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Topic: Couples that need freedom and independence?
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polkadotstars
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From: Washington, DC
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted September 30, 2015 09:22 AM
  
I was watching a YouTube video last night of Mimi Ikonn (not sure if anyone else watches her video blogs). She recently posted one with her husband discussing what it takes for a great relationship. I didn't watch the whole thing but I noticed one of their main topics was about "complete freedom and independence" in a relationship is key. I know this might not work for every couple. I know one happily married couple who boasts the fact that they have not spent a day apart since the day they first met. I feel like Air signs might crave more independence than say water signs. I'm just wondering if astrology could play a role in their need for freedom and independence in their relationship. Mimi is a Leo. I'm not sure about her husband. Thoughts? I was thinking he is a Gemini?? Something seems very Gemini about him, especially the fact that he is on board with the freedom aspect. What do you all think? And do you have any thoughts about what astrology aspects might play into someone who craves independence in a relationship? Okay I have tried and tried to embed this video in the forum but I can't figure out how lol. Here's the link 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsoR9IIevFI IP: Logged |
frankie2912
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From: Here and There
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posted September 30, 2015 09:33 AM
I think certain Sun and Venus signs may be this way. Air and Fire signs in particular, unless they have a water moon, maybe. I've noticed Venus in Leo, Gemini placements, and Venus in Sagittarius likes their freedom within a relationship. Keep in mind that is just my experience and my limited perspective. I need personal freedom, period. However, in a relationship, I don't mind doing everything and going everywhere with my partner because he's exactly that: my PARTNER. My current boyfriend is the same way and actually he's way more attached than I am. We both have Venus in Scorpio, and he's a Scorpio sun as well. I'm a Capricorn sun. My Sagittarius moon gives me a need to have some space every now and then but his Libra moon wants it to always be " US" and he turns into a big butthurt baby if I say I need space. But I love him anyway lol ------------------
Wherever you go, there you are.
Scorpio ASC
Capricorn Sun
Sagittarius Moon
Sagittarius Mercury
Scorpio Venus
Pisces Mars
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12muddy
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posted September 30, 2015 09:52 AM
Freedom and independence mean different things for different people though. For my s.o and me, "freedom" especially, comes to us when we started to feel that we've become a part of each other. Considerations for each other come as naturally as breathing. Independence, to us it means not having to be close all the time. It means we're ok with being apart for long periods of time. Because as cheesy as it sounds, even when we're physically apart, we still feel each other's presence. We both have earth venus and mars. So spending time together is important too. IP: Logged |
polkadotstars
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From: Washington, DC
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted September 30, 2015 10:25 AM
My ex boyfriend was a Sag sun, Aries moon, Venus Capricorn and he could not be alone for 5 minutes. He couldn't go to the grocery store or even the gym alone. If someone wasn't going with him, he simply wouldn't go. Whether it was with me or with a friend- he had to be with someone. He was very clingy and when I said I needed space (I'm a Pisces sun and moon, Venus Aries) he would get upset and take it personally. He later learned to accept it, and understood I needed my space sometimes. But it felt suffocating to me at times. He would get in arguments with me and say that I should be with someone who has a completely separate life and who I hardly ever see (lol). My current boyfriend is a Pisces sun, Aries moon, and Taurus Venus. I'd say we spend a healthy amount of time together. It isn't too much or too little, it's juuuust right. We both value our independence and own separate schedules during the week, but we still spend one or two nights together during the week and Friday and Saturday nights as well. IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95
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posted September 30, 2015 11:21 AM
I'm not sure about synastry.. But, I would say that hard Venus-Uranus aspects tend to like relationships that allow both partners to retain as much individuality as possible. I don't think this has to mean being extremely independent in the relationship necessarily.. Rather, both partners striving to embrace each other's differences, rather than trying to mold one another. In other words, also willing to give independence if it is desired. IP: Logged |
FruityLlama
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posted September 30, 2015 12:21 PM
I'd look at natals and composites more than synastry. I guess the key players in there would be the usual uranus etc. Maybe a comp. 7H Uranus...IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted September 30, 2015 01:49 PM
I can only compare with myself and my husband and it goes like this:Him: Aries Sun, Merc 1H/Pisces Asc,Venus 12H/Taurus Moon (Cap Decan), Saturn 2H/Cap Mars 10H. Moi: Cancer Sun, Venus, Merc 11H/Cap Moon (Taurus Decan) 5H/Virgo Asc, Mars 12H. He is the clingy one and loves being near me all.the.time (I don't complain) but I am the one that needs time to recharge so I seek out a lot of "me time". The characteristics of our moons are VERY evident in our case for some reason, where pretty much anyone on LL would be able to tell I am a Cap Moon and he, a Taurus Moon, within a few minutes of observation. It's quite fascinating! What I mean is that together he is very Taurus Moon and I, very Capricorn Moon but apart I don't feel it comes out has strong. IP: Logged |
wheresthemoon
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Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 30, 2015 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
My current boyfriend is the same way and actually he's way more attached than I am. We both have Venus in Scorpio, and he's a Scorpio sun as well. I'm a Capricorn sun. My Sagittarius moon gives me a need to have some space every now and then but his Libra moon wants it to always be " US" and he turns into a big butthurt baby if I say I need space. But I love him anyway lol
LOLing right now!!!
I'm a sagittarius moon as well, and my ex (moon in Leo) was exactly the same. "Space" was a swear word with him. IP: Logged |
lisalisa
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posted October 01, 2015 04:28 AM
Freedom is an Aquarius kind of thing she being a Leo that would be opposites attractIP: Logged |
Wild Horses
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posted October 01, 2015 05:04 AM
To me, the most important freedom is the freedom to be yourself. I think most of the relationship failures that happen usually begin due to one partner trying to change who the other partner is as a person. I don't mean asking them to change bad habits. I mean trying to change who they are fundamentally as an individual and not accepting them for themselves. I've been married for 23 years, and I know one of the BIGGEST issues in my marriage that still causes problems to this day is that my husband is constantly trying to change me into him. He's extroverted and I'm introverted (I have a 12th house Sun, Venus, Mercury, Mars stellium). He always pushes me to be more like him. His Pluto is exactly square my Mercury and he never wants to give me freedom of thought. He thinks it's his mission in life to make me think like him. He never wants to just "agree to disagree". I'm very big on "agree to disagree" because I don't expect everyone else to think exactly like me. It's very frustrating when someone doesn't allow for personal freedom of thought and difference of opinion. I have Uranus on my IC in my 4th house, so to me, personal freedom and independence of thought are of PARAMOUNT importance. I'm just the type that accepts that everyone is an individual and I just allow people that "space" to be their individual selves. I don't think everyone is suppose to be a carpon copy of me or my personality. He isn't like that, and it still causes us problems. Ironically, one of the reasons we've been able to work it out and stay together in spite of that is because I accept him as he is and accept that he's not like me. Another example is, just last night, a relative was going on a date to a jazz concert. SHE HATES JAZZ. Her boyfriend pushed and pushed, though, and she went. See, to me, that's a no-go. Being in a relationship shouldn't involve each person nagging the other into doing things and enduring things they hate for the "sake of love". Real love should make you not want to cause the other person undue misery and aggravation if you can avoid it. There should be an allowance for each person to have their own individuality. IP: Logged |
DopGang
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posted October 01, 2015 06:14 AM
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Cappi112
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From: New York, New York, USA
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posted October 01, 2015 07:38 AM
I'm aqua rising, but Cap Sun and Venus/mars in Pisces. I'm a libra moon, balancing all of it. I will sprout wings only if I'm unhappy. If I feel somehow like I'm giving more than I'm receiving, all of a sudden I need freedom - it's a quick shift. It usually isn't permanent. Current relationship with another Cap sun, who has Virgo moon and Venus in Scorpio (his mars is in Pisces). Homeboy's intense. He basically ACTS like he really wants independence and freedom, but I know he likes feeling like I am his. The times I've bailed, he's chased me a lot. I'm happiest when we're together,I think he is too, but until both of us feel secure we definitely do live our own lives. We are also long distance right now, so that's kind of inevitable. IP: Logged | |
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