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hannaramaa
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posted October 25, 2015 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does it matter in regards to how you feel the aspect?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted October 25, 2015 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

Example: I was born when Moon 12CAP08 was in separating square to Uranus 5LIB32. It represents a waning, thus decreasing influence that is effectively gone from my personality and life now at age 45 (and was by age 40). (This is due to the direction of my development, not due to any timing hinged to Moon or Uranus).

Applying aspects, particularly by planets in perpetual direct motion in progression, will create a stronger effect at exactly the same orbs. So for example, if my Moon/Cap had been in applying square to Uranus/Libra with the same orb (6-1/2*), the effect would have been stronger and probably continuing in terms of my personality/domesticity even today.

This is because the applying aspect is waxing, that is gaining.

The separating aspect is waning, that is decreasing.

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posted October 25, 2015 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aah08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The planet that moves faster is the one to take into consideration when determinating if its applying/separating right?

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posted October 25, 2015 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you've gotta look at their actual speed, and if one or both of them are retrograde, in addition to that.

I just use astro's grids, I believe they're reliable.

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posted October 25, 2015 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone!

I asked because I have Moon trine Uranus but don't see the effects of it very much compared to Moon trine Saturn, Neptune and opposition Pluto. No wonder because it's separating and the others are applying. Kind of a bummer the two watery planets are applying, but *shrug*

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posted October 25, 2015 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if the only applying aspects are minor ones and the big ones like conjunctions are separating?

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posted October 25, 2015 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting So my moon at 26 degrees aquarius is seperating from my pluto in scorpio at 22 degress? So its going to become significantly weaker as time goes? Or its always been weaker since its seperating?

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posted October 25, 2015 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
Interesting So my moon at 26 degrees aquarius is seperating from my pluto in scorpio at 22 degress? So its going to become significantly weaker as time goes? Or its always been weaker since its seperating?

I'd assume always been weaker since it's separating since it's your natal chart and not progressions or transits.

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posted October 26, 2015 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aah08:
The planet that moves faster is the one to take into consideration when determinating if its applying/separating right?

Correct. That is essential to what applying and separating mean here.

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posted October 26, 2015 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Thanks everyone!

I asked because I have Moon trine Uranus but don't see the effects of it very much compared to Moon trine Saturn, Neptune and opposition Pluto. No wonder because it's separating and the others are applying. Kind of a bummer the two watery planets are applying, but *shrug*


How close/wide an aspect is that Moon trine Uranus? If it's a wide orb while the other aspects are tight, you're not going to feel it very much, regardless of whether it is separating or applying.

ETA: Correction. what I meant to say is that you will feel the greater orb aspects, but to a lesser degree, and also later in life than the tighter aspects which you will feel right away.

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posted October 26, 2015 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hannaramaa
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posted October 26, 2015 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Belage it's at 4 while Moon / Sat is at -4, Moon Neptune is -3 and Moon Pluto is -5.

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posted October 26, 2015 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah, it's a huge difference. Example of Sun applying to Saturn. Sun is walking straight into the hands of Saturn being inhibited. Whereas the Sun which is separating is walking into freedom and will feel less stress and restriction.

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