posted September 29, 2015 03:34 PM            

I've always felt very mystical and I never knew why - didn't know my true chart for so long. The only thing I could plainly see was my Jupiter con Neptune. But my spirituality felt bigger than this one aspect.

• Neptune rules my 3rd...
• Neptune con Asc. (10 deg. may be too wide) ?
• 12th house ruler in the 1st con Neptune...
• Ruler of my Sun (2nd house) in 12th...
• SN in 12th...
• 12th and 1st ruled by Jupiter

It has been very hard all my life to understand who I am. I've secretly felt far removed from most. Always connecting with a higher pull, but guarding this feeling to avoid scrutiny. So I embrace being a loner with every fiber of my being (Saturn 11th) Home is my refuge (Moon 4th) But when I need to connect to life I seek nature. I feel weightless on cloudy, cool and/or rainy days. I'm slowly embracing meditation. There's a combustion of bliss that I can't explain and I have no one to share these feelings with.

But if I must be honest, I get so lifted in fantasy that I have NO true footing in reality. And it hurts me. I feel so lost. And I'm sure I'm writing this now because Saturn is officially in my 12th house. But whatever I need to share this. For those who understand the Neptune influence of your chart, I just need to hear you out and hopefully not feel so disconnected from living above the fog. It feels so good, so spiritual and yet as nebulous as its defined.

posted September 29, 2015 04:22 PM            

Sometimes it is difficult to pull yourself out of these moods, and then again sometimes you just need to wallow in it.

This keeps you in touch with your awareness and understanding of the feelings of other people.

posted September 29, 2015 04:54 PM            

Such a deep intimacy for the infinite, that it flows through you in whatever you do.. That you begin to find a deep beauty in the smallest things, knowing that to even take a breath links back to the simple fact that things had to be just perfect in order for this kind of experience to even exist.. To know that even being able to experience what it means to have this body was all only possible under the perfect and rare way that the infinite put things together.. To know how rare it is that seemingly simple things exist.. And, to know, it was all possible under the infinite.

To take in every experience, knowing that regardless of what it is, it is all just another perspective for your soul to see. To find beauty in your experiences, knowing the perfection of the infinite is what brought them to you.

I completely understand where you are coming from though. It can be hard to turn all of this into something tangible.. And I think that is partly because, some of it isn't possible to really make tangible, in the simplest ways.

I also have a really hard time understanding myself, and why I'm here.. Where I may be going.. Even, who I am. It can be extremely confusing. Luckily, I'm in a position where I am able to really explore my interests as much as possible right now, while having most of what I need provided to me.

However, even in that, it can be hard to find a way to use this energy. Sometimes it feels like things are going nowhere, and that can be frustrating.

All I can say, is don't be afraid to explore yourself.. Don't be afraid to take risks (I feel that Neptune can have this problem sometimes..).. Honestly, I am going to say that I think it IS going to be hard for most of us to find a way to put this energy to use.. But, I believe that once we do, we will completely immerse our entire souls into whatever it is we learn to use this energy for.

posted September 29, 2015 05:05 PM            

My Neptune is in the 12th House conjunct Jupiter and making a T-Square with My Sun and Moon.

Until recently I felt swept away by life, unsure of who I might be and why I feel so incredibly sad…that was the hardest part: A Neptunian Longing that can't be fulfilled, ruining every relationship, always letting me fall to the floor head on.
Strange people haunting my life, with their painful addictions they got me involved in, abusing my inability to draw any lines.

Then there was this breakthrough moment: When I realized that really everything in this universe is connected, in a subtle but powerful way, that is love itself, in it's highest octave. It's where we come from and where we return to.
So there is no absolute loneliness. It's just a temporary state of mind that comes and goes, because our bodily self is too limited to receive all that it's surrounded by.

For the first time I looked deeper into chart analysis - and learned about the 12th House issues and this tough connection with my luminaries.

And from the moment on I embraced Neptune, the haunting stopped, because it was just me all the time, being desperate about a loss I couldn't understand.
I also got aware about the losses of all my ancestors that came to the surface in my family.
And, like you, I love the cloudy, foggy lonely walks where I lose myself completly … sometimes I wander across town and forget about time, about everything, and just float in that moment, feeling connected to every small and beautiful detail, a glance of someone walking by, light falling on the broken face of a building, the sounds of the street.
And the sea…I could listen to it forever.

posted September 29, 2015 05:14 PM            

You articulate yourself in such a Piscean way - the flow of your words sound poetic from beginning to end. Idk how weighty your chart is with Neptune but wow, I love it.

I love the beauty of Neptune. Writing poetry. Connecting to nature. Having genuine empathy and sympathy for the hurt and afflicted. Being an ear and an aid. Deep respect for the elderly and the meek. Soul love with a companion. Tranquility in various forms. I wholeheartedly accept the compassion for humanity and the longing to reach my highest level of consciousness. And with that I love the good but in turn must cope with the bad. And I'm hoping, to harness my flights of fancy much better. I see my NN in the 6th beaming at me to travel the dark tunnel and come out in the other side. Get planted and organized in life. Truly get into servitude. You meet me - A Sagittarius Asc with a fun competitive Aries Moon and you wouldn't know how deep my waters are. I think soon enough ppl will see this Neptunian energy much much more. Neptune transiting my 3rd now, I can no longer hide this old soul aura.

Thank you for sharing beautiful and true words.

posted September 29, 2015 05:20 PM            

Somehow, with your NN in 6th you are here to put your beautiful and spiritual feelings and being in day to day life. You say you go out in nature and that is one way of earthing and grounding you. The best I would say!! Let it be there where you can connect to others, life, animals, the universe, the kosmos. It doesn't have to be directly face to face. But do it consciously. Use the earth to feel grounded first. Hug trees, walk bare foot in the woods. A lot of grounding exercises will help too. Dancing? Activating the lower chakra's will make you feel connected in the here and now. Meditating would not be my advise at first. Read up on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd chakra's. Third chakra is your power place. If you are lost you can find it there.

What is your desired outcome? You feeling connected?

posted September 29, 2015 05:27 PM            

I will say this, reading the insight of you guys just placed me in a "calgon take me away" space. I mean, the beauty in conveying yourself resonates for me. And wow

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"There is no absolute loneliness it's just a temporary state of mind that comes and goes"

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posted September 29, 2015 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Sylven:
Your words to me are almost poetic. I 'feel' them.

Somehow, with your NN in 6th you are here to put your beautiful and spiritual feelings and being in day to day life. You say you go out in nature and that is one way of earthing and grounding you. The best I would say!! Let it be there where you can connect to others, life, animals, the universe, the kosmos. It doesn't have to be directly face to face. But do it consciously. Use the earth to feel grounded first. Hug trees, walk bare foot in the woods. A lot of grounding exercises will help too. Dancing? Activating the lower chakra's will make you feel connected in the here and now. Meditating would not be my advise at first. Read up on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd chakra's. Third chakra is your power place. If you are lost you can find it there.

What is your desired outcome? You feeling connected?

Good you're here!!

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posted September 30, 2015 01:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
Readingthestars95, idk where to begin. So much I could quote so frankly I appreciate the whole msg.

You articulate yourself in such a Piscean way - the flow of your words sound poetic from beginning to end. Idk how weighty your chart is with Neptune but wow, I love it.

I love the beauty of Neptune. Writing poetry. Connecting to nature. Having genuine empathy and sympathy for the hurt and afflicted. Being an ear and an aid. Deep respect for the elderly and the meek. Soul love with a companion. Tranquility in various forms. I wholeheartedly accept the compassion for humanity and the longing to reach my highest level of consciousness. And with that I love the good but in turn must cope with the bad. And I'm hoping, to harness my flights of fancy much better. I see my NN in the 6th beaming at me to travel the dark tunnel and come out in the other side. Get planted and organized in life. Truly get into servitude. You meet me - A Sagittarius Asc with a fun competitive Aries Moon and you wouldn't know how deep my waters are. I think soon enough ppl will see this Neptunian energy much much more. Neptune transiting my 3rd now, I can no longer hide this old soul aura.

Thank you for sharing beautiful and true words.

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I agree, neptune is an old ancient soul. It is the soul of the universe when it was first created and the soul of the last living thing that will exist ever.

posted October 01, 2015 06:16 PM            

Whenever someone mentions Neptune the way you have here, and I don't see major transits of the harder type, I look to the prog chart.

Your prog Neptune 1CAP16 is just finishing a 105* to natal Moon 16ARI13. That is a 0*03' orb separating, so its just ending. That 105* aspect can be seen as a mini-square similar to a semi-square.

It has been reinforced by a still near exact progression of Saturn 16SCO22-r quincunx your natal Moon. These two progressed aspects together hang around a while and can make for a stressful navigation of personal emotions, and all the mind's wanderings related to them.

Plus, prog Neptune in declination [22S15] is only slowly moving out of its near exact parallel with natal Uranus [22S18].

Because Neptune is your 1st house planet closest to the Asc and is also parallel the natal Asc [23S07] (along with Uranus), it figures heavily in your devleopment.

The main challenge can be scaling down the wide open perceptions and subtle impressions to know what to do with them today. This is why I always recommend that particularly Neptunian folks work with their dreams as much as they can by setting an intention before you sleep, keeping a notebook by the bed, etc. This is where the Neptunian energy works most effectively.

Every Neptunian person should have a good reliable dream book for working with interpretations. Understand your life in metaphoric terms, but translate them into decisions, adjustments, actions relevant for today's living.

posted October 01, 2015 09:21 PM            

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get so lifted in fantasy

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I know how that feels.

To me fantasy is something that gives illusions of safety. In my fantasy nothing bad happens and hence a safe haven. It's tempting to turn away from the harsh reality and get lost in it.

Each time you get in a little deeper, and it gets a little harder to find your way back, reality becomes a little harsher and facing it eventually becomes too difficult. Before long, you'll be lost completely.

Fantasy and dreams are very nice, but when I really think about it, they always carry the threat of swallowing me up.

posted October 02, 2015 01:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Plutonian-Gal,

Whenever someone mentions Neptune the way you have here, and I don't see major transits of the harder type, I look to the prog chart.

Your prog Neptune 1CAP16 is just finishing a 105* to natal Moon 16ARI13. That is a 0*03' orb separating, so its just ending. That 105* aspect can be seen as a mini-square similar to a semi-square.

It has been reinforced by a still near exact progression of Saturn 16SCO22-r quincunx your natal Moon. These two progressed aspects together hang around a while and can make for a stressful navigation of personal emotions, and all the mind's wanderings related to them.

Plus, prog Neptune in declination [22S15] is only slowly moving out of its near exact parallel with natal Uranus [22S18].

Because Neptune is your 1st house planet closest to the Asc and is also parallel the natal Asc [23S07] (along with Uranus), it figures heavily in your devleopment.

The main challenge can be scaling down the wide open perceptions and subtle impressions to know what to do with them [b]today. This is why I always recommend that particularly Neptunian folks work with their dreams as much as they can by setting an intention before you sleep, keeping a notebook by the bed, etc. This is where the Neptunian energy works most effectively.

Every Neptunian person should have a good reliable dream book for working with interpretations. Understand your life in metaphoric terms, but translate them into decisions, adjustments, actions relevant for today's living.

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A lot you shared I could not understand - have yet to study progressions and declinations. My attention span is pathetic; grasping at dozens of subjects I want to learn every.single.day. I gotta get it together, I'm enjoying and dreading the lack of grounding. And Kannon I can't recall sharing this with you but all my life (ALL) my dreams have been very very abstract. They never make sense or form some sort of cohesive meaning after the fact. Most cases I have more than 3 distinct dreams in one sleep cycle; it's bizarre. I immediately forget what I was dreaming of because it's like a variety show; bouncing from acts rapidly just about. I guess I could say my reality has been in such a haze - it's like its second nature, and maybe my dreams are in total scramble because of it. Ehh, no maybe about it now that I'm thinking on it.

posted October 02, 2015 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
I know how that feels.

To me fantasy is something that gives illusions of safety. In my fantasy nothing bad happens and hence a safe haven. It's tempting to turn away from the harsh reality and get lost in it.

Each time you get in a little deeper, and it gets a little harder to find your way back, reality becomes a little harsher and facing it eventually becomes too difficult. Before long, you'll be lost completely.

Fantasy and dreams are very nice, but when I really think about it, they always carry the threat of swallowing me up.

How do I cope. Well at some point I stopped treating fantasy as a safe haven, and I wanted to turn fantasy into reality. It's better to live the dream, not to just dream it. Thinking/feeling that way helps to anchor my feet.

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posted October 02, 2015 07:00 PM            

A part of what you're describing sounds like transit of Venus Leo trine your Neptune Sag?

If so, that foggy part should end by end of October?, but go ahead and 'enjoy' the idealistic-illusory mystical~romantical effects. It's like a treat from the universe ~desert!

If you Bookmark some of the feelings and experiences you're having, you may be able to draw upon that reference-bank later. What you notice now, could give you some delicious clues about things you like.

You might want to find ways to blend some of what you discover into plans you would make concerning this next phase of your life.

posted October 02, 2015 07:54 PM            

Yeah that beautiful transit had me in a serious illusory cloud a few weeks ago - during the retrograde, which was worse because I was wrapped up in my ex but as soon as Venus went direct I kid you not, I instantly snapped out of it. That's so funny how that works sometimes.

But I think you're right - another poster said a very similar thing...I could really benefit from good journaling through my transits and my dreams. Should really help a lot as I prepare to ground myself physically and spiritually. Thank you!!

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Plutonian_Gal8 {{ }}

A part of what you're describing sounds like transit of Venus Leo trine your Neptune Sag?

If so, that foggy part should end by end of October?, but go ahead and 'enjoy' the idealistic-illusory mystical~romantical effects. It's like a treat from the universe ~desert!

If you Bookmark some of the feelings and experiences you're having, you may be able to draw upon that reference-bank later. What you notice now, could give you some delicious clues about things you like.

You might want to find ways to blend some of what you discover into plans you would make concerning this next phase of your life.

Wishing you some really Beautiful Experiences... Enjoy!

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posted October 02, 2015 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
In my opinion, there comes a point (for those who are especially Neptunian/Piscean) where you kind of just grow a total immersion yet detachment from this realm. You are able to enjoy things, you find meaning in things, yet... Nothing really matters anymore. Not to say complete carelessness, or nihilism.. Rather, a realization of the interconnectedness of everything, leading to a loving acceptance and union with the cosmos.. Not being afraid to drift into whatever may come.. Taking everything as it comes, finding the beauty in it, but yet, not attaching to it as if it is permanent. Loving the universe, reading each experience that comes to you as part of a book you'll never quite understand, yet accepting it.

Such a deep intimacy for the infinite, that it flows through you in whatever you do.. That you begin to find a deep beauty in the smallest things, knowing that to even take a breath links back to the simple fact that things had to be just perfect in order for this kind of experience to even exist.. To know that even being able to experience what it means to have this body was all only possible under the perfect and rare way that the infinite put things together.. To know how rare it is that seemingly simple things exist.. And, to know, it was all possible under the infinite.

To take in every experience, knowing that regardless of what it is, it is all just another perspective for your soul to see. To find beauty in your experiences, knowing the perfection of the infinite is what brought them to you.

I completely understand where you are coming from though. It can be hard to turn all of this into something tangible.. And I think that is partly because, some of it isn't possible to really make tangible, in the simplest ways.

I also have a really hard time understanding myself, and why I'm here.. Where I may be going.. Even, who I am. It can be extremely confusing. Luckily, I'm in a position where I am able to really explore my interests as much as possible right now, while having most of what I need provided to me.

However, even in that, it can be hard to find a way to use this energy. Sometimes it feels like things are going nowhere, and that can be frustrating.

All I can say, is don't be afraid to explore yourself.. Don't be afraid to take risks (I feel that Neptune can have this problem sometimes..).. Honestly, I am going to say that I think it IS going to be hard for most of us to find a way to put this energy to use.. But, I believe that once we do, we will completely immerse our entire souls into whatever it is we learn to use this energy for.

Just take each moment as it comes.. And continue exploring. I'm sure some day you will find something you love to do and are able to channel this energy in to.

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Brilliant!

posted October 02, 2015 08:20 PM            

ETA:

Watched this video on Pisces/12H moon today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avzFFR6nHpo
(Synchronicity University)

She talks about the importance of SOUND to people with these placements...how we bring spirit to life through music, chanting, voicing our intentions. I think other Neptunians might enjoy her lecture...she makes a convincing argument for the effectiveness of working with sound. And it's such a relief to have methods we can rely on, to bridge the gap between the ethereal and substantial realms, without it being a sacrifice and struggle.

She also talks about how 12H/Pisces moon people need a psychic connection with their partners, or at least unspoken understanding. I have been saying this for a while and it felt good to hear it from someone else. But she also gives advice on articulating needs...something that doesn't come to us naturally.

posted October 05, 2015 01:14 AM            

I'm usually pulled back into the background to contemplate or to study spirituality.

posted October 05, 2015 02:56 PM            

Pisces ASC, NN in the 12th, Neptune conj Saturn in the 11th. I feel alone inside all the time, like my inner life is a lot more important than the outside world.