posted September 28, 2015 07:43 AM            

He's one of a few remarkably spiritual, in-tune people in my family - and they all have/ had Pisces moons. Is this a major sign that someone is going to reach the spirit world in their lifetimes?

posted September 28, 2015 10:18 AM            

I came here expecting to talk about one thing, but now I see, I should talk about something else.

Well first, about these terms...

To me, spirituality is how one lives within a higher vibration. The way one's spirituality is exhibited changes as they ascend.

Faith can mean anything from mere optimism to a concrete set of expectations based on what we know about spiritual "physics:" if this, then (most likely) that.

Faith means something different in religious contexts, of course. Then, there are qualifiers attached to it, ie "If you satisfy God's requirements or if He is favoring you for his own special reasons, then you will see His goodness." I've had that kind of faith before, but no longer think this way at all.

Spirituality has qualifiers that are more within one's control, ie "If you follow these steps to enlightenment, you will have enlightenment." Buddhism appeals to me, because this is its essential thrust.

But spirituality can also come naturally, as when people are born sensitive. Which is the case with the Pisces moon, which I have (but wasn't planning on discussing when I clicked here.)

From the time I was young, I just naturally started experiencing what the people in my surroundings were experiencing. I'm not saying our experiences were identical (because how would anyone know that?) But if I saw a person who was sad, I became sad in my own way. If I saw they were rejected, desperate, distracted...whatever they were...I just naturally lived that feeling side-by-side with them.

Long story short, I didn't have to be taught certain religious principles, because they were inborn. Generosity, forgiveness, empathy...all inborn.

But I don't consider this VERY spiritual.

I do believe that anyone can become very spiritual, the seed of that potential exists within all of us, and the chart is kind of obsolete in this research....though it may show a head start, or a handicap that makes one's spiritual journey more challenging.

Edit:

And to honor what you were saying about Pisces moons...a quote by one and a song by another

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posted September 28, 2015 01:26 PM            

Pisces, yes, they are closest to God.
Their mantra is "I Believe"
They can't explain why because it has to do with faith.

I know someone (late Pisces) like that too who dealt with a personal death in such a calm, knowing, and accepting manner.

Honestly, I still cry when I think about what she went through.

She still lives within (her) God's grace.

posted September 28, 2015 01:29 PM            

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posted September 28, 2015 02:35 PM            

Pisces Pallas Sign
Pallas Athena in Pisces deals with the fantastic, the mystical and the interpretation of reality. They may be psychic healers, using techniques like guided imagery, fantasy and the interpretation of dreams. Meditation, spirit guides and other spiritual practices may serve them well. They are poetic and inspirational. They have a way with light and shadow and ethereal sounds that speak to the inner being. They are fans of non-violent resistance and pacifism. They are also willing to give themselves for the cause. They are compassionate and want to heal the universal suffering.

posted September 28, 2015 02:47 PM            

The Dalai Lama.....
The Dalai Lama (July 6, 1935; 4:38 am; Takster, Tibet) has Vesta in Pisces and it's located right on his Midheaven. An angular Vesta placement like this makes the holy man a Vesta person. We can see that his entire life is devoted to his Buddhism and promoting the basic human value of compassion. The Dalai Lama's Vesta in Pisces shines out like a spiritual beacon to the rest of the world, and he's earned his reputation (Midheaven) as one of the great spiritual leaders of our time.

As a Vesta personality, the Dalai Lama has remained unmarried his entire life. His Vesta is closely tied into his karmic path since it forms a trine to Pluto which is conjunct his South Node. In this case, Pluto here signifies the absolute power he has in Tibet's political affairs, and with the trine to Vesta in Pisces, it's based on his religious standing as the reincarnation of the previous 13 Dalai Lamas.

posted September 28, 2015 03:00 PM            

As you build confidence, you feel less at the mercy of overwhelming forces, and more in charge of your destiny.

You may end up being a devotee of a spiritual path, since it lends form to the pursuit of divine union. You find a purposeful path as an artist, since it turns your imagination into tangible forms. You have gifts in symbolic expression. With effort, your talents translate to success in the arts, music, dance and drama. You are a dutiful, compassionate friend that goes the extra mile for beings in need (human or animal).

posted September 28, 2015 03:58 PM            

* Psychic ability/ telepathy/ remote viewing/ Reiki, medical intuition, etc.
* Healing touch/ high level of chi
* Magical power/ telekinesis
* Meditative abilities
* Tantric power
* Mediumship/ channeling
* Affecting auras, lifting vibrations deliberately

Some other things I have seen, but it would take too long to describe, and I'm leery of seeming like I know more than I actually do. But all of the skills above require discipline and training, and that's the first thing that comes to mind for me, when I think of someone being VERY spiritual.

posted September 29, 2015 04:44 AM            

I never thought of looking at Neptune, oddly --- which makes PERFECT sense. I need to draw up his chart (my sister has it somewhere). I knew he had Pisces moon, but the Neptune in his chart would also probably connect him to the spirit world too.

I think there's a much different chart makeup for those who are 'delusional' in their spirituality (Something I think is very tangible when youre around people like that), and people with just genuine, unshakeable FAITH.

posted September 29, 2015 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Cappi112:
I assume a lot of 12th and 8th house stuff too -- but I want to focus more on faith, rather than psychic ties. Altho I guess they sometimes go hand in hand...

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Pisces are more natural to be spiritually in tune with the right/wrong good/evil in people/the world as a whole.
As far as a faith, I would say Virgo or Scorpio; they will dig due to circumstances from past/present and stick with one faith for the future. Doesn't have to be the same faith from past.

Sorry for your loss.

posted September 30, 2015 04:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

To me, spirituality is how one lives within a higher vibration. The way one's spirituality is exhibited changes as they ascend....

....I do believe that anyone can become very spiritual, the seed of that potential exists within all of us, and the chart is kind of obsolete in this research....though it may show a head start, or a handicap that makes one's spiritual journey more challenging.

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Seriously, this is more about spiritual evolution; that which cannot be seen just by glancing at a chart (and picking out as many Neptune/Piscean/12th house placements as one can find)...

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Pisces, yes, they are closest to God.

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As a general statement, they are no closer to God than any of the other 11 zodiac signs...

posted September 30, 2015 07:37 AM            

Not to veer too far off course, but this is something I've seen a LOT in my family. So many born-agains, or people who were one faith and then converted to a different one only to be completely devout to that faith....

posted September 30, 2015 08:49 AM            

I was raised Catholic, started protesting under my breath from the time I was about four years old, became agnostic after my mother's death at age 14. At age 22 I became very religious, decided to take the Bible literally. At the time, transiting Neptune and Uranus were in Aquarius, affecting my Mercury and progressed sun.

Interestingly, the two men who were central to that conversion were a Pisces sun and a Pisces moon-Venus. (I didn't know about the moon-Venus at the time, I only got serious about astrology in 2011, shortly before I joined here.)

Anyway, in that case I have to say that Neptune issues were prominent with those men and to a lesser extent the people they influenced. There was a willingness to accept fantastical stories wholeheartedly and yet couch the importance of these stories in convincing, meticulous logic. (Both men are academically brilliant.)

As if Neptune could not see how Neptunian it was! And without that blind spot, I'm not sure how their faith could persist, because the logic would have taken over. But they were so comfortable with Neptune, so resigned to it, they just made faith (which in this context translates to "whatever Christianity dictates, I accept") central to their lives. It's unplugging one's own logical apparatus and plugging in the logic of Christian luminaries, who had done the same thing with the logic of their own predecessors.

It was very hard for me, snapping out of that spell. It meant a lot of sacrifice was going to have to be made. I don't want to get into it but feel compelled to present a case on behalf of atheism Atheists also have a kind of faith ~ it's faith in the consistency of phenomena, and the guiding light of human reasoning to come to terms with those phenomena. Some atheists are also prepared to accept things that are subtle and spiritual, like astrology.

This faith can also encourage people to be good to their fellow living beings. Atheism has an undeserved stigma to it that I think needs to be reversed as quickly as possible. Just think of all the religious wars that would cease entirely if the people took up atheism?

Peace.

posted September 30, 2015 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
This.

Seriously, this is more about spiritual evolution; that which cannot be seen just by glancing at a chart (and picking out as many Neptune/Piscean/12th house placements as one can find)...

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Thanks, and I agree.

As I was saying above, Neptune can be a fog and blockage that prevents people from taking their spiritual evolution seriously. And it can make a person blind to all the tools one is given in this life, to cultivate and strengthen their spirit.

The Christians I mentioned in my post above truly believed that prayer sanctified whatever they ate, so their diets suffered, and their temperament could often be a reflection of their diet. Regardless of how well they knew the Bible verses about kindness, a bad case of heartburn could make them quite snappy.