posted October 29, 2015 07:58 AM            

Chiron in the 1st House

This pain concerns something that people can see. Anything which resides in the 1st House is visible to others. The scar may be physical, such as an actual scar, a deformity, something of which one is embarrassed such as freckles, a birthmark on the face, being too tall, being too short or one may have an emotional illness which is visible to others such as severe depression or anxiety. The actual nature of the pain will differ. However, the sense that it can be seen by others remains the same.

Chiron in the 2nd House

This native may not have had enough material necessities such as food, shelter and appropriate clothes, as a child. The scar of being poor may stay with him, even if he becomes prosperous. The fear of going back to poverty may haunts him. This is his pain.

Chiron in the 3rd House

This native, likely, felt pain associated with communication. He may have stuttered, had a learning disability or extreme shyness. Communication is, usually, the theme of the 3rd House but it may be siblings, early school experiences or something happening in the neighborhood. All the latter are 3rd House arenas, but I find that communication is, usually, the most common 3rd House domain.

Chiron in the 4th House

This is mine. My pain centers around my mother. I never had a single moment in life, to date, when I have not felt pain upon having my mother. I suppose I should amend that. I have had some, but few. The 4th House is one’s early childhood home. Chiron shows a great deal of pain in childhood and, usually, from the mother.

Chiron in the 5th House

This native feels pain upon being creative. He feels pain upon letting go and being childlike. I think this is one of the hardest Chiron placements because creativity has been such a wonderful outlet for me that I cannot imagine pain associated therein.

Chiron in the 6th House

This native may have health issues. If not, he may feel obsessed with doing a good job/perfect job and the accompanying pain therein.

Chiron in the 7th House

This native may have pain with marriage and/or serious relationships.

Chiron in the 8th House

This native seems to try to be better than his animal nature. One has an animal nature, whether or not one agrees. If one tries to rise above it, to a neurotic degree, one will have a self made prison. In truth, the native is the same as any human being. It is just not okay to be down and dirty. This applies to emotions as well as bodily passions. I think this Chiron is one of the hardest.

Chiron in the 9th House

This native seems to have pain in the struggle to find God. If not this, he may have desired higher education, but found many barriers or struggles therein.

Chiron in the 10th House

This native seems to feel as if she does not belong in “polite” society. She feels she has something that may make her feel as if she is not acceptable. This may be a sense of failure in career. It may be feeling ashamed to be one race in a society in which another race predominates. It may be feeling ashamed of one’s background in some way. If not this, career may be fraught with pain.

Chiron in the 11th House

This Chiron may have had his hopes and dreams shattered. The 11th House is, also, groups, as well as doing charitable work for those in far away places. Any of these arenas could be sources of pain for the 11th House Chiron native.

Chiron in the 12th

This Chiron seems to deny his own pain. It seems to come out sideways, in some manner to which he is not aware, such as an addiction, for one example.

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posted October 29, 2015 07:59 AM            

I was not sure if this was supposed to be in the Asteroid Forum or here. It is more of a planet than an asteroid, it seems to me, but feel free to move it, if you think that Forum is the right one xxxx

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posted October 29, 2015 01:06 PM            

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posted October 29, 2015 03:41 PM            

I have Chiron in my 7th, and partnership has been one of the most healing things in my life.

We look through a negative lens or a positive one. Don't allow the past or its pains to keep a negative lens over your eye to the future.

posted October 29, 2015 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
Lovely thread, thank you Ami!

Another chiron in the 4th reporting.
But mine is conjunct Júpiter, so I guess jupiter worked its magic there because I've always had a good relationship with my family.

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Thank you, I! Jupiter and venus do modify the 4th House Chiron placement.

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posted October 29, 2015 03:56 PM            

You and I have to agree to disagree on Chiron, as well as many other things. People can disagree and not be disagreeable. I strive for that and hope you do, too.

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posted October 29, 2015 04:00 PM            

Chiron was discovered on 18 October 1977. So it's still relatively new in our conscious awareness and it's going to take a while longer for us to figure out its ultimate meaning.

Magi astrology thought they had Chiron all figured out by 2000 and they put out a lot of definitive statements about it, which have not stood the test of time.

Chiron has a painful aspect. That is undeniable. I do not believe it's responsible for the worst pain one can have. I have already said that Chiron's pain may be heightened if in your natal, Chiron is "afflicted" and by that I mean it being under challenging aspects from Pluto, Uranus, and/or Neptune, as it was for generations from the early 1950s to the 1990s. When you get someone born during those times, yes their Chiron can be an excruciating source of pain.

posted October 29, 2015 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Chiron was the 'wounded healer' which means that he was a healer. In no way is 'pain' a summary word for Chiron or its position in the chart. It does signify healing process -- IF we allow it.

I have Chiron in my 7th, and partnership has been one of the most healing things in my life.

We look through a negative lens or a positive one. Don't allow the past or its pains to keep a negative lens over your eye to the future.

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posted October 29, 2015 04:25 PM            

However, it is a functional one.

My work involves helping others heal

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posted October 29, 2015 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
In my natal, Chiron is in the 11th house. I don't think I have 11th house issues. However, Chiron is opposimg Uranus in my 5th house, and squaring Neptune in my 8th, and I would say those are houses where I have felt Chironic pain. In fact, I have had to use Chiron and its 11th house qualities to get over the 5th and 8th house pains.

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What I have seen with 11th most is hopes and dreams. Saturn in the 11th seems to have problems with groups, based on my experience with charts.

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posted October 29, 2015 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What I have seen with 11th most is hopes and dreams. Saturn in the 11th seems to have problems with groups, based on my experience with charts.

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posted October 29, 2015 05:39 PM            

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posted October 29, 2015 05:46 PM            

The thing about Chiron is the LEVEL of pain. Each person can taste the pain of many Houses, however the deepest and most significant pain will be the House of Chiron. If not, the time of birth is wrong imo.

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posted October 29, 2015 06:01 PM            

Sorry to hear about your mother. And I agree, having chiron around the IC is probably the worst.

As for me, I have never connected with the "pain" part of chiron. Mine is in the 3rd house and I've read so many articles/ descriptions and can't seem to grasp how it relates. I've never had any communication problems. I was advanced in those skills as a child. No pain around siblings either. We have great relationships, including the ones I have with my step-siblings...I don't know.

posted October 29, 2015 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by bananaz:
Hi Ami

Sorry to hear about your mother. And I agree, having chiron around the IC is probably the worst.

As for me, I have never connected with the "pain" part of chiron. Mine is in the 3rd house and I've read so many articles/ descriptions and can't seem to grasp how it relates. I've never had any communication problems. I was advanced in those skills as a child. No pain around siblings either. We have great relationships, including the ones I have with my step-siblings...I don't know.

The healer part does makes sense though. I work as a writer and I do find work to be healing sometimes. But definitely, no pain or past scars in that area

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Thank you, B!

Do you relate to the Houses on either side of it.

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posted October 30, 2015 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Piscean Tigress:
Kannon, I think you are right too, there is a healing and a pain theme with Chiron; you feel the good side, but I feel both...

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I think that is the point. The appropriate keyword for Chiron is "wounded healer," not "pain."

You can't be wounded without pain. But you also can't ignore the "healing" potential.

Depending upon the rest of the chart, the maturity of the individual, and any number of other factors, the extent to whether pain or healing is prominent (or equal) at any given time will vary.

posted October 30, 2015 05:23 PM            

Very good for emotional healing.

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posted October 30, 2015 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Chiron in the 8th House

This native seems to try to be better than his animal nature. One has an animal nature, whether or not one agrees. If one tries to rise above it, to a neurotic degree, one will have a self made prison. In truth, the native is the same as any human being. It is just not okay to be down and dirty. This applies to emotions as well as bodily passions. I think this Chiron is one of the hardest.

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i find that theres alot of chiron in 8th house people in my life and one thing in common with them all is that they're slaves to their animal nature. they're not as good as fighting against it and any other type of tempations. can't stay away from sex, can't stay away from drinks/cigarettes, over eating.