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Ami Anne
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posted November 20, 2015 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The quincunx is a 150 degree aspect. You can find it by going to the opposite sign and then moving over 30 degrees to either side. For example. Aries is opposed to Libra. So, Aries would be quincunx Scorpio and Virgo as these signs are next to Libra.I love the quincunx. It is one of my favorite aspects in the natal chart.I like it in synastry, too.

The quincunx is like an unwrapped present. The two sides of it do not blend such as a peach and a tangerine do not blend. However, they can be out together to make a nectarine(I think the fruit is lol)

The quincunx takes two very different things and gives you the opportunity to blend them. It takes a lot of work, attention and patience to do so. However, at the end you are rewarded with a new creation you could have never have foreseen im

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posted November 20, 2015 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Quincunx and it’s Aspects to The Ascendent


In my last article on Aspects to the Ascendent, I forgot the quincunx. That is surprising because it is one of my favorite aspects. The quincunx is 150 degrees. Simply put, it is an opposition plus one sign. For example Aries is opposed to Libra but quincunx to Virgo and Scorpio. The quincunx is strange because it is not an easy aspects such as the trine or sextile. The easy aspects show our gifts. It is not a hard aspect like the square or opposition. The hard aspects show our struggles. It is a hybrid.

The quincunx is akin to the horse and the donkey birthing the mule. The mule is his own creature. The quincunx is it’s own entity, as well. The main phrase to remember with quincunx is the “struggle to “blend”.

The ASC is one’s face to the world. A planet that is quincunx to the ASC will PROPEL the native to incorporate that planet into his daily life. If one got a great new pair of sunglasses but the sunglasses did not look good with one’s hair style. One could change one’s hair style and look fab in the sunglasses. That is the nature of the quincunx. One must blend, blend, blend until one gets a fabulous new whole. Let me give some examples.

The Sun is one’s ego. The ASC is one’s outer face to the world. With the quincunx, these two parts do not go together but they can be blended. Once, that is done, the person has a rare and unique personal expression.

If the Sun is quincunx the ASC, the native may not know quite what to do with his ego. He may hold back, at times. He may be too bold, at other times. He may try out different forms of himself before he finds the one that fits.

Lets say that a man has an Aries ASC and a Scorpio Sun. The Aries ASC is bold. It is a go getter. It will not take no for an answer.It will fight if you step on his toe. It will fight if you step on the toe of his friend.

The Scorpio Sun is quite different. It is smoldering. It pulls back and watches before it acts. It scopes out the scene like Al Pacino in the Godfather. Also, with the quincunx, one leg is masculine and one leg is feminine. In this case, the Aries ASC is masculine and the Scorpio Sun is feminine. The workings of masculine and feminine planets are quite different, too. This can be compared to the Yin and the Yang in Oriental philosophy.All in all, we have one fruit on one end and another very different fruit on the other end.

Staying with our example of the Aries ASC and the Scorpio Sun, the native will have a strange kind of pull between being direct and “in your face” and holding back and keeping his cards close to his vest. He will have to blend Al Pacino with Roseanne Barr. Do you like that analogy? I think it shows that there is quite a battle within the quincunx native. Al Pacino and Roseanne Barr combined would be kind of cute.

The Moon is one’s heart. With the Moon quincunx the ASC, one would struggle to show one’s heart to the world. I will give an example. Our native will have a Cancer Moon. Her ASC will be Saggi. Saggi loves adventure. Saggi will open her mouth and insert her foot. She is the friendliest ASC and she is the one most prone to follow her adventure compass without thought to the consequences. The Cancer Moon, on the other hand, is a deep feeler and a homebody. She loves to cook. She likes to build a nest in her home for her close circle of family and friends. She is a protective mother hen against the big bad world. She is known to chase off the outsiders, beak pecking. The Cancer Moon can be cliquish with those she loves. She is not one to travel the world and make friends with diverse people around the globe. Her perfect night is a cup of tea and a wonderful snuggle on the sofa. Hence, you can see how the quincunx propels the native to combine disparate parts.

Lets look at Mercury quincunx the ASC. Our native will have a Gemini Mercury and a Scorpio ASC. The Scorpio ASC is not effusive. He is not particularly friendly. He warms up slowly, after assessing the surroundings. He does not trust easily. The Gemini Mercury is very social and very chatty. The Gemini Mercury will be your best friend within five minutes. Hence, you can see how this native will have to move to the middle with these very different signs. Mercury quincunx the ASC, as an aspect, irrespective of sign, would be a struggle to communicate. The signs just exacerbate this. I hope this is clear.

Let’s Look at Venus quincunx the ASC. This native will struggle to show love. She may hold back. She may bound forward too much. She has to learn the balance. I will give an example. If the native has a Gemini Venus and a Capricorn ASC, she will be a natural flirt with a serious exterior. These two parts do not really go together. Hence, we see the struggle of the quincunx, once again.

Let’s look at Mars. Mars is the planet of goals and passions. If one has a strong Mars, one will go after what one wants in a direct way. If one has a weak Mars, one will hem and haw and maybe veer off the side of the road for an excursion. Mats quincunx the ASC is a person who cannot go after her goals in an easy way. She struggles to bring them to manifestation. She struggles to make them a reality. With signs, again, we have quincunx signs. Hence, if the native has a Pisces Mars and a Leo ASC, one would struggle between a dreamy Mars who gets lost in fantasy and an ASC who wants to take center stage. We may have a person who looks good on your arm but cannot set a goal worth a darn.(This is exaggerated for purposes of discussion)

This article is getting so long and I wonder if it is clear. I am kind of feeling as if I am walking through mud, so I will leave it and put it out there and wait for your opinions. If you want me to go on with the other planets, I will.

PS I will edit it some more tomorrow, so please be kind about the typos etc

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posted November 20, 2015 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great analysis Ami! Well done!

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My AC-Morpheus-Dulcinea-Hebe-Discovery quincunx Skuld sextile Hyperborea.

Hubby's AC conjuncts my Hyperborea exact and his Nessus conjuncts my Skuld exact, kind of neat actually.

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posted November 21, 2015 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus quincunx ASC exact

Any thoughts?

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posted November 21, 2015 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The quincunx is a 150 degree aspect. You can find it by going to the opposite sign and then moving over 30 degrees to either side. For example. Aries is opposed to Libra. So, Aries would be quincunx Scorpio and Virgo as these signs are next to Libra.I love the quincunx. It is one of my favorite aspects in the natal chart.I like it in synastry, too.

The quincunx is like an unwrapped present. The two sides of it do not blend such as a peach and a tangerine do not blend. However, they can be out together to make a nectarine(I think the fruit is lol)

The quincunx takes two very different things and gives you the opportunity to blend them. It takes a lot of work, attention and patience to do so. However, at the end you are rewarded with a new creation you could have never have foreseen im


Saturn inconjuct ascendant!

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posted November 21, 2015 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Great analysis Ami! Well done!


Thank you, H. You are such a Sweetie!

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posted November 21, 2015 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Venus quincunx ASC exact

Any thoughts?


Not easy to show your love to people.

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posted November 21, 2015 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn is discipline and maturity, so these may be hard to incorporate in your daily walk through life like setting and reaching goals etc

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posted November 21, 2015 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Not easy to show your love to people.


Thats interesting. I show love in different ways?

Can this affect me artistically as well?

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posted November 21, 2015 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, NYC

You can overcome the quincunx and prevail in a new and amazing way

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posted November 21, 2015 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, NYC

You can overcome the quincunx and prevail in a new and amazing way


But how? In an artistic sense. Im trying to understand it better

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posted November 21, 2015 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK NYC

I will give an example of venus quincunx the ASC

Let's say we have a Gemini ASC and she wants to write poetry.

Venus quincunx may make her feel uncomfortable with her poetry.

She may feel as if she can't quite express what she wants.

She may have to really change herself at an essential level, in order to do her poetry

She may have to risk rejection. She may have to risk humiliation, just for an example of the STRUGGLE in the quincunx

However, if she sticks with it, she will be a different person, HERSELF.

This change in her will free up her poetry.

Hope that makes it a bit more practical, NYC

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posted November 21, 2015 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice Anyalsis Ami Anne! however, Why do you like the Quincunx in synastry if i may ask?

i honestly see the quincunx as a hard aspect imo i have jupiter quincunx my moon and its not fun i really hate it, it really honestly feels like a hard aspect but possibly because i have a mix of other hard aspects to my moon and jupiter which makes the quincunx feel more intense then it should really be.
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posted November 21, 2015 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK NYC

I will give an example of venus quincunx the ASC

Let's say we have a Gemini ASC and she wants to write poetry.

Venus quincunx may make her feel uncomfortable with her poetry.

She may feel as if she can't quite express what she wants.

She may have to really change herself at an essential level, in order to do her poetry

She may have to risk rejection. She may have to risk humiliation, just for an example of the STRUGGLE in the quincunx

However, if she sticks with it, she will be a different person, HERSELF.

This change in her will free up her poetry.

Hope that makes it a bit more practical, NYC


Ok. I understand thanks

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posted November 21, 2015 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Nice Anyalsis Ami Anne! however, Why do you like the Quincunx in synastry if i may ask?

i honestly see the quincunx as a hard aspect imo i have jupiter quincunx my moon and its not fun i really hate it, it really honestly feels like a hard aspect but possibly because i have a mix of other hard aspects to my moon and jupiter which makes the quincunx feel more intense then it should really be.



Did I say I liked the quincunx in synastry. I may revise that. Synastry is the relationship chart. Did you know that/ xx

I like the quincunx, in theory, I guess I could say.

It feels as if it would be good BUT I don't think I have any, so cannot say from that perspective.

It is a theoretical perspective, so not as much of a gut level knowing, as if I had it myself, A.

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posted November 21, 2015 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Nice Anyalsis Ami Anne! however, Why do you like the Quincunx in synastry if i may ask?

i honestly see the quincunx as a hard aspect imo i have jupiter quincunx my moon and its not fun i really hate it, it really honestly feels like a hard aspect but possibly because i have a mix of other hard aspects to my moon and jupiter which makes the quincunx feel more intense then it should really be.



I didn't say thank you for your sweet comments.

Moon quincunx Jupiter should not be that hard. Maybe, you are thinking of something else here or an asteroid.

Moon/Jupiter may be really going all out with your emotions one day and then pulling back the next.

You could be someone's best, best friend, one day and hide away from anyone for weeks.

It is emotions that are hard to balance.

You can go to excess and then pull back and do little.

The quincunx will force balance, if that makes sense.

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posted November 21, 2015 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Did I say I liked the quincunx in synastry. I may revise that. Synastry is the relationship chart. Did you know that/ xx

I like the quincunx, in theory, I guess I could say.

It feels as if it would be good BUT I don't think I have any, so cannot say from that perspective.

It is a theoretical perspective, so not as much of a gut level knowing, as if I had it myself, A.



thank you ami anne for you response and yes i do know its the relationship chart which i just wondered why you had liked the quincunx in synastry but i understand where your coming from ami anne thank you!

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posted November 21, 2015 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I didn't say thank you for your sweet comments.

Moon quincunx Jupiter should not be that hard. Maybe, you are thinking of something else here or an asteroid.

Moon/Jupiter may be really going all out with your emotions one day and then pulling back the next.

You could be someone's best, best friend, one day and hide away from anyone for weeks.

It is emotions that are hard to balance.

You can go to excess and then pull back and do little.

The quincunx will force balance, if that makes sense.


yes i do feel that way so very much so!

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posted November 21, 2015 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even more wonderful is hard aspect to midpoint thereof

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posted November 21, 2015 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Angel

It is a long story of why I USED to like the quincunx in synastry, but I changed my mind lol

I suppose I am not really sure would be a better way to say it.

The quincunx is kind of a strange aspect, in that it is neither fish nor fowl.

It is not "good"( trines etc). It is not "bad"(squares etc)

It is unique in it's traits, so I am really not sure what I think lol

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posted November 21, 2015 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lion-I     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about North Node inconjunct ASC.

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posted November 21, 2015 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What about North Node inconjunct ASC.


Your daily walk through life and your life purpose may seem as if it is hard to reconcile but you CAN, if you stick with it.

Look for House of the NN and that is a great part of your purpose.

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@Angel

It is a long story of why I USED to like the quincunx in synastry, but I changed my mind lol

I suppose I am not really sure would be a better way to say it.

The quincunx is kind of a strange aspect, in that it is neither fish nor fowl.

It is not "good"( trines etc). It is not "bad"(squares etc)

It is unique in it's traits, so I am really not sure what I think lol


Thanks Ami your the Best!

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Hi, Ami.

I have Sun quincunx my Ascendant. Because my Sun and Ascendant have the same ruler, they blended beautifully, but that was not the case until I matured. I definitely integrate my Taurean Ascendant into my personality with my Libran Sun. I like to think of myself as an earthy butterfly, flying from person to person, being all charming when I feel comfortable in my environment.

Now I also have Ascendant quincunx my Saturn. My face is very serious before I am in familiar territory where I can let that hardness slide off. I am more prone to smile because of other pleasant energies in my life right now, which have enable people to actually approach me for the first time ever! Saturn is like a preservative. It preserves and presents the gift of that person's true nature later in life.

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