posted November 11, 2015 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Do you like any of the traditional domestic arts? Gardening, cooking, interior design, antiquing, handicrafts? It doesn't have to be all about family...

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Thanks faith for responding !!
Omg yes I love cooking ! And interior design! But im not obsessed with it I used to cook all the time I actually think that wouldn't be bad. Do you see this placement as a way of me living with my parents for the rest of my life? Or should I determine that with other placements?

posted November 11, 2015 04:12 PM            

Generally it's about creating your own family, and "putting down roots", but what that means is entirely personal.

posted November 11, 2015 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
It doesn't mean you'll have to live with your parents for the rest of your life, angel, it means you'll have to find a way to feel "at home" in your life... No matter where that is. You'll have to learn how to feel like you belong somewhere (it doesn't have to be a physical place either, it can just be feeling like you belong to the human race, or a very close community, or your family, etc).

Generally it's about creating your own family, and "putting down roots", but what that means is entirely personal.

It can also point to the fact that you're learning how to reconnect with the deepest parts of yourself and turn inward, away from the world (opposite 10H SN). Becoming aware of what's inside of you, of your familial/genetic heritage, and accepting all that you find.

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Thanks doux this helped a lot this makes sense how it doesn't havent pertain the family exactly I was also thinking that this placement Could also mean learning to create a family of my own or creating a home for myself as a sense of purpose as well. And yes I do see lots of contemplation myself and I do have to say I do love being at home or somewhere isolated I also love traveling and turning those new places into my own home <3

posted November 11, 2015 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well said, Doux, I was typing my reply and didn't see yours before I posted.

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Omg faith I forgot that you also have the NN in CAPPY yessssss it's like we were born and felt we were here to be in authority or obtain success as an authority. I was also thinking that Ive always wanted to do real estate as a way to earn income but income is more like the 2nd house which is either my venus in the 3rd house or my pluto in the 2nd lol! Thank you for your input it's nice have a CAPPY cheer me up

posted November 11, 2015 08:19 PM            

@Doux~

Yes it all resonates, especially the last part:

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It can also point to the fact that you're learning how to reconnect with the deepest parts of yourself and turn inward, away from the world (opposite 10H SN). Becoming aware of what's inside of you, of your familial/genetic heritage, and accepting all that you find.

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posted November 12, 2015 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
It doesn't mean you'll have to live with your parents for the rest of your life, angel, it means you'll have to find a way to feel "at home" in your life... No matter where that is. You'll have to learn how to feel like you belong somewhere (it doesn't have to be a physical place either, it can just be feeling like you belong to the human race, or a very close community, or your family, etc).

Generally it's about creating your own family, and "putting down roots", but what that means is entirely personal.

It can also point to the fact that you're learning how to reconnect with the deepest parts of yourself and turn inward, away from the world (opposite 10H SN). Becoming aware of what's inside of you, of your familial/genetic heritage, and accepting all that you find.

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posted November 12, 2015 09:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
No, I think 4H NN means you develop along the lines of nurturing others, maintaining a healthful homey "sphere"..you don't need a literal family at all to do this, nor an actual place of your own...just devote time to caring for others.

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posted November 12, 2015 09:10 AM            

However, despite being so Cancerian and 4th house focused, my family is NOT close and I really don't spend much time with them at all other than when I have to.

posted November 12, 2015 10:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
No, I think 4H NN means you develop along the lines of nurturing others, maintaining a healthful homey "sphere"..you don't need a literal family at all to do this, nor an actual place of your own...just devote time to caring for others. I think a person might even run an animal shelter as part of their 4H NN development.

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My s.o has 4th house taurus NN. Heh he does indeed run an animal shelter

posted November 12, 2015 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Heh he does indeed run an animal shelter

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
A lot of what you said rings true for him. He's not close to his birth family at all, what with being abandoned by them when he was small and being continuously burdened by them. He turns it into a lesson, and he finds his own meaning of nurturing and family.

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posted November 12, 2015 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
Although I'm still growing and learning about what I want in life, I do notice that I am distinctly focused on my self-development which I think is a result of this aspect and my natal placements. Connecting with who I am and making sure that my well being (mental, physical, emotional, etc.) is nourished and taken care of first is the KEY for my success I think and the key to being able to properly help others. Without self-nourishment/security I think that it is harder for Cancerian/4th house people to be successful more-so than other natal configurations.

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Great observation!

posted November 12, 2015 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

I'm not close to my birth family either. Hardly ever see my siblings & only contact them a few times per year. Hmm it's looking like this could be a 4H NN theme? Not being close to one's birth family...and re-defining what family is about, on one's own terms.

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I hope that's what it means cause my 12th/9th ruler is conjunct my IC in the 4th house (Mercury) which makes me feel im stuck with my family for life. 6th ruler in my 4th house as well (neptune) but conjuncts uranus in the 4th house so daily life with the family but somehow cut off eventually??

posted November 12, 2015 01:41 PM            

All of this could be interpreted as family disobedience, and going against the grain, breaking family tradition, rules, and ancestry, turning their back on their kinfolk, accompanying a familiar feeling of rejection. One with this position of Uranus is drastically altering the landscape and it is an indicator of the broken family. The strongest urge is not to be dependent on their familial roots. An intense desire for freedom from the past is felt, and adverse response to conditioning. Where Uranus is placed in the astrological chart is where we want to take full control of our own destiny. A feeling of restlessness and the need for space is present. Also the individual needs to feel a sense of freedom at home, a feeling of no obligations, and often creating a distanced relationship with one’s early roots. Uranus here may be an indicator of divorce of the parents, suggesting unease in ever feeling settled, with the unnerving sense that something is about to happen to ruffle the nest.

Often Uranus in the 4th house has carried feelings of not belonging, and home may feel more like an alien environment. Often feeling like outsiders, strangers and outcasts from their place of origin. The type is seen to rebel against tradition, social norms, and the expectations of the parents. A powerful sense of being uprooted, and there may have been some disruption in the early part of life, and this could be one that has created much anxiety. The person may experience plenty of upheaval on the domestic scene, chaos in the family home, and sometimes these things are not necessarily chosen, but something outside conspires and these events happen to the individual, upsetting the home itself. The person needs to possess an image of being independent, and different at home, and Uranus placed in this position never gets in ruts or stuck in routine

This and conjunxt my 6 ruler neptune in the 4th house

All of this applies to me

posted November 12, 2015 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
I hope that's what it means cause my 12th/9th ruler is conjunct my IC in the 4th house (Mercury) which makes me feel im stuck with my family for life. 6th ruler in my 4th house as well (neptune) but conjuncts uranus in the 4th house so daily life with the family but somehow cut off eventually??

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Natal charts show potential, but they should never be interpreted as black and white (imo). Just because a certain natal placement *may* incline one outcome, it doesn't mean that it can't manifest in a variety of other outcomes (albeit whatever the outcome it will still relate to that placement).

Say someone has Uranus in 7th. One manifestation is that the native can have disruptive/sudden relationships while another manifestation can be that the natives relationships are with people who are "eccentric" or Uranian in some way. Having an aspect does not mean that you are "doomed" for one specific outcome/destiny.

posted November 12, 2015 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
Natal charts show potential, but they should never be interpreted as black and white (imo). Just because a certain natal placement *may* incline one outcome, it doesn't mean that it can't manifest in a variety of other outcomes (albeit whatever the outcome it will still relate to that placement).

Say someone has Uranus in 7th. One manifestation is that the native can have disruptive/sudden relationships while another manifestation can be that the natives relationships are with people who are "eccentric" or Uranian in some way. Having an aspect does not mean that you are "doomed" for one specific outcome/destiny.

I hope that makes sense?

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would you think saturn returns? solar returns? and/or progressed charts can maybe tell me whether i will move out of my parents home?