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AstroAJ
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posted November 11, 2015 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trying to hear from anyone who has experienced 7th house Neptune transit.

Mine is just beginning and wondering what can I do to guard against over self-sacrificing, seeing through rose colored glasses, and using escapism (everything I've read about this transit) in my partnerships over the next 14 years.

I've just entered into a new relationship that is going great! However always in the back of my mind I am wondering "Am I seeing this clearly? Am I going to 'wake up' in 14 years and wonder wth I was thinking?"

If you're not in a relationship when this transit begins, and supposedly you cannot see relationships clearly during this time, how can we feel confident in succeeding??

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posted November 11, 2015 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Piscese DSC natally and undergoing Neptune transit now. It started 2-3 years ago. I have been involved with current bf for about 9 years. But I met someone else about two years ago who I feel so much attracted to and more connected. So I can understand your feeling. I wonder if Neptune transit only brings bad influence.

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posted November 11, 2015 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Redefine success. Do the best you can to be a good and fair person in relationships. Be open to learning about what your flaws are and also what does and doesn't work for you. What a waste of time and energy if you spend years of your life letting that little voice in the back of your mind lead you to self sabotage.

I went through this transit before I knew about astrology. I learned to love people for who they are, whether or not I was going to live the rest of my life with them. This and other transits demanded that I start being honest with myself about how I can share love with someone instead of trying to capitalize on love (and attracting people who wanted to do the same with me).

The themes of this transit continued or wrapped up in my 8th house. It's a great astro course to have in the college of growing up.

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posted November 11, 2015 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyHekate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune has just moved into my 8th house, (which he rules natally), and won't retrograde into my 7th again. All I can say is 'phew'!!

The most significant relationship that I had during this time was the most deceptive one that I have ever experienced, to the extent that I ended up in psychotherapy where the psychotherapist was of the view that I had been "brainwashed" - as I mentioned Neptune rules my 8th and I lost both a child and my mind, (Mercury/Neptune natal conjunction in 4th,) during my relationship with him. He was drugging me, which I found out by accident - very Neptunian, I'd say. The transformation, (I also had transiting Pluto (4R and dispositor of Neptune) conjunct my Sun (1R) at the time, was a true dark night of the soul experience, (like being on hallucinogens 24/7 for 2-3 years) and I now have mild, though not irreparable, brain damage.

My advice would be to trust your own gut instinct in relation to others; trust it the first time you sense that something is wrong, act on it and do not deviate from your position AT ALL. Neptune is only illusory and deceptive when we allow ourselves to be deceived. Look at the aspects that Neptune makes natally to see how he will operate generally, and look for any major transits of his dispositor to see when the energy might be activated. Look at the house he rules to see in what way you will experience the energy.

And aside from intimate partnerships, be wary also of business partnerships. Despite written contracts being in place, I had the wool pulled over my eyes in the workplace too; twice. Again, I did not trust, or act upon, my gut instinct in that area, to my detriment.

On a positive note, I have never experienced such an acceleration in spiritual growth than I have over the past 7 or so years. Be prepared for synchronistic/magical/other-worldly events in your environment, seek out others who are on a spiritual path, (they may cross your path anyway, as happened to me), and trust implicitly only those who you know that you can.

I 'woke up' during this transit; I felt as if the bubble that I had lived in my entire life, burst and that my previous perception of my environment was false. I was initially shocked to the core with that alone. I left my profession to concentrate on astrology too...

In short, be prepared to have your own perceptions challenged in how you relate to others and your environment. And trust, trust, trust, your own self.

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posted November 11, 2015 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyHekate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 12, 2015 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Redefine success. Do the best you can to be a good and fair person in relationships. Be open to learning about what your flaws are and also what does and doesn't work for you. What a waste of time and energy if you spend years of your life letting that little voice in the back of your mind lead you to self sabotage.

I went through this transit before I knew about astrology. I learned to love people for who they are, whether or not I was going to live the rest of my life with them. This and other transits demanded that I start being honest with myself about how I can share love with someone instead of trying to capitalize on love (and attracting people who wanted to do the same with me).

The themes of this transit continued or wrapped up in my 8th house. It's a great astro course to have in the college of growing up.



YES!! I love this outlook! Neptune has been dancing back and forth over my DSC 7 Pisces for the passed year or 2 and I can definitely feel compassion growing in my heart. I have become softer, easier on myself, and easier on others.

Neptune house transits really intrigue me because if you believe in reincarnation and that your soul has chosen a certain lifetime for specific lessons Neptune transits seem very intentional because they are so long, and because they only get through so many houses in a lifetime.

Those of us who have the 7th house neptune transit definitely came here in part to learn important relationship lessons.

At any rate I appreciate your positive words. I want to focus on the positive aspects of this transit and how I can focus on bringing more of those into my relationship experiences.

One of the positives you mentioned loving people for who they really are. I like that one.
More compassion for others is a big one. What are ALL the positives of Neptune in the 7th??

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posted November 12, 2015 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HappyHekate:
Neptune has just moved into my 8th house, (which he rules natally), and won't retrograde into my 7th again. All I can say is 'phew'!!

The most significant relationship that I had during this time was the most deceptive one that I have ever experienced, to the extent that I ended up in psychotherapy where the psychotherapist was of the view that I had been "brainwashed" - as I mentioned Neptune rules my 8th and I lost both a child and my mind, (Mercury/Neptune natal conjunction in 4th,) during my relationship with him. He was drugging me, which I found out by accident - very Neptunian, I'd say. The transformation, (I also had transiting Pluto (4R and dispositor of Neptune) conjunct my Sun (1R) at the time, was a true dark night of the soul experience, (like being on hallucinogens 24/7 for 2-3 years) and I now have mild, though not irreparable, brain damage.

I 'woke up' during this transit; I felt as if the bubble that I had lived in my entire life, burst and that my previous perception of my environment was false. I was initially shocked to the core with that alone. I left my profession to concentrate on astrology too...

In short, be prepared to have your own perceptions challenged in how you relate to others and your environment. And trust, trust, trust, your own self.


Wow HH that sounds deceitfully horrible!! How long did that relationship last for? I hope you made it through the bubble okay and you are able to recover. That does not sound like something you'd be able to bounce back quickly from. I am glad to hear you had a positive side to the experience as well!

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posted November 12, 2015 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. I'm glad you understood me. I like what you had to say about choosing this life in order to work on relationships. It's something to really think about.

The positives of Neptune transiting 7? It's said that you will idealize your partner, which makes long-term sustainability of a relationship difficult, but it can work out in a way that you can see, and show your partner their higher self. This can be a time for uplifting, counseling, and building others, and if you give with a pure heart, and good intention (not self sacrifice, but give when you can), you will be full of light and joy, even when it's time to feel some pain.

I think you'll love others and be hurt by them, and learn what it means to love yourself better. Loving yourself increases love and acceptance for others, and then they or you might hurt you again, but never put up walls. Learn your limits and boundaries, but don't hide behind walls. Follow your heart. You can never be blamed for following your heart.

I have to thank YOU. I hadn't given my experiences that much thought. Transits are awesome because they allow you to group what seem like scattered lessons together as an event.

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posted November 13, 2015 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscean Tigress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

I have Neptune in Asc and I am Pisces Sun in house 4th, so I'm Neptunian. My Neptune is opposite my moon-DSC conjunction

Two years ago I was in a 18 years relationship, and suddenly, I met someone online (at that time my Neptune was conjunct exact my Amor and Juno asteroids in house 4th ans square my Moon and DSC).

Was a sudden and I can say "spiritual" atraction, beyond anything I have felt before... I believed I have found my "soulmate" (our synatry and composites chart show some soulmate markers); but we live in different cities and never knew each other.

I cheated, my partner found that and we broke up...

This long distant relationship lasted 1 year and 5 months; and suddenly, the online guy dissappeared and never answer my calls and texts... he found another woman and 3 months ago, my long term boyfriend came back...

that year and 5 months was the time that my neptune conjunct Amor and Juno asteroids. The online guy texted me one mounth ago for "bussiness affairs" (now he lives in my city with his girlfriend), and I broke all type of communication with him forever... and my longterm relationship has ups and downs since the break off.

Neptune can be very tricky, and today I say "what the hell I did??" but I must confess, I feel alive again, and I don't have regrets about that, although I have been deceived by the boy online...

I'm just waiting what the Neptune transits will bring to my life when it hits my NN, Mercury, Ceres and Sun in Pisces... I hope that will be peace and unconditional love to anything

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posted November 13, 2015 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bear9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
30 years ago Neptune was on my DSC. I was engaged and shortly after that transit entered 7th house I woke up to reality and decided to leave. It coincided with Saturn exiting my sun sign too and that had equal impact to force me leaving. Also had these aspects happen...

Moon progressed from Capricorn into Aquarius
Midheaven progressed from Pisces to Aries

I could feel something building and was in tentative watch mode for about 6 months leading up to this. I was trying to decide what I was doing and what was right and if we would work. I wasn't into astrology back then and internet didn't exist anyway. lol

It was the best decision I ever made. I spent the Neptune in 7th house years working in unfoggy things (law) to pay for school to get a degree in finance. It was good...great years actually. I have saturn in house 9 natally though so I loved the school thing instead of the road to dutiful spouse cooking and cleaning.

Neptune can fog but with other planets in play it can have effect of blowing fog aside a bit so you can see reality and make different decisions. So try not to worry. This is a huge opportunity time in your life to review your relationships and maybe make some changes, either stay or leave etc. It's up to you.

Wish you all the best. Post your chart maybe so we can see what else is at play. Maybe there is something good to counteract what is making you worry. (eg. a moon in aquarius is great for cutting through fog I think; an MC in Aries is huge positive beneficial change from nebulous foggy pisces)

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posted November 13, 2015 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The issue here is if Neptune is already tense in your natal chart. In that case, off course Neptune's transits accross the chart won't feel positive.

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Life is a school. Relationships whether they last 5 months or 60 years are teachers.
Neptune on the 7th is not just intimate relationships being dreamy or questioned but your relationship with the world and how you see it and interact with it.
that 1/7 line we must remember as that, not 2 houses.
Confidence in succeeding may never be there in the normal sense as Neptune now in Pisces op Jp is dissolving and creating NEW realities, not all on its own ofcourse.
Will be difficult to determine the flow,but go with the flow is the trend.
A very spiritually minded partner? Someone who helps you get through to the new world
or enhances your understanding of what we cannot touch with fingers.

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posted November 14, 2015 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune is transiting my 7th and Pluto in my 5th--I haven't had a solid love life interest/love life since 2008...:/

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posted November 15, 2015 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my DCS in Pisces at 12 deg. and transiting Neptune will enter my 7th house next year. Neptune is quite strong in my natal chart, it trine Venus and square my Sun and I also have Venus in the 12th house… In the past I experienced a lot of deception in love. Some of it was due to my unrealistic expectations but I also met dishonest people so I could do nothing about it. I learned a lot from my experiences and I am extremely cautious now when I meet new people and potential partners, try to detect all the red flags well in advance, etc. …

Of course I am afraid of this transit but I can’t really imagine how it can get any worse for me in terms of romantic deception and disappointment which I am so familiar with. I think I am quite well equipped now to deal with this kind of issues.

Any more inputs from persons who have Pisces on DSC or in the 7th house and are now experiencing this transit? Is Neptune strong in your natal charts and if so, did it help you to deal with this transit or did it make things worse?

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posted November 15, 2015 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it would be slightly tragic to think of a 7th House Neptune transit of being single for 14 years...

There are tons of people with the same ascendant as you who'll be having that neptune transit in the 7th and they won't have doomed relationships for 14 years.

If you want to have good relationships, work on yourself first...

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posted November 15, 2015 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AstroAJ:
Trying to hear from anyone who has experienced 7th house Neptune transit.

Mine is just beginning and wondering what can I do to guard against over self-sacrificing, seeing through rose colored glasses, and using escapism (everything I've read about this transit) in my partnerships over the next 14 years.

I've just entered into a new relationship that is going great! However always in the back of my mind I am wondering "Am I seeing this clearly? Am I going to 'wake up' in 14 years and wonder wth I was thinking?"

If you're not in a relationship when this transit begins, and supposedly you cannot see relationships clearly during this time, how can we feel confident in succeeding??


Couldn't we ALL get into a relationship that lasts 14 years (a very very long time IMO), and then leave it and be like "okay so that's over."?

My point is, that is an era in your life you could spend with someone. Maybe it'll end in 14 years, or maybe it will be such a concrete part of you at that point, after so much time, that you will be able to weather the storm coming out of it.

My fear with transits (I've stopped looking ahead at them) is that we all doom ourselves and throw self-fulfilling prophecies out there that undermine what is budding, growing, positive in our lives.

Astrology is great and a fun tool that we're all benefiting from here on this forum, but do not dread a decade + ahead of you with upcoming transits.

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posted November 17, 2015 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bear9:

Neptune can fog but with other planets in play it can have effect of blowing fog aside a bit so you can see reality and make different decisions. So try not to worry. This is a huge opportunity time in your life to review your relationships and maybe make some changes, either stay or leave etc. It's up to you.

Wish you all the best. Post your chart maybe so we can see what else is at play. Maybe there is something good to counteract what is making you worry. (eg. a moon in aquarius is great for cutting through fog I think; an MC in Aries is huge positive beneficial change from nebulous foggy pisces)



Thanks for sharing your experience! Nataly I have Neptune conj. Merc and also widely to Sun. Also opposite Moon. So yeah I'd say it plays a pretty big role nataly! Heres the chart maybe you can see something to add!

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posted November 17, 2015 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Couldn't we ALL get into a relationship that lasts 14 years (a very very long time IMO), and then leave it and be like "okay so that's over."?

My fear with transits (I've stopped looking ahead at them) is that we all doom ourselves and throw self-fulfilling prophecies out there that undermine what is budding, growing, positive in our lives.

Astrology is great and a fun tool that we're all benefiting from here on this forum, but do not dread a decade + ahead of you with upcoming transits.


Cappi-yes! I agree a 14 year could maybe be plenty long enough! I can see the benefits of stopping looking forward at transits. Thus far with transits I've stayed away from trying to predict or look at the future. I've focused more on analyzing transits that are happening currently and in the past. But the more I learn and study I can't help but start to try and peer into the future a bit with transits as well. (even dabbled a tiny bit in progressions) It's a natural curiosity for us all.

It has been helpful to hear other's frame of mind when they know of a big transit coming for them too. I guess there is really no way to be better prepared for major transits. But it has helped to hear positive experiences of Neptune in the 7th to not get stuck on negative thinking.

Not living in dread over here-promise!! (maybe the posting title was slightly dramatic)

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posted November 17, 2015 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Septembergirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune is transiting in my 1st house, closing in on my natal moon. I feel like I can't trust my feelings, intuition, or gut feelings. Wondering if that is why I am feeling that way?

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posted November 20, 2015 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This transit does not have to signify doomed relationships. Only if and when transiting neptune is making hard aspects to your natal planets would I be concerned and really pay attention.
Also pay attention to how other transiting planets are affecting transiting neptune. For instance the upcoming T saturn square T neptune might be a challenging time but the nature of this particular transit is more about losing illusions than being fooled or being self sacrificing.

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posted November 23, 2015 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
other transiting planets are affecting transiting neptune. For instance the upcoming T saturn square T neptune might be a challenging time but the nature of this particular transit is more about losing illusions than being fooled or being self sacrificing.

"losing illusions" By this do you mean getting rid of illusions that were present in your life?

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posted November 23, 2015 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transits do not predict what is in store for us. They are indicators of what energy we need to work on/what we will focus on as time goes by. They are just possibilites/opportunities.

When I started university, I had some harsh Saturn aspects. (Square MC, Square Mars, Opposite Sun). I was aware of this before I started, and expected 'bad' things. It was the most transformative part of my life, in the most positive way possible.

My point is, just because you might have (Neptune in 7th) or (Pluto harsh aspects), it doesn't indicate bad things. (I agree with Cappi112 about SFP's). It's an OPPORTUNITY to GROW/EXPERIENCE.

Everything the universe throws at us, we have to control it in the best possible manner. Even the 'lucky, beneficial' transits. Just remember nothing rarely comes to you, you have to be active about everything and perhaps you'll see that the transits will basically complement you on your ventures, if you do the right thing.

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posted November 23, 2015 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take a look at planets in your 7th and/or planets that Neptune will aspect while passing through. I don't think the Neptune transit will be so significant if it does not aspect planets there.

But in general, Neptune passing through 7th will give you an opportunity to release relationships that are not real. In fact they may just dissolve before your eyes and leave you wondering where everyone went. It's a good thing because it opens you up to new relationships that are true to you and your core energies. Be true to yourself when dealing with others and stay within your own integrity.

7H matters do not only include relationships, but anything that brings change to your life. These changes will take you out of bounds if you don't stay true to your established ethics and principles, the ones that are innate to you. If you don't know what they are this transit can help you find out.

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posted June 16, 2016 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bear9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is old now but I've just figured out how to find posts I'm participating in.

I hope the OP is doing well :-) and everyone else too. This was a great discussion to read and participate in.

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