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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted November 04, 2015 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone else have this in their charts? If you do, how is your love life like? How were your past relationships like? Were you ever transformed by every single one of them, or just one very important one? How did you deal with the intensity of Pluto? Do you always try to act superficial because the intensity scares you and you're scared it'll scare other people, too? Also, how do you feel about your sexuality?

LOL sorry for the many questions. I just really wanna learn about this aspect.

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MarsSaturnDelight
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posted November 04, 2015 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarsSaturnDelight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wish I didn't have it really. It's not the best aspect to be honest. Possibly, I may not have evolved and learnt to deal with the aspect the best I could have.

Relationships are ok, but can be tough. I also have other tough aspects that compound this so its hard to differentiate. I tend to have insane inner struggles and unfortunately, my Venus sits in my first house whilst Pluto conjunction my MC, so my struggles are there for the world to see. However, I do find relationships transforming, although I don't see this quality restricted to this aspect.

I've learnt to embrace my sexuality, I was a late starter and awkward when I was young. But now I'm grown up, handsome and sexy: I don't care

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margym0o
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posted November 04, 2015 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One word: sucksssssssssssssssssssss (I have it almost exact).

Depends what other aspects you have going on too of course, but it makes relationships very powerful and life-altering. To feel anything less than that though, just doesn't seem right.

Mine has always been pretty steady - when I commit I commit for a while. There's no such thing as a petty fling in my books (Venus trine Saturn almost exact). As a result all of my relationships have ended up transforming me in one way or another. My first long (5 year) relationship was volatile - control, manipulation and obsession were the themes. My next relationship was easy in comparison but I had to move to another country to be with him (and then ultimately moved back). The next one felt like a waste at the end because he never really loved me and I always felt like I had to prove something to him. My current relationship...same kind of struggles but I feel like I've met my match because he is very Plutonian as well and we are working through our issues together. I think we are both deathly afraid of losing each other which is a heavy burden to carry with this placement. The fear of abandonment is always present (hence the control, power struggles etc.) so you always feel like you're waiting for the other shoe to drop. It's very tough to let go and just "be."

I feel like this and other similar placements take a lot of maturity to conquer. Not until you've been through a few heartbreaks do you realize what YOU are doing to sabotage your relationships. Being conscious and being aware are a daily struggle. It takes someone with a lot of patience or someone willing to go into the depths with you to manage it.

Sexually I think again you need someone who can match your intensity or else it will never be satisfying. I think the primal "drive" depends on the individual because the thoughts and urges definitely started young.

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Bekzilla
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posted November 04, 2015 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bekzilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this, but it's loose, thank god!! Can't imagine how I'd fair if it were tighter, because even now I feel it's strong at only 6 degrees (Pluto-heavy chart though). I've sensed in myself a tendency to become obsessed, and I too always feel like the other shoe is about to drop. I can never just be comfortable in love. There must always be some fear attached, some drama, something that feels taboo, or there's guilt of some kind. It's not that I want it that way (at least not consciously), but it seems to just happen.

I also struggled with my sexuality when I was younger, thinking that my desires were bad. I have now embraced, shall we say, all the wild weirdness though, and I love it! But yes, also need a partner who is a little crazy otherwise... meh. I definitely look at the act of sex as a power struggle, but in a good/pleasurable way. Luckily my fiance's and my Venuses trine each others Uranuses, so YAY there!

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posted November 04, 2015 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
But now I'm grown up, handsome and sexy: I don't care

LOL You must be pretty damn sexy. That confidence is outrageous.

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I see everyone here seems to have experienced the same type of stuff I've been experiencing. Although I've never really been in a real relationship (call it commitment-phobia if you want), I've been entangled in a love triangle before and it was nuts. It changed me too, like Pluto said.

It's pretty hard dealing with this aspect when you're only 18. Guess all I can do is just be aware when it starts leaking its horrendous scent.

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posted November 04, 2015 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpAqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Venus at the end of Sagittarius squares Pluto at the start of Libra.

When I was younger I used to be the manipulator in a relationship in attempts to hold power. I don't do it now because I realise it never ever works in the end. It's important to be consciously aware of this tendency and resist it no matter how much it hurts your ego.

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posted November 04, 2015 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Readytochill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I see everyone here seems to have experienced the same type of stuff I've been experiencing. Although I've never really been in a real relationship (call it commitment-phobia if you want), I've been entangled in a love triangle before and it was nuts. It changed me too, like Pluto said.

It's pretty hard dealing with this aspect when you're only 18. Guess all I can do is just be aware when it starts leaking its horrendous scent.


I feel your pain. Love triangles suck but gotta love the transformation Pluto brings!

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MarsSaturnDelight
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posted November 05, 2015 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarsSaturnDelight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpAqua:
My Venus at the end of Sagittarius squares Pluto at the start of Libra.

When I was younger I used to be the manipulator in a relationship in attempts to hold power. I don't do it now because I realise it never ever works in the end. It's important to be consciously aware of this tendency and resist it no matter how much it hurts your ego.


Agree with this. It also helps to find the right partner. For instance, my wife is emotionally mature and somehow doesn't catalase this aspect of manipulation/power struggle, if that makes sense - we have great synastry.

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mamawolf
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posted November 06, 2015 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamawolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bf has a loose opposition but still seems pretty present. Is the square much harder to deal with? We've been dating for six months and it's been intense from the start but I have venus 8H and a lot of plutonian energy so I feel like I have been able to handle it well and help him through it. Oh boy it's crazy

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Steph22922
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posted November 06, 2015 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph22922     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by margym0o:

Depends what other aspects you have going on too of course, but it makes relationships very powerful and life-altering. To feel anything less than that though, just doesn't seem right.


That's how I feel as well. I hate superficial relationships and crave depth of feeling. But often with those that can match my feelings of intensity there is alot of conflict, manipulation and control that ultimately makes it too much too handle. I usually reach a point where I cut the person out of my life and swear I'm done with relationships with people like that but once I've spent time with more superficial people I get tired of it and find someone else to have a 'plutonian' relationship with. It seems to be a cycle for me lol

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