8902 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 13, 2015 11:31 PM
Where they Plutonian or was their Pluto non existent and burned up by the Sun? IP: Logged |
diamondbaby Knowflake Posts: 754 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 13, 2015 11:50 PM
I know a man with Sun/Pluto on the same degree in Scorpio and the 12th house. He is very very Plutonian.------------------ "Stars are the street lights of eternity." IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8902 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 13, 2015 11:54 PM
Thank you! How close is the conjunction?
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12muddy Knowflake Posts: 3045 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted September 14, 2015 12:06 AM
My best friend's fiance has sun conj pluto exact, in scorpio. He's plutonian in some ways - like he's very perceptive and tends to dig into people's minds. But he's not the dark brooding, obsessive, possessive kind. Friendly, bright and pleasant to be around. Has a great sense of humor, a wonderful potty mouth, good use of colourful language (which he keeps for special people, like me lol)I like spending time with him, talking about random cr*p. It's great fun. I've just realize that this is cazimi, not combust. Ignore my reply lol. IP: Logged |
Brontex Knowflake Posts: 259 From: Registered: May 2013
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posted September 14, 2015 12:10 AM
How strictly do you define "combust?"IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8902 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 14, 2015 09:45 AM
I personally say 0-5 degrees if I believe combusts are truly debilitating at all. My Merc is combust my sun 0 degree, I'm not sure I see the negative aspects of the combust in my chart.But I have a friend who's Merc/Pluto is libra@1.40/1.42 Sun virgo@29.....I see something in him though. I'm trying to figure it out. My Merc rises before my Sun, they say that weakens the debilitating power of the Sun. That might be why I don't feel it. IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 14, 2015 10:41 AM
My mother has this with her asc at 18 virgo, Pluto 25 virgo and Sun 27 virgo. She's perceptive, psychological transformation is very much a part of her personality. She doesn't openly brood at least around everyday people. She's more private about her low emotional moments. She's not very mis-trusting at times I feel she acts more naive than others. She has too much faith in the good in people as opposed to the bad. She has self-destructive tendencies if she's not caring for someone else or helping someone else. IP: Logged |
3l3n Knowflake Posts: 892 From: Registered: Nov 2014
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posted September 14, 2015 11:02 AM
I have a friend with this combustion in Libra. After maturing and freeing herself from her fathers tactic to support/control her throughout the years with a powerful manipulating strategy, I see she has taken up this role with the people around her. it's in her 11th house. The narcissism combined with a manipulating tactic has made her very popular these past years, and it seems like she's loving it. But I think she has to start using it in a more healthier way
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 14, 2015 11:07 AM
I won't go on at length as you know me already. If it counts, I have sun/Pluto in parallel which is supposed to be the same as a conjunction. IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1378 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 14, 2015 11:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by diamondbaby: I know a man with Sun/Pluto on the same degree in Scorpio and the 12th house. He is very very Plutonian.
Yeah, I know a guy with Sun conj. Pluto in Scorpio in the 12th (4 deg.). As Plutonian as it gets. I still don't really understand the combust.. Mostly because I haven't seen its effects. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8902 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 14, 2015 11:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: My mother has this with her asc at 18 virgo, Pluto 25 virgo and Sun 27 virgo. She's perceptive, psychological transformation is very much a part of her personality. She doesn't openly brood at least around everyday people. She's more private about her low emotional moments. She's not very mis-trusting at times I feel she acts more naive than others. She has too much faith in the good in people as opposed to the bad. She has self-destructive tendencies if she's not caring for someone else or helping someone else.
Interesting!! The guy I'm talking about sounds very much like your mom. He's very alpha male but also very innocent and naive in some ways, or so it seems. "To much faith in the good of ppl", he has that quality to!! I see the Pluto but it plays out sooo differently than say my Pluto conjunct AC, which makes me powerful but also very untrusting. He doesn't have that "attack" quality that most plutonians have....he has the fears but they come out in a very docile, skiddish way. He emotionally freaks out, but there's not the power behind it. When I freak out I don't show my vulnerability I get quiet and start backing away and watching instead of engaging. He gets scared and acts out...in a very obviously vulnerable way. It's like the strength of Pluto is so different with him, the quiet strength and cautious nature just isn't there.
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ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 14, 2015 11:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Interesting!! The guy I'm talking about sounds very much like your mom. He's very alpha male but also very innocent and naive in some ways, or so it seems. "To much faith in the good of ppl", he has that quality to!! I see the Pluto but it plays out sooo differently than say my Pluto conjunct AC, which makes me powerful but also very untrusting. He doesn't have that "attack" quality that most plutonians have....he has the fears but they come out in a very docile, skiddish way. He emotionally freaks out, but there's not the power behind it. When I freak out I don't show my vulnerability I get quiet and start backing away and watching instead of engaging. He gets scared and acts out...in a very obviously vulnerable way. It's like the strength of Pluto is so different with him, the quiet strength and cautious nature just isn't there.
She acts out when things aren't in her control or at least some what in her control. From what I have heard about her from when she was younger she was more untrusting and that "attack" quality was more present. She won't show vulnerability unless it's a serious emotional state i.e. when she had a break down. Then again she has a Cap moon so that could be a factor. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8902 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 14, 2015 11:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by 3l3n: I have a friend with this combustion in Libra. After maturing and freeing herself from her fathers tactic to support/control her throughout the years with a powerful manipulating strategy, I see she has taken up this role with the people around her. it's in her 11th house. The narcissism combined with a manipulating tactic has made her very popular these past years, and it seems like she's loving it. But I think she has to start using it in a more healthier way
Ya, she sounds very immature!! That's not good at all, she'd better watch out Pluto will eat her up for that! Well, maybe...IF the combust theory is true and it weakens Pluto, Pluto might not have the power to eat her up.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8902 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 14, 2015 11:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: I won't go on at length as you know me already. If it counts, I have sun/Pluto in parallel which is supposed to be the same as a conjunction.
Do you feel your Pluto? Do think your deeply Plutonian? IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8902 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 14, 2015 11:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: She acts out when things aren't in her control or at least some what in her control. From what I have heard about her from when she was younger she was more untrusting and that "attack" quality was more present. She won't show vulnerability unless it's a serious emotional state i.e. when she had a break down. Then again she has a Cap moon so that could be a factor.
Sounds like Pluto but a more matured Pluto! IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 14, 2015 12:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Do you feel your Pluto? Do think your deeply Plutonian?
I think so. Sometimes it's difficult to define for me. It's also conjunct asc like yours. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8902 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 14, 2015 01:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: I think so. Sometimes it's difficult to define for me. It's also conjunct asc like yours.
Hmmm....that would be an issue! Is your Pluto before or after your Sun? IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 14, 2015 02:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Hmmm....that would be an issue! Is your Pluto before or after your Sun?
Before. (First house side) IP: Logged |
Aquarian Moon Knowflake Posts: 324 From: USA Registered: Jan 2015
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posted September 14, 2015 08:58 PM
Don't quote because I will edit this later. I have a friend with the conjunction. She is one of the kindest, most spiritual people I have ever met. She is also highly clairvoyant. She is a medium and is often visited by spirits passing through, known and not. But when she was younger, watch out. She grew up in a seriously tough neighborhood. It was violent, and she often had to throw down to get respect. She was involved in several fist fights with other girls who approached her, testing whether she would flee or fight. She'd fight every time. She also has Jupiter square Pluto. She has matured, but the theme of taking control and losing control is a common occurrence in her life. I have the parallel. I cannot say that I had her kind of upbringing, but it was still tough. My neighborhood was not as bad as hers, but it was not great. I was certainly being tested by my peers, but I was good at ignoring them. They pale in comparison somethings that were happening at the time. I won't go into detail, but the theme of power and control has always been present in my life. Even as an adult, both Sun and Pluto are in my 6th house so there was an occurrence where my reaction to something being done to me at work obliterated our work place as we knew it. It changed dramatically after my former boss fired everyone and decided to not have employees, deciding to contract out his work and collecting a percentage. I felt like an exploding dragon, but even though my workplace was destroyed, I felt powerless and was depressed because everything changed. I wished I didn't have that meltdown. I blamed myself even though I was the victim. This was also during my Saturn return. Yep, so Sun/Pluto. IP: Logged |
roseelima16 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: Feb 2017
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posted February 17, 2017 08:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Where they Plutonian or was their Pluto non existent and burned up by the Sun?
Despite I'm kind of late for this thread, I still think it's valuable to remember that not all close conjunctions to the Sun are considered "combustion". Actually, there are 3 types of solar conjunctions based on the degree: 1) Cazimi (which is considered an accidental dignity): 0-17' 2) Combustion (which is considered a serious accidental debility): 17' to 8 degrees 3) Sunbeams (which is considered a mild accidental debility): 8 to 15 degrees Technically, if the conjunction is exact or almost exact (up to 17') it's not considered combustion but a CAZIMI, therefore, it's not a debility but an accidental dignity. I'm leaving two links that explain the difference among those conjunctions here: http://therealastrology.com/information/classical-astrology/228-combust-planets.html https://astralvisions.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/cazimi-under-the-sunbeams-combust-the-conjunctions-of-the-sun/ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76364 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 21, 2017 03:21 PM
Not even the Sun can overshadow Pluto.IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3000 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted February 21, 2017 04:24 PM
I knew a Libra with this. Sun - 14 Libra Pluto - 14 Libra Didn't see the Pluto in him at all. Though he did attack me verbally once, which is something I've experience with most Libras. He also has Moon conj Asc in the 1st house. Oddly, there was something about him that I mistrusted. He was so good looking, yet easily/instantly attracted to me. That made me not trust him. Met him during pMoon in Scorpio. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6401 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 21, 2017 06:45 PM
Pewdiepie has Sun in Scorpio conjunct Pluto, super famous. (Comedian who loves dark humor and is like a big child who plays lots of video games, Moon in Leo I highly suspect, TOB unknown).Aubyanne, you know one of our IA moderators has Sun in Libra conjunct Pluto. Neither have a cazimi though but I think both of their conjunctions are under 8d. IP: Logged |
Sagical Knowflake Posts: 281 From: Glenbow, Canada Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 06, 2017 05:12 PM
My dad had this in Cancer. Sun Pluto conj opposite his Capricorn moon. He was possessive and over protective of me. We fought some.....Runs in the family. My much dreaded birth mother had it Conj in Leo.... very toxic and venomous woman.... a hateful lady. I have a nephew with it conj in Sagittarius and I don't know how he turned out. Not only is it a conj aspect but an opposing aspect as well. My oldest daughter is a Gemini with Sun/Saturn conj opposing Pluto in Sagittarius. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 567 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 07, 2017 04:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: My mother has this with her asc at 18 virgo, Pluto 25 virgo and Sun 27 virgo. She's perceptive, psychological transformation is very much a part of her personality. She doesn't openly brood at least around everyday people. She's more private about her low emotional moments. She's not very mis-trusting at times I feel she acts more naive than others. She has too much faith in the good in people as opposed to the bad. She has self-destructive tendencies if she's not caring for someone else or helping someone else.
My Father is a Leo sun conjunct pluto exact, but has mercury in Virgo, he is like this very much. I've seen he will be in self-destruction than try to strike back. The only Leo tendency I've seen is when he brags about his children (although we dislike being exposed, he keeps doing it), other than that he tend to show his cancer venus and aqua moon (no aspect to his sun/pluto) in the family. He usually is a carefree but can be so controlling at times especially if the family deals with problems. He can have strong forces in an argument and intense but never with his family. He is a very much a family man. But I think he is in Cazimi category. IP: Logged |