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Seimei
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posted November 19, 2015 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ceridwen
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posted November 20, 2015 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you using the true or natural apogee/ perigee of the Moon?


however I have Pluto on 09°05 Libra.

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Seimei
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posted November 20, 2015 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Are you using the true or natural apogee/ perigee of the Moon?


however I have Pluto on 09°05 Libra.


at astro.com
the selection of Lilith in the box and I see it shows 9li48 01,,,
not using h22,h21,h13,.

I use my Janus ,,,sometimes there is a slight diff,,

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posted November 20, 2015 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sick and tired of Libra/Aries action on my Pluto!!!! Godda##!€%!!

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posted November 20, 2015 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So mean Lilith?

Nah, then count me out.

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Seimei
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posted November 20, 2015 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
So mean Lilith?

Nah, then count me out.


yes it is true,
Thank you for pointing out my error,
the correct one would be closer to 5li

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Seimei
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posted November 20, 2015 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ceridwen
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posted November 20, 2015 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes the natural Lilith will be at 5 Libra, however due to the calculation of the natural one, it is seldom opposite the natural perigee (having something to do with the calculation of the Moon`s course, something about the motion being elliptical, I did not quite understand it).
Here in this case the mean Perigee is at 1 Taurus.

In the case of the true Apogee, we always find the true Perigee on the opposing end. The true Apogee-Perigee axis will be at 7 SCorpio-Taurus.

However it seems that the true Apogee is not THAT true always either; at least German astrologers seem to favour the natural Apogee-perigee, even though it means they willn ot be on an axis of oppositions.


I am always torn as to what to pick.
So last month I did a little research about Priapus/perigee and supermoons.

A Supermoon is a fullmoon or New Moon, which has the closest distance of the Moon to earth (the perigee), which also of course puts the Priapus/Perigee in opposition with Sun, and hence conjunct the Earth-Moon-complex.

So I looked it up, which Priapus would make the closer conjunctions/oppositions to Earth-Moon and Sun, the true or natural one.
I DID expect the true one to win out, but I was wrong.
In each case I checked the natural/ interpolated one was making the closer aspect.
*sighs* And I SO adore true (or osc.) Lilith. But at least in terms of apogee and perigee, the natural/ interpolated one is closest to the astronomical truth I fear.

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Seimei
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posted November 20, 2015 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand your thoughts on that.
After your earlier comment I went to > http://www.astropro.com/features/tables/cen21ce/mo-ap-2015.html
then went to astro selected all choices for
'IT' and viewed for the next moon at each of the two charts so I could then be frustrated
that my program won't do the correct one automatically.
I will ultimately using his tables create a whole years worth in advance the hard way,
which is what I call a PITA.
pain in the a$$

But I like to view such charts around the world just to see what I can learn via observation,,,,,, as well as where they fall in my own chart(s) series,
I quess I should edit to ERROR in op

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Seimei
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posted November 20, 2015 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
ERROR

WHEN THE MOON IS THERE, there is an exact op

link did not work,


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Seimei
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posted November 23, 2015 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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