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bluestskies88
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posted October 22, 2015 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just saw the new Steve Jobs movie, and this man is totally MAD - as in genius mad, and also a dark soul (insane)! I know he has Mercury in Aquarius... but what other placements makes him to be this narcissistic person that he was, but also a genius who helped change the world.

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posted October 22, 2015 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
having several retrograde planets, uranus conjunct jupiter opposing venus

mars in 8th trine pluto in Aries is deep, assertive

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posted October 22, 2015 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mars/Pluto Emperor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wana see it so badly,it seems really good when it comes to his success!

Also I can't help but notice he has a Mercury in Aquarius and Gemini MC like me! Gemini MC would mean your skills used to reach your Ambitions would involve communicating,extending,having your hands on everything,Very good at talking,usually people can e narcisstic that way.

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posted October 22, 2015 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard that this movie was not really representative of him, but I don't know. Just heard that.

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posted October 23, 2015 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I heard that this movie was not really representative of him, but I don't know. Just heard that.


I read an article that said it portrayed him in a bad light because they chose to show how he treated the people around and how he abandoned his first daughter. And well, I had to red a book about him and the book mentioned a lot of bad things about his character too.. I mean... steve jobs isnt really remembered for being a stellar guy, he is remembered for the things he did. But still.. he stole a lot of ideas so I really dont know why people make him out to be like this amazing dude. But I dunno, I like Bill gates more as a person, and the the company more too.

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posted October 23, 2015 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries mars and moon. Narcissistic, driven, power hungry. Mars in the 8th, extremely driven!

Hm jupiter square mars. He worked at it and one day struck gold with his success. His jupiter is also in the 10th house of career, bringing luck and success into the area.

Interesting how his north node is in the 4th house, cap. Like, his karmic goal was to focus on family through hard work. Interesting because I know he ended up accepting the daughter he denied was his. And after his success he found his birth parents, but he was careful because he didnt want them to ask for his money hah. He ended up marrying an independant woman who let him be a career guy and had more children, so he did kind of end up being able to balance his nodes. Cancer and cap, 10th house and 4th house.

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posted October 23, 2015 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun parallel Neptune at 9 south.
Mercury Qd/105 Neptune.
Sun sesquisquare Jupiter.
Jupiter parallel/conjunct Uranus.

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posted October 24, 2015 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thegrinning_cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Moon is basically unaspected! :O

That's a bad sign for the development of your emotional side, right…?

And in Aries….maybe there was aggression that could not be felt?

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posted October 24, 2015 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has a T Square with Mercury/Saturn/Pluto.

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posted October 24, 2015 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun in Pisces is imaginative, a genius, and wanted to help the world. His Moon and Mars in Aries, could make him narcissistic and selfish.

I would know, I'm a Mars in Aries! LMAO!

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posted October 24, 2015 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ Hi!,
It's been a while !
* My 2 cents

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Mercury was in his 5th House
Mercury rules investigation, research, etc. Its higher octave is Uranus, which rules technology and futuristic ideas; rules the neo-cortex in one's body.

* ~ What is this 5th house Mercury of him telling us?
5th house is about:
Creativity, new beginnings, innovation, risk-taking, hobbies, projects, ventures, recreation, fun & games, romance, passion and of course, pioneering.

And which house rules this Mercury?
This 5th House Mercury is Lord of 10th house ( ok, at least... so far... )

What is the 10th house about? Again, briefly...
10H is about leadership, goals & achivements, professional image, executive/boss, challenge and competition.

Ok, where's the higher octave of Mercury, Uranus, ruler of technology?
It's in te 11th house ( conjunct Jupiter in 10th )

* ~ Ok, care to elaborate about the 11th House?
Why not,
if the 5t house is about creativity and new beginnings, the 11th house is about "shared creative efforts", cooperation
, participation, coalitions, diplomacy and culture.

Ok, now let's see who is the Lord of 11th house.
It's the Moon, a Moon in 7th house.

* ~ So, what is the 7th house about?

If the 1st House is about action , 7th house is about reaction and feedback, brotherhood, inventions, partnerships, teamwork. If 1st house is about existence, 7th House is about co-existence. If 1st House is myself, 7th house is my projection, my mirror, freedom, equality, need for inventions and discovery. New changes and Technology.
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*ETA* ~ Ahhh... all of this makes so much sense, but I have to say... just in case you haven't noticed ~ I am not using the typical House System
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Okay,
* ~ What does Lord of 7th in 2nd House mean?
Easy reasoning,
Product of partnerships, teamwork, new changes in technology, inventions, reaction, reception and feedback. (7th)
==> such things as personal finances, security, possesions/resources, income, values and fluctuation will be achieved. (2nd)

What does the Square between Neptune (2nd) and Uranus (11th) mean?
Hmmm, what about the square between Mercury and Saturn? Shouln't it make the subject's intelligence very limited?

~ Aw, not at all.
Saturn is in 3rd House is telling us that mr Jobs probably already had participation in the Social Media, transportation, communication and ideas in previous incarnations. Already experimented, variety, restlessness and mobility. I'd say so, taking in count the aspects of Saturn, it seems like all that was 'present time' in his life, was indeed product of a distant past.

This (poor) bullied Saturn, tell us about some 'confrontation' in that '3rd House context'. It seems like those past events were somehow influencing the present time, because Mercury in 5th is retrograde (tension comes from long ago), tension with its higher octave it's also present ( in 11th and also retrograde)

He had to solve that contextual issue his Saturn told him to, because Saturn is the focal point of that T-Square, not Mercury Rx or Uranus.
So it means He had to endure the context that was trying to put a limit to his creativity (Mercury 5H) probably coming from long time ago (Rx)/ Same context was affecting his efficience and health (Squares to 12H) and finally caused his death (Pluto, Lord of 8th house, house of Death)

* ~ So what does Lord of 8th house in 12th House exactly means in His chart?

Mr Jobs's natal chart was telling that the cause of his death would be in a 12th House context. Again, briefly:
12th H is about order and efficience, health, seeking perfection, details, problem-solving, tools systems, processes, skills, work and competence.

But to make clear, I'm not saying Mr Jobs made a 'mistake' nor made the 'wrong decision'. Because He wasn't trying to solve a karmic task in His 12th House, but in the 3rd. Solving this issue( 3rd) for the sake of his (NN 4th) was the main goal on his mind. And so He did, or at least I'd say so

~ Good job, Mr Jobs !
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posted October 25, 2015 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, GemBird - that was wild! thank you!

would love for you to read my chart! hehe

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thank you to all the other responses as well

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posted October 25, 2015 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bluestskies88:
Wow, GemBird - that was wild! thank you!

would love for you to read my chart! hehe

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thank you to all the other responses as well


~ Aw, really?
thank my lucky stars I came back to this thread, usually there's not a lot of appreciation for Humanistic House Systems... and interpretation
Thank you ! *hugs*
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posted October 25, 2015 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemBird82:
[i]~ Aw, really?
thank my lucky stars I came back to this thread, usually there's not a lot of appreciation for Humanistic House Systems... and interpretation
Thank you ! *hugs*

Awesome! i appreciate it. Shall i post my birthchart here or privately?

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posted October 25, 2015 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
. double post .

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posted October 25, 2015 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bluestskies88:
Awesome! i appreciate it. Shall i post my birthchart here or privately?

Hi bluestskies !
I think a @GemBird in Personal Readings would be the right place for it.
Feel free to post any question or inquiries, however, it might take me some time.

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posted October 25, 2015 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Hi bluestskies !
I think a @GemBird in Personal Readings would be the right place for it.
Feel free to post any question or inquiries, however, it might take me some time.

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posted.. take ur time xx

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posted October 26, 2015 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thegrinning_cat:
His Moon is basically unaspected! :O

That's a bad sign for the development of your emotional side, right…?

And in Aries….maybe there was aggression that could not be felt?


Exactly what jumped out at me, the peregrine (unaspected) Moon. The Sun only has a (ptolmeic - i.e. major aspects) link to Neptune too. He would have felt entirely disconnected from others, from understanding them and actually truly understanding himself. So, of course you'd gravitate towards that strongly aspected Venus and try to 'win love through creativity'. I was expecting a Venus-Pluto aspect, and we have a bi-quintile - the feeling of passion from unique creativity (the essence of quintile).

My gut feeling was a didn't like this guy and now I know why. I'm a Moon person, but it must be difficult to have a disengaged Moon. He must have felt very lonely...

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posted October 26, 2015 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
Exactly what jumped out at me, the peregrine (unaspected) Moon. The Sun only has a (ptolmeic - i.e. major aspects) link to Neptune too. He would have felt entirely disconnected from others, from understanding them and actually truly understanding himself. So, of course you'd gravitate towards that strongly aspected Venus and try to 'win love through creativity'. I was expecting a Venus-Pluto aspect, and we have a bi-quintile - the feeling of passion from unique creativity (the essence of quintile).

My gut feeling was a didn't like this guy and now I know why. I'm a Moon person, but it must be difficult to have a disengaged Moon. He must have felt very lonely...


it looks like he has semisextile though...sun semisextile moon... this doesn't count as an aspect?

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posted October 26, 2015 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i found this about sun and moon peregine ... it mentions steve jobs lol

on steve job's chart, does it mean he has sun and moon unaspected?

Unaspected Sun: Intensified Ego Drive

A person with unaspected Sun tends to march to a different drumbeat. There can be strong emphasis on self expression and leadership, as well as a strong need for ego recognition.
Unaspected Moon: Possible Emotional Disconnection

Natal Moon with no major aspects tends to magnify the needs represented by Moon’s sign. A good example is Steve Jobs, who had unaspected Moon in Aries (“the need to be Number One”). Unaspected Moon possibly suggests emotional disconnection from the parents, and later from other people. There may also be a need to express a caring, nurturing or educational behavior in order to connect with the world.

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posted October 31, 2015 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now look at all that again against his Heliocentric positions.

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posted November 01, 2015 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's remember that there were other people behind Steve helping him change the world.

He didn't do it on his own, but he did take most of the credit for it.

I would attribute that to his Aries placements.

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