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Topic: Being put in the middle
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3l3n Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 31, 2015 08:55 AM
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3731 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 31, 2015 10:55 AM
Do you have prominent Pluto-anything? I am starting to think Pluto is the culprit for many things in my life :-/ I have Pluto sq Sun and Moon and ironically, I have ALWAYS been put in the middle of my parents (Sun+Moon) and blamed for the most ridiculous things OR friends have leaned too heavily on me. Plutonians also tend to take lots of sh1t from non-Plutonians as they desperately try to out-power us. At least that's how I see it. It's as if they either want our strength or want to demolish it from Earth altogether. IP: Logged |
3l3n Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 31, 2015 11:06 AM
Pluto is on my IC Libra, trines Venus.- IP: Logged |
missblyss Knowflake Posts: 174 From: Registered: May 2016
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posted October 31, 2015 07:26 PM
Oh definitely PLUTO! My Pluto friends are always blamed for everything... Your powerful, transformative energy can pull things out of people. Those things belong to THEM, but because your powerful energy can expose them- they like to blame you!IP: Logged |
3l3n Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 31, 2015 07:38 PM
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4275 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 31, 2015 08:01 PM
I would theorize based on Bowen triangulation theory in family systems therapy that being put in the middle is a NEPTUNE thing; you become the symptom and easy target to use as a scapegoat which is the result of poor boundaries in the first place and is easy to project unto a neptunian individual your own issues and make them the 'problem' martyr. What does neptune rule in your chart, what house does it fall in and what placements does it make? Can you please post your chart? IP: Logged |
3l3n Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 31, 2015 08:15 PM
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Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 533 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 31, 2015 08:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by 3l3n: Are there any aspects/placements in a chart that would show what makes one be always placed in the middle of others relationship problems?I'm going through a phase again in which a couple of friends around me are all of a sudden needing a little independence from their partners.. Somehow, again I have been blamed and insulted by their partners, who have rarely really met me. Telling me things as though I was the cause of my friends suddenly wanting this independence and going out to have a little fun. Tbh, I have had this occuring in my life from a very young age, being stuck in the middle of my mothers and sisters quarrels and ego. Always pulling me in directions to take sides, or take the blame for them being who they are at the moment. I have a lot more similar stories but these are enough I think to give an idea of what I mean. I have enough worries in my life to deal with, the last thing I need is others putting more problems on me for absolutely no reason!
Do you have 12th house placements, especially personal planets in the 12th? I've got Sun-Venus-Mars-Mercury in 12th, and people constantly try to use me as their scapegoat. As I've gotten older, I've learned to spot it immediately, and I coat check them on it. I just got fed up with it. Now, if anyone tries to do it, I just tell them point blank, "Don't try to make me your scapegoat, and quit your blameshifting. You own your own crap." Surprisingly, they usually stop. Often, they don't even realize they were doing it. 12th house energy can make people feel like you're a screen, and they can project whatever they want to on you. So, I'd say 12th or Neptune may be involved. Edit: Oops, looks like hypatia already covered that. So, basically, yeah, what she said You posted your chart while I was typing, and nope, no 12th, but I think that your Pisces Sun in a tight trine with your DC ruler in your 1st might have something to do with it. Also, there's a T-square between your Neptune, your N.Node, and your Pisces Mars on your S.Node. That's a powerful T-square that seems to be almost forcing you to deal with this sort of energy. With your Nodal axis involved, this is something you will probably deal with a lot as part of your soul-growth in life.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4275 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 31, 2015 08:39 PM
WOW Neptune rules your SUN and squares your SUN and MARS, I think that would make you an easy target/victim for triangulation and an easy scapegoat. I would say specially Neptune ruling your SUN and squaring your MARS can explain this IMO. Sorry to hear you deal with this since you were a child, I suggest that when drama pops up in your life with people around you that you set your boundaries and DISTANCE yourself until things settle to avoid getting sucked in and used as a scapegoat. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4275 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 31, 2015 08:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Wild Horses: Do you have 12th house placements, especially personal planets in the 12th? I've got Sun-Venus-Mars-Mercury in 12th, and people constantly try to use me as their scapegoat.As I've gotten older, I've learned to spot it immediately, and I coat check them on it. I just got fed up with it. Now, if anyone tries to do it, I just tell them point blank, "Don't try to make me your scapegoat, and quit your blameshifting. You own your own crap." Surprisingly, they usually stop. Often, they don't even realize they were doing it.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4275 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 31, 2015 08:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Wild Horses: You posted your chart while I was typing, and nope, no 12th, but I think that your Pisces Sun in a tight trine with your DC ruler in your 1st might have something to do with it. Also, there's a T-square between your Neptune, your N.Node, and your Pisces Mars on your S.Node. That's a powerful T-square that seems to be almost forcing you to deal with this sort of energy. With your Nodal axis involved, this is something you will probably deal with a lot as part of your soul-growth in life.
^Further neptune is at the apex of that tsquare so yeah ! can we say scapegoat since the apex is the point of release. IP: Logged |
3l3n Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 31, 2015 09:15 PM
Nice to know. Thanks for explaining!I could imagine the 12th house would also be brought into these type of situations. I have already started to put my foot down concerning this matter or even painfully distancing myself from those who provoke these kind of situations. Thanks all for your help
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