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wheresthemoon
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posted October 24, 2015 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quick story.

I am a Cancer ascendant, 25 degrees. Which means that within a few years, I am looking "forward to" a Pluto transit to my seventh house.

However, within the last five - six years I have experienced essentially all the effects of this transit. When Pluto was at 1 degree Capricorn (December 31, 2008), a "Plutonian character" came into my life. I had just experienced the end of a relationship that I thought was significant. I was heartbroken.

I went to a New Years party at a friends house, and saw a guy there. I had met him before, but he'd been dating my friend. We had talked a little bit online after they broke up and he was clearly interested in me, but I was dating this other guy so it went no further than that.

But when I saw him at this party, he lit up when he saw me and happily said "hey!" The rest was history. That began the most intense relationship of my life.

Since then we've married. He's been abusive towards me, but we have both hurt each other incredibly. We married, moved across the country, had a baby together, and when Pluto was exactly square with my natal sun, I left him. Since then I have only encountered MORE Plutonian characters.

When I look at everything that's happened, I can clearly see it is Pluto-descendant stuff I've been dealing with ever since pluto entered Capricorn. And yet, Pluto has been right in my sixth house the whole time.

Around the same time, my sister (who is also a cancer ascendant) went through similar things. She had a very intense relationship with a guy that ended very badly and has had another bad relationship since then. Pluto ACTUALLY entered her seventh house recently, and she got married to the sweetest guy who is just perfect for her, but she is the most controlling, uptight, difficult wife to the point that she is actually mentally abusing him. Which I guess can be Pluto-descendant stuff, but I've noticed bad stuff happening TO the both of us at the hands of our partners since Pluto entered Capricorn.

When I look at Pluto entering my seventh house in a few years, I am terrified. By all the descriptions I've read of Pluto-descendant transits, it sounds like everything I've ALREADY BEEN THROUGH. I can't stand the thought of going through it all again.

Is it possible that you can start experiencing the effects of this transit when it enters just the sign of your descendant? I'm horrified at the thought of this whole hideous process starting over, especially since I will be experiencing my Saturn return in the seventh along with progressed Mars opposite Neptune at the same time.

What are your thoughts?

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bananaz
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posted October 24, 2015 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not an expert, but you could be interpreting the descendent in a completely different way. Pluto could transform your relationships with people in ways you're not expecting. For example, my husband is a cancer ascendant, and we're in the talks of starting up a franchise, which for him involves developing partnered business relationships. It seems like Pluto's doing because he would be a 1st time business owner, and the experience, I imagine, should be empowering.

Apart from that, we're trying to have a baby. Although this is usually 5th house stuff, becoming parents would totally transform our relationship. It's been just me and him for the past 8 years. A baby would destroy the relationship we have, but not necessarily in a "bad" way, but in a very Plutonian, forcing strength and empowerment type of way.

Unless you didn't find the strength Pluto desired for you when you got out of your last relationship (which it sounds like you did) I feel like you won't have to repeat those same lessons. You've lived and learned from them. Whatever is in store for you will be transformational, but not necessarily in the heartbreaking sense.

Hope this helps.

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curiouspisces89
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posted October 24, 2015 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouspisces89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm cancer asc too and Pluto is in my sixth house he has been transforming my relationships and me but because he is conjuncting my moon and dsc I have had my heart broken and been through quite a difficult period this year but I wouldn't change a thing as Pluto has thought me a lot about me and showed me the power I have within

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Kannon McAfee
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posted October 24, 2015 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Timing of the transits in longitude of Pluto to natal Asc/DC axis (or MC/IC) range a few degrees (4-5) from exact just as they do to natal planets.

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When I look at Pluto entering my seventh house in a few years, I am terrified. By all the descriptions I've read of Pluto-descendant transits, it sounds like everything I've ALREADY BEEN THROUGH. I can't stand the thought of going through it all again.

I'm sorry to hear what you've been through, but don't assume it will continue or worsen.

It is important not to take the chart's Asc you have literally. And what you described here is good rectification material.

During the last 5 years Pluto's position has gone from 3-13 Capricorn, and 18S43-21S09 in declination. So the more likely explanation for the timing of your relationship experiences is that your Asc is at an earlier degree, possibly around 10 Cancer, since 18-21 south only edges into the early Capricorn area in the last couple years. Not long enough time to explain the timing of your experiences. The need for this type of Asc adjustment is common and can correct many timing issues in the future.

However, it could also be explained by such transits as Pluto's square/Uranus' conjunct your Sun in Aries, or by progressions.

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