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missblyss
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posted November 19, 2015 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GULP, I am panicking guys,

My daughter is my world. I'm a single mother- it's just been me and her since she was 9 months old (and really even before that). I breastfeed, do attachment parenting- I've never slept away from her.. In fact, she sleeps in my arms every night!

Can someone shine light on a POSITIVE side of these aspects? Any potential things to watch out for? I know if I consciously work with these energies, I can maintain what we have..

Moon conjunction Uranus orb +1°33'
Moon square Pluto orb +0°30'
Moon trine Mars orb +5°12'
Moon opposite Mercury orb -7°55'
Moon square Jupiter orb +7°31

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posted November 19, 2015 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ouch!! That moon square pluto is probably going to be the most difficult to handle. Please make sure you dont smother her and be too hard on her. I have that same orb in my chart too with the moon square pluto! I attract plenty intense situations! What sign is her moon in?

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posted November 19, 2015 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not hard on her at all! That is why it is so bizarre. I am very bonded with her, but I for sure wouldn't say I smother her... I feel like this has to be able to play out in a positive way, even if there ARE intense situations.... We are SO bonded, could it just come from that? Deep emotions with the closest person in your life kinda makes sense doesn't it? I just can simply not imagine me ever doing anything to hurt her. I love her unconditionally, but respect and honor her as a person... and her freedom.

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posted November 19, 2015 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starxd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon conjunct Uranus - independent & unique
Moon trine Mars - passionate, full of life
Moon opposite Mercury - witty storyteller
Moon square Jupiter & Pluto - feels deeply; quick to accept and forgive others

But should be noted that the square Jupiter also indicates "overindulgence by mom." I have that aspect. My mother and I are incredibly bonded. Unfortunately, we became kind of codependent because of an abuse situation we were in.

You're mom. So, you know best. But codependency with you isn't going to help with the challenges her pluto is going to present in relating with others. Maybe you should experiment with letting her sleep in her own bed? Let her go to a sleep over or something? Maybe she's still a baby. I can't tell by your wording.

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posted November 19, 2015 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by missblyss:
I'm not hard on her at all! That is why it is so bizarre. I am very bonded with her, but I for sure wouldn't say I smother her... I feel like this has to be able to play out in a positive way, even if there ARE intense situations.... We are SO bonded, could it just come from that? Deep emotions with the closest person in your life kinda makes sense doesn't it? I just can simply not imagine me ever doing anything to hurt her. I love her unconditionally, but respect and honor her as a person... and her freedom.

I am exactly the same as you! My daughter also has Moon sq Pluto ánd she has Pluto in 4th house and Moon in 1st. We are extremely bonded but ... yes the danger is she is too attached to me. I want her to be independant though and respect her freedom. We as moms can only do so much. THis energy is what she chose, it's what she has to handle with. Meaning, it's in herself. We came together to work on that. Lovely! That's the way I am seeing it now. Hugs!!

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posted November 19, 2015 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starxd:
Moon conjunct Uranus - independent & unique
Moon trine Mars - passionate, full of life
Moon opposite Mercury - witty storyteller
Moon square Jupiter & Pluto - feels deeply; quick to accept and forgive others

But should be noted that the square Jupiter also indicates "overindulgence by mom." I have that aspect. My mother and I are incredibly bonded. Unfortunately, we became kind of codependent because of an abuse situation we were in.

You're mom. So, you know best. But codependency with you isn't going to help with the challenges her pluto is going to present in relating with others. Maybe you should experiment with letting her sleep in her own bed? Let her go to a sleep over or something? Maybe she's still a baby. I can't tell by your wording.


Thank you SO much! Yes, I can see the overindulgence aspect... I want to give her whatever she wants. I would do anything to see her smile

She is only 2 years old. I wouldn't necessarily mind her sleeping in another bed, but at this point, i don't think she would!

Thank you for putting a positive spin on things

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posted November 19, 2015 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am exactly the same as you! My daughter also has Moon sq Pluto ánd she has Pluto in 4th house and Moon in 1st. We are extremely bonded but ... yes the danger is she is too attached to me. I want her to be independant though and respect her freedom. We as moms can only do so much. THis energy is what she chose, it's what she has to handle with. Meaning, it's in herself. We came together to work on that. Lovely! That's the way I am seeing it now. Hugs!!


Yes, I see that! Sometimes I feel like I could be conjoined at the hip with my daughter, doting on her with EVERY ounce of my energy... and it STILL wouldn't be enough! Our bond is really incredible.... Her happy place is in my arms! She nuzzles me like a cat, lol.

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posted November 19, 2015 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think having kids near is a very good thing. In other, more primitive and closer to mother earth cultures the kids are ALWAYS attached to the mother. There is even a theory that the kid should be touched only by the mom in the first few years. So no kindergarten etc. Makes for a very secure and balanced individual. I have not done that but I was always there when she cried and stayed with her until she was sleeping. And I have done so for a very long time. Just because I thought it would make her feel safe. Of course this could mean I totally did the 'wrong' thing but we all do what we think is best for our children. Well, most parents at least. I think some people in the west put their kids in their own beds too soon. After birth and letting them cry so they will get used to it not being picked up at the drop of a hat. Silly. Babies don't learn like that. In my view this can result in not being able to safely connect or feeling unsafe and not understood.
Still, I believe our children choose their own path to experience this. We can do the best we can but it's their energy, they have to deal with it. I have, for years, thought "oh, it's me, am I a bad mom, she has Pluto sq Moon' And we have Pluto conjunct Moon and Neptune conjunct Moon in synastry as well. Talk about connection!! How about your synastry?

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posted November 19, 2015 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by missblyss:
Yes, I see that! Sometimes I feel like I could be conjoined at the hip with my daughter, doting on her with EVERY ounce of my energy... and it STILL wouldn't be enough! Our bond is really incredible.... Her happy place is in my arms! She nuzzles me like a cat, lol.

Aaaaw!! Such treasure! I feel ya! My daughter is the best thing ever happened to me! Never knew I could love like this. My daughter is a little the same. A little demanding for my taste and it sometimes made me itchy (Aquarius Moon). But ... most of the time it's just very warm and fuzzy and well... lovely. We also have a lot of and I mean a lot of crazy nonsense fun!!

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posted November 19, 2015 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey but your daughter has Uranus Moon! How does that feel for ya?

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posted November 19, 2015 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sylven:
I think having kids near is a very good thing. In other, more primitive and closer to mother earth cultures the kids are ALWAYS attached to the mother. There is even a theory that the kid should be touched only by the mom in the first few years. So no kindergarten etc. Makes for a very secure and balanced individual. I have not done that but I was always there when she cried and stayed with her until she was sleeping. And I have done so for a very long time. Just because I thought it would make her feel safe. Of course this could mean I totally did the 'wrong' thing but we all do what we think is best for our children. Well, most parents at least. I think some people in the west put their kids in their own beds too soon. After birth and letting them cry so they will get used to it not being picked up at the drop of a hat. Silly. Babies don't learn like that. In my view this can result in not being able to safely connect or feeling unsafe and not understood.
Still, I believe our children choose their own path to experience this. We can do the best we can but it's their energy, they have to deal with it. I have, for years, thought "oh, it's me, am I a bad mom, she has Pluto sq Moon' And we have Pluto conjunct Moon and Neptune conjunct Moon in synastry as well. Talk about connection!! How about your synastry?

I have to say that I totally agree with this! I was SO protective of my daughter, everyone was scared to even touch her when she was just a newborn. I saw her as being so fresh to this realm and so vulnerable.. I didn't want any intrusive energies harming her.. I was super into baby wearing up until she was about a year and a half... always having her snug up in the safety of my auric body...

Upon some reflection, i am feeling that maybe the pluto square may be seen in this... Because of how overly protective I was of her, some people were a bit hesitant to develop relationships with her. (This was not at all what I wanted). My daughter was so attached to me that my other family members would have a hard time watching her, so for a LONG time I remained her ONLY true, close connection. That puts a LOT of pressure on me, because when you are the ONLY person in this realm that your child trusts, even just leaving them for 20 minutes with someone else can probably be very traumatic and painful for them. Of course, I never wanted her to be in pain, but sometimes life happens. Up until she was two years old, I probably left her with others for only a total of 2 hrs...

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posted November 19, 2015 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aaaaw!! Such treasure! I feel ya! My daughter is the best thing ever happened to me! Never knew I could love like this. My daughter is a little the same. A little demanding for my taste and it sometimes made me itchy (Aquarius Moon). But ... most of the time it's just very warm and fuzzy and well... lovely. We also have a lot of and I mean a lot of crazy nonsense fun!!

Oh love, I feel the same way. my daughter was my greatest teacher of self-love. When I felt her in my belly, I finally realized the truth that I could not love her unless I loved myself. She came to rescue me from my self-destructive tendencies.. Her love gave me the strength to leave a relationship that was not conducive to my growth.

I'll never forget, when she was just barely 3 months old... We were laying in bed tougher, falling asleep. All of a sudden we both open our eyes at the same moment and stare at each other... and we BOTH immediately burst out with an uncontrollable laughter..... It was HILARIOUS and unforgettable, for such a small child. We are such kindred spirits. I have had 2 separate psychics tell me that SHE was my mother in a past life!

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posted November 19, 2015 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sylven:
Hey but your daughter has Uranus Moon! How does that feel for ya?

Honestly, I love it! I have a lot of uranian energy too, so it is super fun for me! My daughter has a LOT of mars energy, which is a bit challenging for me because, to be honest, she is stronger than me. I am not good at standing in my power, so I'm sure she has come to help me with that, lol.

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posted November 19, 2015 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What signs are involved?

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posted November 19, 2015 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh love, I feel the same way. my daughter was my greatest teacher of self-love. When I felt her in my belly, I finally realized the truth that I could not love her unless I loved myself. She came to rescue me from my self-destructive tendencies.. Her love gave me the strength to leave a relationship that was not conducive to my growth.

I'll never forget, when she was just barely 3 months old... We were laying in bed tougher, falling asleep. All of a sudden we both open our eyes at the same moment and stare at each other... and we BOTH immediately burst out with an uncontrollable laughter..... It was HILARIOUS and unforgettable, for such a small child. We are such kindred spirits. I have had 2 separate psychics tell me that SHE was my mother in a past life!


OMG!!!! That is awesome and SO funny and special, the looking!!! Do you also feel yourself she was your mother? Funny you said this cuz many times I start talking about my daughter I say my sister. So I think she was my sister somewhere in time. Do you have IC contacts together?
I have a similar story to share when my daughter was also just a few months old. We were laying on the floor and slowly turned our heads to each other over and over again and then looking in each others eyes, bursting out in laughter and then look away again. It's just too cute when a very young baby knows this is funny.

Yeah I remember reading about your heart breaking story with your ex (or did I mix it up with someone else's?). Beautiful the way you two bond and how you feel saved by her. And so cool of yourself to see it that way!!
So yeah, our protectiveness have probably made them feel so attached to us. My daughter is almost 11 now and she still rather sleeps at home. I am thinking maybe I should have this or that but I have done it just the way I felt was right. I have never dragged her here and there. Always made sure she had routine and rest and her own bed. Now I am thinking it was a little too much maybe but ah ... well.
Beautiful you are carrying her with you all the time and yes, can feel tiring as well because all you feel you are is a mom when in fact you are also missblyss. Anyhow, the way you love your child is perfect! You're doing well! I could say so much more on this subject. Maybe later. Hugs!!!

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posted November 19, 2015 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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GULP, I am panicking guys,

My daughter is my world. I'm a single mother- it's just been me and her since she was 9 months old (and really even before that). I breastfeed, do attachment parenting- I've never slept away from her.. In fact, she sleeps in my arms every night!

Can someone shine light on a POSITIVE side of these aspects? Any potential things to watch out for? I know if I consciously work with these energies, I can maintain what we have..

Moon conjunction Uranus orb +1°33'
Moon square Pluto orb +0°30'
Moon trine Mars orb +5°12'
Moon opposite Mercury orb -7°55'
Moon square Jupiter orb +7°31


Don't worry. I have moon square pluto and I'm very close to my mom. My father abandoned me as a child and my mother raised me. Those stories about moon square pluto having a horrible relationship with their mother are not always true. Aspects can play out in different ways.

As long as you are loving and gradually allow her more independence as she ages, then she will be fine. I promise. Love is the most important part of raising a child. It sounds like you are a great mom already!

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posted November 19, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Pluto-Moon square natally is likely to indicate that she will be very powerful and potentially controlling emotionally; she needs a sense of power and control over all situations to feel secure. There must be depth and intensity and meaning and she will always be seeking it out or experiencing it, it's a crucial element of her being and her needs in this life to experience that. To her, this need or state of being is normal, it is home. And yes, that refers back to you, her mother, her earliest environment on this earthly plane. An intense early life is shown here and it's clear from what you've written that you are indeed very intensely devoted to her, sometimes to the exclusion of everybody else. Very Plutonian. Possessive, controlling, jealously guarding (in the interest of protection and safety). So this will translate to her life; there must be elements of possession, control, great depth of feeling for her to feel secure because your narrative and your behaviour indicated that this is the case. Many young babies are absolutely fine with other people as they grow, but this doesn't mean they aren't traumatized by non-attachment parenting. I've found attachment parenting to be a tough thing to do in a balanced way. They don't really tell you this part in the beginning but there will come a time when breast milk and cuddling aren't the only thing they need anymore! Attachment parenting advice is geared towards babies and I found that as my daughter grew into a toddler the idyllic way I treated her began to change of necessity. It wasn't practical anymore... anyway, please don't think I'm judging you because i was basically the same way with my kid and I totally understand! Just tellin it like it is. It isn't good or bad. We're all learning...

My daughter has Sun square Pluto in tight orb and Jupiter conjunct Sun by 6 degrees, opposing Saturn, so there's a T-Square between Sun-Jupiter, Pluto, and Saturn. Her father is absent and has never been involved. I think this partly indicates his absence but also speaks to my own controlling nature. In the absence of a father perhaps I fill in some of that energy.

My Pluto squares her Moon and her Pluto is tightly conjunct my Moon. Her Moon is on my IC.

Her Moon is well aspected natally apart from a semi-square to Mars... i guess I'm trying to say that it's not only aspects to the moon which speak to early environment and it's not only relationship with mother which the moon speaks of.

It's important to remember these souls incarnated the way they did the time they did for a reason and to give them that autonomy and freedom you speak of.

Very hard for me to remember and apply in practise as you can imagine with my Pluto/Mercury square my daughters Moon :/

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posted November 19, 2015 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think too that aspects to the moon in a natal chart do not necessarily speak directly to the relationship with the mother, how it will manifest, how you'll get along (that would be shown by the moon but also very much by house--the 10th in her case very likely--and synastry). The aspects to the moon in the natal chart are not about the relationship with the mother itself so much as the effects the relationship with the mother--along with many other factors, most directly of course the placement of the moon at the time of our birth, but everything about that early environment--have had on the way that we operate emotionally and feel secure in the world. This is our core... as close to home as it gets... the moon is a HUGE force in astrology and in each of our individual lives. So is our mother. But the moon can speak of ancestral mother stuff, so much stuff going so deep... so don't take it all on... and know that these aspects MAY speak to the influence you'll have had on your daughter but need not be read negatively at all or thoroughly in that way. Since you are a single mother you might have a lot to do with the Sun in her chart too. I'm not sure about this one. Would want to see the charts... so much to know.

There's a few professional astrologers I know--people who really know their stuff-- who never do readings for themselves or their families. There's a really good reason for that.

I freak myself right out looking at my daughter's chart sometimes. We can't look at these things in a balanced enough way and it gets in the way of acting naturally and listening to our instincts to know too much or attach certain meanings to the charts of those we through-the-roof care about. It's just so intense. I'm not recommending foregoing astrology when it comes to personal relationships; just expressing one perspective.

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posted November 19, 2015 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also I don't know if we can really control our behaviour to compensate for astrological factors. I know that's not a popular viewpoint but I'm beginning to think we just work with what we've got. You can be conscious of how much you are controlling with your daughter--but to try to control how controlling you are? Heheh... see what I mean? Good luck though! Truly wishing you the best. My nugget of wisdom here (and it's a very personal subject for me too so I hope you'll forgive my weighing in so heavily), is that we need to forgive ourselves as thoroughly and as often as we remember to, and just let life flow through us. As a mega Plutonian (I don't know how Plutonian you are), the desire for control is very strong in me. My antidote to that is just to let it be. Forgive myself. Let myself try to control some stuff. Paradoxically i can then relax into it. I dunno. That's convoluted. Try it! Heh.

I keep going on about Pluto here but her Moon is conjunct Uranus and that would lighten things up in a big way--I think Uranus serves to literally enlighten situations so she'll probably be very aware and have a good deal of agency, intuition and awareness within this whole aspect picture. Curious about houses and signs but most of all how Uranian YOU are?

I have Moon conjunct Neptune loosely square Saturn... my mom is increasingly and was at the time of my birth and young young youth, a very spiritual person. Curious whether you're Uranian by nature for this reason, just because lunar conjunctions are particularly telling.

I wonder if Aubyanne is reading, or anybody else, if they'd like to weigh in about their moon aspects and their mother's nature. I know Auby has a Moon-URA conjunction.

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Moon square pluto is the only thing you need to worry about. Make sure that you don't smother her, that is very important. She could become unreasonable if you treat her like a queen/princess. But still don't be unfair with her. No matter what you do, she will have some intense periods in her life, and she has to experience these intense feelings over time. It takes time to overcome a square, if you ever will. You can't deny that a square will lead some difficult times with it, and your daughter has to work hard on this aspect.

Jealousy, possessiveness and vengeance could become a theme for her, or others will project these feelings on her. So thats just how it is, and no need to be too afraid of those times

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Oh my gosh. This is exactly me and my daughter. Single mom. Very afflicted moon...moon square Venus, Pluto, and Jupiter and conjunct Uranus.

I am interested in the responses here...

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posted November 20, 2015 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moon square pluto is the only thing you need to worry about. Make sure that you don't smother her, that is very important. She could become unreasonable if you treat her like a queen/princess. But still don't be unfair with her. No matter what you do, she will have some intense periods in her life, and she has to experience these intense feelings over time. It takes time to overcome a square, if you ever will. You can't deny that a square will lead some difficult times with it, and your daughter has to work hard on this aspect.

Jealousy, possessiveness and vengeance could become a theme for her, or others will project these feelings on her. So thats just how it is, and no need to be too afraid of those times


Uh oh, I definitely call her 'queen' and 'princess' all the time. She also mostly only wears Elsa and Anna dresses, lol. She is a queen to me! Her name is Devi, which means goddess.

She definitely has a possessiveness over me! I think she has grown so accustomed to being showered with my constant attention that it is VERY hard for her to share it. I worry about the day I attempt to have a boyfriend. I had a guy over the other night and literally anytime he would even TOUCH me she would immediately start screaming. Part of me wondered if her dad somehow programmed her with this quality- lol.

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posted November 20, 2015 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think the Pluto-Moon square natally is likely to indicate that she will be very powerful and potentially controlling emotionally; she needs a sense of power and control over all situations to feel secure. There must be depth and intensity and meaning and she will always be seeking it out or experiencing it, it's a crucial element of her being and her needs in this life to experience that. To her, this need or state of being is normal, it is home. And yes, that refers back to you, her mother, her earliest environment on this earthly plane. An intense early life is shown here and it's clear from what you've written that you are indeed very intensely devoted to her, sometimes to the exclusion of everybody else. Very Plutonian. Possessive, controlling, jealously guarding (in the interest of protection and safety). So this will translate to her life; there must be elements of possession, control, great depth of feeling for her to feel secure because your narrative and your behaviour indicated that this is the case. Many young babies are absolutely fine with other people as they grow, but this doesn't mean they aren't traumatized by non-attachment parenting. I've found attachment parenting to be a tough thing to do in a balanced way. They don't really tell you this part in the beginning but there will come a time when breast milk and cuddling aren't the only thing they need anymore! Attachment parenting advice is geared towards babies and I found that as my daughter grew into a toddler the idyllic way I treated her began to change of necessity. It wasn't practical anymore... anyway, please don't think I'm judging you because i was basically the same way with my kid and I totally understand! Just tellin it like it is. It isn't good or bad. We're all learning...

My daughter has Sun square Pluto in tight orb and Jupiter conjunct Sun by 6 degrees, opposing Saturn, so there's a T-Square between Sun-Jupiter, Pluto, and Saturn. Her father is absent and has never been involved. I think this partly indicates his absence but also speaks to my own controlling nature. In the absence of a father perhaps I fill in some of that energy.

My Pluto squares her Moon and her Pluto is tightly conjunct my Moon. Her Moon is on my IC.

Her Moon is well aspected natally apart from a semi-square to Mars... i guess I'm trying to say that it's not only aspects to the moon which speak to early environment and it's not only relationship with mother which the moon speaks of.

It's important to remember these souls incarnated the way they did the time they did for a reason and to give them that autonomy and freedom you speak of.

Very hard for me to remember and apply in practise as you can imagine with my Pluto/Mercury square my daughters Moon :/



WOW thank you infinitely for all that great insight! What a gift to have all of this great perspective .

I am going to make a conscious effort to assist her in cultivating some close relationships with other people besides me... I'm also going to try to assist her in developing some independence.

Totally agree with you as far as the attachment parenting goes. It works great till about 9 months and then it's like, now what? They need to develop some sort of a phase 2 to it because it is totally not sustainable over the long term, and it is SO difficult to go from such and extreme, all-encompasing closeness... to anything else. Even now, at 2, I don't really know how to go from where we are now- which is pretty much being together 24/7... to something where her and I each have a bit of time apart from eacother.

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posted November 22, 2015 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sylven:
OMG!!!! That is awesome and SO funny and special, the looking!!! Do you also feel yourself she was your mother? Funny you said this cuz many times I start talking about my daughter I say my sister. So I think she was my sister somewhere in time. Do you have IC contacts together?
I have a similar story to share when my daughter was also just a few months old. We were laying on the floor and slowly turned our heads to each other over and over again and then looking in each others eyes, bursting out in laughter and then look away again. It's just too cute when a very young baby knows this is funny.

Yeah I remember reading about your heart breaking story with your ex (or did I mix it up with someone else's?). Beautiful the way you two bond and how you feel saved by her. And so cool of yourself to see it that way!!
So yeah, our protectiveness have probably made them feel so attached to us. My daughter is almost 11 now and she still rather sleeps at home. I am thinking maybe I should have this or that but I have done it just the way I felt was right. I have never dragged her here and there. Always made sure she had routine and rest and her own bed. Now I am thinking it was a little too much maybe but ah ... well.
Beautiful you are carrying her with you all the time and yes, can feel tiring as well because all you feel you are is a mom when in fact you are also missblyss. Anyhow, the way you love your child is perfect! You're doing well! I could say so much more on this subject. Maybe later. Hugs!!!


OMG, I love that sweet story!!! I do, 100%, feel like my daughter was my mother in a past life! Just the intensity of the connection and bond... Plus, when she was first in my belly, I experienced self-love for the first time in my life! It felt like how a mother would love me... I think she was infusing ME with a deep maternal love for myself. It was a beautiful and special experience.

And yes, that was my heartbreaking story with my ex. I am so grateful for my daughter to have come and given me a clearer perspective on him.. I imagine her up in the astral realms watching me with him, shaking her head... Saying OK it's time I step in and change this **** up! LOL.

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