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3l3n
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posted October 15, 2015 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Three exact squares occur over the next 2 years.
November 26, 2015
June 18, 2016
September 9, 2016

Confusion,withdrawal,delusion with difficult, disappointing and even depressing times is how most are describing this aspect.
Saturn strikes for truth, the hard way.

It has me a little terrified. I am already starting to feel the effects of this aspect.
My natal Moon(H6) will be in the middle of this battle, and not only!
Saturn square nSaturn will also be taking place.

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posted October 15, 2015 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I might be wrong but I can see some potential with this square… I would be more afraid of having only hard Neptune transits, to be honest…

Saturn-Neptune square will affect my Moon (Saturn will oppose it while Neptune will square it)… I hope that Saturn will help me stay grounded where Neptune will try to deceive me. The painful part of Saturn transits is that whatever the truth is, I will know it during this period… but I prefer this rather than being deluded by Neptune

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posted October 15, 2015 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I'm so used to Neptunes delusion with planets & asteroids in Pisces,it has me terrified.
Come to think of it though, it hasn't helped much concerning future plans and goals or my relationships for years now. So,I will come to think of this as something positive and life changing, as much it's gonna hurt. And I'm sure it will,with nMars also in the middle!

My NN is in Virgo. It's time I started working towards it

Stay cool Gemmi. And stay true to your intuition on this journey

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posted October 15, 2015 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nNeptune is already conjunct my Saturn, with tSaturn moving to the square and completing a grand cross (opp Merc, sq Uranus) tSaturn transiting my second is the most immediate issue for me. My business is drying up.

That said, Saturn is calling me to redouble my efforts. Head down, chin up, effort will be rewarded even if you can't see it (Neptune) right away.

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posted October 15, 2015 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 3l3n:
I guess I'm so used to Neptunes delusion with planets & asteroids in Pisces, it has me terrified.
Come to think of it though, it hasn't helped much concerning future plans and goals or my relationships for years now.

Hi 313n... Your words that "it has me terrified" is a clue to this transit. Enhanced sensitivity and emotional reactiveness. (And that's not a bad thing, okay? It's how this transit plays itself. ... {{{You can do this.}}} You'll make it through this with flying colors and rich treasures for it afterwards.)

I think you have your Moon where my Sun is. Sun Gemini at 7.50 H6taur, and my 7th Cusp Gemini is 11.30.

Those square-dates listed in your OP represent a direct hit to my Sun (tNep square), with tSaturn conjunct on my ASC/Desc and opposite my Sun.

So that would make your Moon-- opp Saturn and squaring Neptune, and your Saturn square Saturn.

Your 'feeling-sense' may be severely tested, you could think you're hunches are speaking the truth about people when actually you may not; your sensitivities may send your emotions on roller-coaster high-and-low work-outs. KNOW that's what's happening-- doesn't mean you get a mentalhealth label. When you know the astrology of it, you have a way-better chance at handling this successfully.

When you feel yourself swinging on one part of the pendulum, try to fix some kind of "cue" in your environment, or a word that can come to your mind for yourself. Let this signal to you immediately that you have become off-center, and take whatever time you need to detach momentarily from this state, and let yourself go back inside to access that more peaceful core state.

No matter what happens, you can become Aware, and stop-the-action that's happening, stop-the-music LOL, and return to original state of awareness of the greater InnerYOU.

Learn to build-up that INSIDE-care and Love for yourself. KNOW that you are Good, and just because all hell (or heaven) seems to break loose from time to time, the most important Being that you have to care and keep safe is YOU.

Yes, we have to think of others, and be Other-minded--- but when you don't know how or where your emo/feelings can be so attacked-feeling and so unfairly, Gently, Gently, Gently... come down Inside yourself, and wrap some love inside your abdomen/trunk, and tell yourself that you are Okay.

Important to get objective-facts about yourself through the interactions or your environment. You seem very very interested in self-improvement, AND know that sometimes some of the shadowwork techniques can put undue burdens on a time when you really need to be Good to yourself. The techniques are good, but if you're feeling like life isn't worth living anymore from using it? Then Stop for the time being, and switch to something else that will be kinder to your process. (You can always go back to the harsher processing later, when your selflove is more solid and intact. There is a lot of value to shaddowwork, but it can also be 'too much' during certain times.)

So, you can take mental notes about what you might want to improve, but do NOT beat yourself up, judge-condemn-punish.

If it's in your mind and heart is to always do the Best you can, and your have your Ideals and Goodwill Values forward in your consciousness and behavior-set, then focusing on your Love-Center (chakra), and hugging your innerChild and protecting it, should establish a floor-foundation for you. On a DAILY basis, take a few minutes and practice finding then letting go of harmful self-judging that brings self-condemnation and self-punishment. You don't need to do that, you know? You really really don't.

Your Moon in 6th House? Every day, build that inner-relationship and Love Yourself the Best you can. Treat that innerchild like it's an innocent outside-child you'd meet somewhere on the street. Feed your InnerKid with self-love and self-acceptance.

When Others try to pull something rather~nasty on you, process it. In a way?, they 'don't know what they do'... The Universe sees, and is the BEST avenger and equalizer.

We're living in a world that is such a mix of Kind and evil-doers.

But YOU be the role model, YOU show them and strive to be the example of living in a world that needs Peace seeded.

I hope you are surrounded and protected by True Friends at this time, who KNOW you're going through this transit, and that you might be reacting to things that 'aren't' actually happening, but they-are-to-you?

I know that I pray for that in my own life. I can't see what's around the corner for me and I MUST rely on the trustworthiness of others who would Understand this and help me keep on a good track for my life, and will watch for me that I don't get Swindled while under Neptune's anesthesia.


It's a time of Reveal, of finding out who the REAL and Beautiful people are in your life, versus the one's who are just 'using' you for their own purpose and gains and don't mind if you crash (like, it's entertainment for them).

When you're down, that's not an invitation to be kicked and bullied, but a rally-call to those around you to be comforting, strengthening, and helpful with whatever you might need that you don't have access-to, yourself. Sometimes you 'really' can't do everything for yourself-- and that includes emotionally. Find out who you can trust to help you with this part of yourself.

Prayers for you to be surrounded by Benevolent Forces through this time-- the Heavenly and the Earthly kind.

Friends, true-friends, are the kind that are THERE for you, in Good times AS WELL AS the Bad. If they're not, then they're not who they paint themselves to be (and the universe has a way of repaying that somehow).

EVERYONE has bad transits from time to time over their lifespan. You deserve support and Understanding.

MAINLY THOUGH, Please cultivate and garden that place of self-love and self-acceptance. YOU be Kind to you. {hug}

(music) That's What Friends Are For (Elton John & Friends) [5:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhu5-4W88hM

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posted October 15, 2015 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What degree is each of the squares at?

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posted October 15, 2015 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yota13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the nov. square is 7 degrees sag saturn and 7 pisces for neptune. I have natal mars 7 degrees gemini in the 12h! A little worried about what to expect.

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posted October 15, 2015 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like some intense things are going on that day in November.

Sun is at 3 Sagittarius
Moon is at 6 Gemini
Mercury is at 8 Sagittarius
Lucifer is at 6 Virgo
Saturn is at 7 Sagittarius
Neptune is at 7 Pisces

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posted October 16, 2015 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your help and uplifting words mirage29!


My Moon is @ 11deg Sag btw.
Mars/SN is @ 15deg Pisces
Saturn @ 10deg Virgo.
A pretty T-square being triggered for the next couple of years by this transit square.


I wish you well and clarity with this transit!

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posted November 27, 2015 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouspisces89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is an old topic, but I just found this amazing article about Saturn square Neptune so I wanted to share it!
http://www.astrologyhub.com/imagine-new-realities-as-saturn-neptune-duet-through-2016/

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posted November 27, 2015 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great article and nicely explained! Thanks curiouspisces89

The energy of these two are being felt strongly at the moment.
I see it in people around me. most cannot explain what is going on as they are feeling quite delusional.
I myself feel the same way, but the pressure of Saturn is something new to me, having me feel numb in certain situations

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posted November 27, 2015 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My progressed moon in Cap is conjunct p.Saturn by 1 degree
I've always been well acquainted with Saturn's energy..
Back when t.Saturn was in Leo, it was on my South Node and opposite my Moon
When t.Saturn was in Virgo, it was in my 12th house opposite my Mars
When t.Saturn was in Libra, it was opposite my n.Venus
t.Saturn in Scorpio? Conjunct my natal Pluto, opposite my chart ruler and Sun
Hell, Saturn is even the 3rd most powerful planet in my chart

Yet this Saturn square Neptune transit is ridiculously dark. My chest feels heavy and as if it's difficult to breathe. I thought I'd been very responsible with a nose to the grindstone since late 2014 but my head keeps ringing with all these visions of things I've still yet to accomplish

I have mutable angles, which is what is causing this major identity crisis for me I think

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posted November 27, 2015 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouspisces89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest I feel great and I really need this as Neptune can be quite delusional for me as its a ruler of my sun sign so I need Saturn to keep me on the ground plus it will hopefully allow me to use my creativity of Neptune in more productive way

But I have a strange positive imagine of Saturn. I like his work lol (he is my chart ruler)

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posted November 27, 2015 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mind is in control and disciplined though.Haven't felt like this in ages!
t.Saturn is exact trine natal Mercury(chart ruler) atm.
Helping out a little before the squares start to push harder

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posted November 27, 2015 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouspisces89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to hear you will be fine don't worry! I don't believe that any aspect or transit is a bad one. It's all meant to teach us somethings valuable we just need to be willing to learn.

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posted November 27, 2015 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think I have to worry about this aspect much, because it doesn't touch anything in my chart that I'm aware of. I mean, I could be wrong, but I think my biggest concern is something else.

I'm more worried about when Neptune opposes my Midheaven another time. I think Neptune Retrograde hits harder, but still. I'm cautious since the first hit damaged me significantly. I didn't even know I was hit until it was too late.

If I have to worry about a transit involving one of these planets, I would rather be hit by Saturn. Keep Neptune away from me.

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posted November 27, 2015 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh. My. God. It was exact yesterday??

I now understand yesterday's events much more fully😕

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posted November 27, 2015 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*waves to mirage, above* How nice of you to do that reading.

Adding degrees:

November 26, 2015 > 7 Sag
June 18, 2016 > 12 Sag
September 9, 2016 > 10 Sag

So the first one hit my 6 Sag Venus, the second and third will hit my Neptune 12 Sag Neptune.

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posted November 27, 2015 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ended up with this chart while calculation of moon at true oscillating apogee & perigee.
All the info is there if you wish to erect it for different location. 2 weeks before you June 15 date, as I said I was working on something else when I saw this pattern and had to rename my chart.
slightly ominous looking ,NO.



Jupiter there is 34' behind my natal Sun and the Nodes are smacking my progressed MC AND Juno. Oh what fun.
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posted November 28, 2015 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump

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posted November 28, 2015 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Saturn- Neptune square will be exactly on my Moon in June and September next year.

Gemmi and 313,
are you under this square transit now or yours will be later next year as well? I wish I could hear of someone's experience

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posted November 28, 2015 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bella_taurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This transit has been so painful for me. I cannot even begin. Saturn is still kicking my ass over my divorce which happened 7 years ago. And Neptune is giving me grand disillusionment that we will reconcile someday. All I can do is laugh and cry at the same time. Jesus, the holidays are so hard on me. I pray I make it through...I pray, I pray.

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posted December 01, 2015 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
The Saturn- Neptune square will be exactly on my Moon in June and September next year.

Gemmi and 313,
are you under this square transit now or yours will be later next year as well? I wish I could hear of someone's experience



My Sun is at 6 Pisces H8
Moon at 5 Virgo H2
NN at 5 Sag Cusp of H4-5

It's nearly impossible for me to tell any type of story regarding this transit without delving into my Neptune transit, so I'll do my best to draw a distnction between the two energies (although some would be reasonably apparent, looking at house placements).

We sold our home in April this year, and moved to a place where we could buy a home outright with what we had made in profit.

At that time, Saturn was close to my T-square, and so was Neptune. Packing, work we didn't feel like doing, etc. combined with the desire to live more in sync with our higher selves.

The goal was to own our home, and for my husband to get out of his unfulfilling line of work.

In between transits, within degrees.......T Pluto simultaneously opposing my N Saturn......
Nothing in that area spoke to us, so to speak, so we left and traveled around the country, looking for places we enjoyed, even considering just getting jobs and renting an apartment, or whatever.

But nothing was working out for us in any of the places we liked, so we just bought a house in the first area we had traveled to (it's inexpensive there for good reason, unfortunately).

Neptune Rx, coming closer to my T-square again............
Really unpleasant energy, from the town as well as the house (Neptune/H8 stuff). Bats in the attic (expensive to have them removed, and the attic cleaned out, etc).

Creep vibe from the basement and upstairs, washing machines kept breaking down, and I couldn't get enough clarity or alone time to clear the energy out, so I had to hire some other people to do it for me, before we left (I didn't want that energy attached to us, or to leave it there for another family).

Neptune and Saturn start to close in on the square...........

In the meantime, I had started work full-time, and loved my job.

But the women (Saturn square Moon) I worked with as coworkers were really horrid, stupid people who made my job a lot harder with their lack of camaraderie.

But I trudged on, didn't tell anyone to go f**k themselves, and eventually was able to go in for my last day with a good reference.

......
Neptune on my Sun, and possibly a pleasant trine from T Saturn to my Venus, allowed me to work with elderly dementia patients in a nursing home, and really let my compassion and empathy flow in a positive way, also recognizing some deep truths about how we live as humans, how it is when we come to the last parts of our lives, and unfortunately being present while a few residents soldiered through their last days in this lifetime.

Then it was time to pack up, move, travel more, etc. Mildly draining, but not too bad. Just stuff you have to do. Saturn stuff.

So far, that's been it, but it's only a degree or two from my Sun and Moon, and there's some uncertainty/apprehension regarding my husband's new job, and our dwindling savings while we wait for the home inspections to go through so that we can close the sale on our house.

We love where we're at, but there's still uncertainty hanging around with all of that.

If it all falls through, I guess I'll keep you posted.

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posted December 01, 2015 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nvm for now.

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posted December 01, 2015 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you for sharing your transit ordeal, Violets.

Im glad it didnt bring depression and loneliness in your life, because that is what these transits usually do.

buying a house in the first town that you decided on. wow. I could not even imagine that, the Virgo in me..sounds like the two of you are of the same mind, thou, which is great.

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