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DopGang
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posted October 07, 2015 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hopefully this is fun. It was just something that hit me today and I was thinking about it.

So it's like this.

Fire Signs
Leo
Sag
Aries

Water Signs
Cancer
Scorpio
Pisces

Earth Signs
Virgo
Cap
Taurus

Air Signs
Aqua
Gemini
Libra

Pick any two from each element that you think are most alike. This is not a compatibility selection. There is no synastry with this, only two that you think are most alike.

Ironically, as I did them one at a time I ended up with all of the Fixed signs as the Black Sheep! LOL It just worked out that way!


Alternatively, you can also use modality and pick three, with one Black Sheep.

Fixed
Cardinal
Mutable

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Queen Salome
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posted October 07, 2015 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Black sheeps: Aries, Virgo, Scorpio, Aquarius
1 Cardinal, 1 Mutable, 2 Fixed sings

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posted October 07, 2015 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fire: Sagittarius
Reason: The more philosophical of the bunch, takes pause more than the other two.

Water: Pisces
Reason: The more transcendent of the two which deal with external and internal matters - for Cancer, it's extroverted-feelings in relation to other people, with Scorpio, it's introverted feeling in relation to other people. There's a spirituality element to Pisces the other two don't quite possess

Earth: Taurus
Reason: Being Venusian, there's less emphasis on obsessive attention to detail that both Virgo and Capricorn are prone to embodying

Air: Aquarius
Reason: Hard to say. Always hard to pinpoint what an Aquarius is about, but there is a distinct energy that separates them from Gemini/Libra. I can always guess when someone is a Gemini or Libra, but it's always hard for me to feel out an Aquarius.

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Faith
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posted October 07, 2015 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Black sheep according to element:

Fire: Leo is the black sheep because of the way it follows through with everything. It's the most serious of the three fire signs, usually.

Earth: Virgo is the black sheep because its energy is neither obvious (Taurus) nor mysterious (Capricorn as I see it) but a mixture.

Air: Gemini is the black sheep because it doesn't have as much drive for interpersonal interaction as Libra and Aquarius.

Water: Hard to say since they tend to flow into each other, but I'll go with Cancer, because cardinal energy just stands out the most. Scorpio and Pisces are less obvious.

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Faith
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posted October 07, 2015 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Black sheep according to modality:

Cardinal: Libra is the black sheep because it's best at disguising how cardinal it is.

Fixed: Scorpio is the black sheep because it's also a water sign. As the only fixed water sign, it doesn't flow like water, it behaves more like ice (in form, not temperature.)

Mutable: Virgo is the black sheep because it's got to finish what it starts and make things perfect before moving on, where the others may flake out (Gemini), change direction (Sag), or vanish (Pisces.)

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irOkWoo
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posted October 07, 2015 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irOkWoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting idea! I've thought a lot about this, but never looked into it. Didn't want to bombard your thread with lengthy paragraphs, so I tried to be succinct.



Fire Signs
Aries
In my experience, they are less sensitive to the opinions of others and find it easier to set their emotions aside. Arians are also less inclined to consider the feelings of others when speaking an acting.

Water Signs
Pisces
are less easily angered and a lot more expressive of their deep emotions where the other 2 are protective of theirs.

Earth Signs
Taurus
are the hedonists of the group (although all 3 appreciate creature comforts) and I find they are also the least serious in demeanor although they all have an 'earthy' sense of humor.

Air Signs
Aquarius
are the most sensitive of the air signs and also least likely to appreciate beauty for beauty's sake.


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DopGang
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posted October 07, 2015 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are so interesting!

I sincerely love everyone's answers.

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bansheequeen
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posted October 07, 2015 10:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Ive been thinking about this for the last week or so!

Earth: Virgo
The other two are more about material gain and experiencing the physical realm and physical security. Virgo is kind of an airy earth sign, being mutable and ruled by mercury. More theoretical, more mentally oriented. Virgo is concerned with others while cap and taurus is concerned with me and mine. I like to look at virgo as an earthy gemini. Maybe like a gemini grown up.

Fire: Leo
I think leo just behaves less "firey" than the other two. Less impulsive, more focused and directed energy. More grounded. But I dont have any fire in my chart and I know less firey people.

Water: Pisces
No doubt about this one. Pisces is not only the odd one out of water signs, but also the entire zodiac. Both cancer and scorpio hand onto emotions, they are both hard shelled and cling with their claws. Pisces just lets go and everything flows through and around them. They are also the least emotionally roused of the three. The other two are concerned with the immediate world we live in but pisces is not. Cancer and scorpio will be upset today because someone at work gave them bad attitude. Pisces is upset today because he was thinking about the homeless.

Air: Aquarius
No doubt about this either! Aqua is another sign that is like no other in the zodiac not one bit. They are more loners and have more follow through. Also they take life more deeply and seriously than the other air signs. Aqua doesnt care as much about fun and aesthetics. Gemini and libra both have a certain airy vibe. Aqua doesnt give off that vibe to me. Also, the signs that have dual planets ruling them are kind of hard to pinpoint.

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Faith
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posted October 07, 2015 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Wow Ive been thinking about this for the last week or so!

LOL, I posted that I had a similar thought, too, and wondered if others felt it "in the air." Felt a little crazy so I deleted it.

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Selenite
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posted October 07, 2015 11:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fire: Sag - for some reason I see Sag as the least ‘fiery,’ and more detached. I think because it’s out of the personal realm of the first 6 signs, all that fiery bluntness is focused towards ideas and philosophical musings.

Water: Scorpio - I think because of its Mars-Pluto energy, just feels less like water and more like a simmering volcano to me.

Earth: Virgo, because of their scattered and worrisome energy. I know some Virgos who you’d think were Pisces, with their heads all up in the clouds, except they’re thinking about Earth things instead of Pisces things.. Mutable Earth is an odd one

Air: Aqua, because they’re so ‘anti,’ seems odd compared with Libra and Gemini, who see the importance of relating to others over standing out for the sake of it.

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Odette
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posted October 08, 2015 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find cardinal and fixed most alike!
Mutables are in a world of their own.

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bansheequeen
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posted October 08, 2015 02:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
LOL, I posted that I had a similar thought, too, and wondered if others felt it "in the air." Felt a little crazy so I deleted it.

This has happened before on this site... astro people. It really is something in the air!

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frankie2912
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posted October 08, 2015 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My black sheep:

Aries
Cancer
Taurus
Aquarius

Hmmmm two are cardinal, two fixed. I guess it kinda makes sense that the mutable ones AREN'T my black sheep because I tend to think of mutable signs as being able to blend and change, therefore more easily conform...

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posted October 08, 2015 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
Ironically, as I did them one at a time I ended up with all of the Fixed signs as the Black Sheep! LOL It just worked out that way!


Mine all came out as Fixed signs, too.

Fire
Leo - Leo feels like the least independent fire sign to me. Leo likes attention and the approval of others and even needs it to some degree, whereas Aries and Sag seem to have more of an "I can take it or leave it" attitude when it comes to the approval of others.

Earth
Taurus - Virgo and Cap feel like they are way more work focused and way more driven in general. If I need a job done and done right, then I'm gonna give it to a Virgo or Cap before a Taurus. Don't get me wrong, Taurus has many other great attributes that I love, but I think Virgo and Cap have that work ethic that stands out from Taurus.

Air
Aquarius - I think Aquarius is less into individual relating and communicating than Gem and Libra. The type of relating Aquarius loves feels less personal, so it stands apart from the other two in that way.

Water
Scorpio - Scorpio has that whole "still waters run deep" thing going on, so they seem to come across as less vulnerable than Cancer and Pisces. It's not that Scorpio doesn't have emotions, they are just not as on the surface as the other two, but it can make them "seem" less emotionally sensitive. Cancer and Pisces both wear their heart on their sleeve.

Cool thread idea.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted October 08, 2015 09:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see fixed signs too, with the exception of earth signs. I don't sense any earth sign standing out.
But the reasons for the fixed signs in the other elements, is not pejorative, it is related to the influence such placements bring in the chart. In other words, we all have placements responsible for blending in or for other purposes, and other placements responsible for standing out.

Leo stands out by definition It is ruled by the Sun, the star in our solar system, and all planets revolve around it. The purpose of Leo placements in one's chart is to make someone stand out and of course, also doing it responsibly. You want to be a king, you need to act like one.
I think all three fire signs have a great need for being the center of attention, btw.

Scorpio stands out because it combines the watery side with Pluto's fire. It's a tough influence in the chart, compared with Cancer and Pisces which bring sweet, mellow, water energy to it. Scorpio is an affirmation sign, traditionally. (but so is Cancer, as cardinal sign). By affirmation signs, I mean the markers of potential leadership in a chart.

Aqua stands out because this is what Aqua placements do they bring originality to a chart.

On the other hand, all signs stand out in my view, depending what you need them for. You need to identify the greatest therapist or caretaker? Look for Cancer in there. You need to identify the most eccentric? Look for something in Virgo. You need to know which one stands out as a Hulk? Look for something in Taurus. Or the greatest opera singer? There will be something in Taurus. A great sportsmen? Check some Aries and Sag. The Pope amongst the priests? look for some Sag. The greatest artist or mystic? There will be Pisces. A great political leader who has changed the world for better or worse? Check out the Cap, and Libra. Someone who sacrificed themselves for humanity? Check Libra too, and Pisces. The brightest men and women out there, inventors, writers, teachers? You will find something in Gemini. Etc.

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posted April 05, 2022 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for problematique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is cool.

FIRE: sag, because they seem to be diving a bit deeper than the rest. also i don't find them to be the slaves (for a lack of a better word) to their emotions as aries and leo.

WATER: cancer, because they don't let their emotions get the best of them, as pisces and scorpio do. also, least manipulative of the water signs and the most serious.

AIR: aquarius, because there's no people pleasing like with the rest of air signs. they are actually firm and have big ego, something i don't see in gemini and libra.

EARTH: capricorn, because they are very motherly compared to other signs, but this is a very tough one because i don't notice much difference here amongst earthers. capricorns are also the most sensual of the earth signs.

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kani
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posted April 05, 2022 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by problematique:
this is cool.

FIRE: sag, because they seem to be diving a bit deeper than the rest. also i don't find them to be the slaves (for a lack of a better word) to their emotions as aries and leo.

WATER: cancer, because they don't let their emotions get the best of them, as pisces and scorpio do. also, least manipulative of the water signs and the most serious.

AIR: aquarius, because there's no people pleasing like with the rest of air signs. they are actually firm and have big ego, something i don't see in gemini and libra.

EARTH: capricorn, because they are very motherly compared to other signs, but this is a very tough one because i don't notice much difference here amongst earthers. capricorns are also the most sensual of the earth signs.


My experience is that Cancer are the ones that do let their emotions get the best of them. Much moreso than Pisces. Scorpio does, too but they are more covert about it


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