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next to neptune
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posted September 17, 2015 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like I get so easily irritated by people... but most importantly, I feel like people really think that I'm irritating too. I've never felt like people really liked me from the first time meeting me. Maybe some boys... but at least every girl I've ever met seems to either hate me or be totally indifferent about me.

I don't feel like I've got any real female-friends at the moment, but I've always had "friends". Only that I don't actually think they have been true friends, but just someone I followed around and tried to make them like me lol... but no one ever really took an initiative of being my friend.


Aaaaaand then just look at my natal chart.

I'm a virgo sun (they are always critical, negative and irritating)
Cancer ascendant (Moody, depressive, negative)
Pisces moon (don't know who they are, confused and personality disorders lol) - My moon is very afflicted too.

Libra mercury - A nice placement you would think, but my mercury is retrograde and square neptune/saturn/uranus. <--- freaking annoying person.

Scorpio venus --- OMG this is the most hated placement ever

The rest of my chart is pretty much just capricorn... which is the most depressing and negative sign ever.

So yeah, you get the picture...

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Soltze
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posted September 17, 2015 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have the first house ruler opposite the 11th ruler.
Pretty obvious there is a mismatch...

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astra7
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posted September 17, 2015 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, your 11th H (friends) ruled by Mars in Virgo!! arrgggh....so they are critical. It's not your imagination. It's them!! lol

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posted September 17, 2015 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astra7:
Well, your 11th H (friends) ruled by Mars in Virgo!! arrgggh....so they are critical. It's not your imagination. It's them!! lol

What do you mean exactly? That other people just get more irritated by me than they do with others? Cause that's what it feels like...

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hannaramaa
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posted September 17, 2015 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo Sun with Cancer and Pisces doesn't have to be as annoying as you described. They have the potential to be incredibly shrewd in business matters, personable, and caring to the point of being empathic. It'd be beneficial for this person to be around people who are gentle and communicative, they need a "safe" place otherwise youll probably see the more negative traits come out when stressed.

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hypatia238
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posted September 17, 2015 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every time you start a thread you get tons of replies so you seem to be liked a lot here which goes against what you are saying.

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posted September 17, 2015 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
What do you mean exactly? That other people just get more irritated by me than they do with others? Cause that's what it feels like...

In other words, it's not you, the fault lies with them!

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posted September 17, 2015 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Every time you start a thread you get tons of replies so you seem to be liked a lot here which goes against what you are saying.

Really?:S Well maybe it's because it's just "online" not in real person... people cannot feel the energy I give out, as they could if they saw me in real life... I think I have a very negative energy apparently...

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posted September 17, 2015 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female friendships are usually indicated by the moon. You have a very strong lunar influence on your chart (Cancer rising, Moon at the apex of the chart), but your moon only receives difficult aspects- which means that your relationships with female figures can be very strained.

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posted September 17, 2015 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by socialgraffiti:
Female friendships are usually indicated by the moon. You have a very strong lunar influence on your chart (Cancer rising, Moon at the apex of the chart), but your moon only receives difficult aspects- which means that your relationships with female figures can be very strained.

Yeah it truly feels like that a lot... whenever I get really close (with a female) trouble starts as well somehow... I don't really know why it is so difficult to just have a friend....

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posted September 17, 2015 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Yeah it truly feels like that a lot... whenever I get really close (with a female) trouble starts as well somehow... I don't really know why it is so difficult to just have a friend....

I think this may be because of the tight square from Uranus to the Moon. So females may suddenly enter and exit from your life, or in a friendship, one of you shows indifference.

I have the conjunction by less than a degree, so I understand.

10th house moon can indicate popularity online (MC rules online persona), which I think explains @hypatia's observation, or in career.

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athenaia
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posted September 17, 2015 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, you are super hard on yourself. I think this is the Chiron/ASC talking - lots of self-defeating beliefs about oneself.

You have Sun/Mars which can certainly make for a forceful personality, and sure, Virgo can be an "acquired taste" for some people (not everyone likes to obsess over the micro-aspect of things and prefer to bask in the macro, something Virgo's find counter-productive to perfectionism), but you have an otherwise decent chart!

Everyone in our generation is going to have that Uranus/Neptune/Saturn combination in Capricorn so really I would say, "let's ignore this for now", however, it is important because you have ASC/Chiron/Jupiter in Cancer so these planets are extra stressed when it comes to both
1.) people's initial perceptions of you and
2.) the way in which you relate to other people

You also have your South Node in the 3rd house so people take your disinterest in the meaningless chore of small talk as "she doesn't give a **** about what I have to say" (even if it really is a mindless comment over something mundane) so that's why you've always lacked a good foundation to building friendships. This is especially important when it comes to relating to other women, because (generally speaking) most women prefer to discuss things revolving around their lives, instead of their interests/intellectual concepts on an objective scale, which you probably have a preference for with that air Mercury.

Not only do you have a Scorpio Venus but you have it conjunct Pluto
Then I gotta mention that Chiron/ASC in Cancer
and THEN you have a Pisces Moon (in the 29th degree at that)
So that combative and supposedly "hypercritical" (to take the most negative descriptions of Virgo's out there) Sun and Moon combination is opposite this very emotional Moon...

You probably run EXTREMELY hot and cold all the time and people have no idea what to expect from you. Without meaning to, your very existence is dramatic, and sometimes that's "too much" for people to want to invest in, hence the backing off, hence the lack of longterm friendships

If I were to offer constructive criticism, I would say temper the energies of your Sun/Mars into something productive for both yourself, as well as to other people. Every time you want to offer a comment to someone, consider, is this thoughtful and kind? Are they the kind of person that can handle the type of truth that I would prefer to hear given to me?
Then turn it on yourself. Instead of thinking "I'm so irritating", try switching it to, "I know I may not be everyone's cup of tea, but that's okay."

There's a saying that goes, "you could be the ripest, most delicious peach in the world, but there's still going to be someone that doesn't like peaches"

My second offer of constructive criticism, learn to love Chiron. Work on the energies of Chiron within yourself. I would say this Chiron/ASC aspect can best be characterized by you being your own worst critic, and you being your worst enemy. Do not be wounded, be the healer within yourself. Regenerate every time a self defeating thought pops up instead of diminishing yourself. You only have one life to live! Gas yourself up. Be your own hypeman. Know your worth -- then add taxes to it!

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posted September 18, 2015 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by athenaia:
Wow, you are super hard on yourself. I think this is the Chiron/ASC talking - lots of self-defeating beliefs about oneself.

You have Sun/Mars which can certainly make for a forceful personality, and sure, Virgo can be an "acquired taste" for some people (not everyone likes to obsess over the micro-aspect of things and prefer to bask in the macro, something Virgo's find counter-productive to perfectionism), but you have an otherwise decent chart!

Everyone in our generation is going to have that Uranus/Neptune/Saturn combination in Capricorn so really I would say, "let's ignore this for now", however, it is important because you have ASC/Chiron/Jupiter in Cancer so these planets are extra stressed when it comes to both
1.) people's initial perceptions of you and
2.) the way in which you relate to other people

You also have your South Node in the 3rd house so people take your disinterest in the meaningless chore of small talk as "she doesn't give a **** about what I have to say" (even if it really is a mindless comment over something mundane) so that's why you've always lacked a good foundation to building friendships. This is especially important when it comes to relating to other women, because (generally speaking) most women prefer to discuss things revolving around their lives, instead of their interests/intellectual concepts on an objective scale, which you probably have a preference for with that air Mercury.

Not only do you have a Scorpio Venus but you have it conjunct Pluto
Then I gotta mention that Chiron/ASC in Cancer
and THEN you have a Pisces Moon (in the 29th degree at that)
So that combative and supposedly "hypercritical" (to take the most negative descriptions of Virgo's out there) Sun and Moon combination is opposite this very emotional Moon...

You probably run EXTREMELY hot and cold all the time and people have no idea what to expect from you. Without meaning to, your very existence is dramatic, and sometimes that's "too much" for people to want to invest in, hence the backing off, hence the lack of longterm friendships

If I were to offer constructive criticism, I would say temper the energies of your Sun/Mars into something productive for both yourself, as well as to other people. Every time you want to offer a comment to someone, consider, is this thoughtful and kind? Are they the kind of person that can handle the type of truth that I would prefer to hear given to me?
Then turn it on yourself. Instead of thinking "I'm so irritating", try switching it to, "I know I may not be everyone's cup of tea, but that's okay."

There's a saying that goes, "you could be the ripest, most delicious peach in the world, but there's still going to be someone that doesn't like peaches"

My second offer of constructive criticism, learn to love Chiron. Work on the energies of Chiron within yourself. I would say this Chiron/ASC aspect can best be characterized by you being your own worst critic, and you being your worst enemy. Do not be wounded, be the healer within yourself. Regenerate every time a self defeating thought pops up instead of diminishing yourself. You only have one life to live! Gas yourself up. Be your own hypeman. Know your worth -- then add taxes to it!


Thanks a lot for answering.... I think you have some good point... allthough, I'm not sure about how much influence my scorp venus really got, and it's 9 degrees from pluto, so it's not really a conjunction... venus is also my least dominate planet I think. But maybe this also tells a little about how little I can relate to "women" stuff... I mean, I think I can be good at smalltalking sometimes, but it's just that I'm also afraid that I can't hold a conversation....it's also a social anxiety thing I suffer from...

but otherwise, great inputs and I think you are very right

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