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Topic: Transit Saturn on ASC
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 29974 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 21, 2015 07:23 AM
Might be more of a rant than an actual question.But Tr Saturn is at 6°28 Sagittarius at the moment, and my nASC is at 7°01 Sagittarius. And I am not sure if I shall be relieved that Saturn will FINALLY leave my 12th house or concerned that it will cross the horizon and be in my 1st house for a long time to come. Feels like it might be between a rock and a hard place. 
Anyone has some horror (or nice) tales to tell about Tr Saturn through 1st house?
I must add to it that my 1st house is FULL as I have a bunch of Sag-planets including Mars in 12th house
Mars 5 Sag
ASC 7 Sag Neptune 9 Sag NN 10 Sag Mercury 25 Sag Sun 25 Sag IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 1659 From: Here and There Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 21, 2015 08:03 AM
From what Ive read, tSaturn conj ASC and moving through the 1st house can be very harsh on your sense of self..very eye opening to the reality of YOU..tSaturn is leaving my 1st house in the next 5 degrees. It hit my ASC in October 2013. Starting around that time, I began a two-year journey of moving all over the country, trying to find my place. This was totally unintentional but looking back I see I was searching for a new start. My self confidence was pretty low at the beginning of the transit. I felt the ugliest I have in years. Ive been the heaviest/most unhealthy I have in years. Ive dealt with lots of anxiety, depression, addiction, moving a LOT, ending a serious relationship... But I now feel more grounded. I feel like I know myself better. Saturn is a great teacher, right? The lessons youre about to face might be hard to cope with at the time. Im guessing this wont be a 'fun' time for you. The next two years or so are going to tear you down and build you up again...I say use this knowledge to your advantage!! I heard the first part of the transit is the hardest. But remember we must learn and grow from everything that comes our way. Good luck IP: Logged |
wheresthemoon Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Texas Registered: Aug 2014
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posted November 21, 2015 09:41 AM
This is actually a transit that I was looking at recently. I experienced it before I knew the first thing about astrology so it's interesting to look at the effects from an unbiased point of view. Right around the time Saturn crossed my ASC, I got my first boyfriend, who I was very much "in love" with and very "serious" about (I was thirteen lol). But probably the biggest thing that happened when it was almost exact was that I finally had the courage to ask my mom about a memory I had of something awful that happened in my childhood. She confirmed that the memory was real, and it shattered me for a long while. I was forced to deal with adult issues and feelings like I had never experienced before and I didn't have the maturity to handle them. I remember just waking up and feeling so "heavy." Like I had to go through another day of dealing with these memories and feelings that I could never unremember. I felt older and sadder. It was rough when it was near exact. I also began severely hating my appearance, and while Saturn was in my first house and Pluto entered my sixth, I developed an eating disorder. Basically normal teenage stuff made a million times worse by Saturn. Things did get better though after a year or so though. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess unregistered
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posted November 21, 2015 10:08 AM
When Saturn crossed my ASC, it was the best time of my life. I had an awakening that was very powerful and met a very important Capricorn ASC man who is one of the best people I have ever known. So for me Saturn conjunct ASC was a blessing I had worked for all my life.I suppose Saturn being exalted in Libra and trining my Venus in Gemini had some influence as to why it was so positive. How do you feel about Saturn being on your ASC? You have a lot of planets there. I feel like you have rare gifts and maybe Saturn is going to make them surface now.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 29974 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 21, 2015 10:36 AM
Thank you, all of this is very interesting. well the last years were not that easy either, putting hard hard work, and interestingly enough I have come out of an eating disorder (though as we all know it probably never leaves totally). I started changing my eating pattern starting at 21st november 2012 as a matter of fact. lol Though it was the year later that Saturn entered my 12th house (from january 2014). All in all I lost about 55-60 kilos in those 2 years and in fact are more conscious about my appearance than I ever was before (not just look-wise, but the way I present myself); adding to that was the application for some sort of promotion (becoming a lifetime civil servant as a teacher, which was denied to me 10 years ago as I was too overweight, which of course made me feel very degraded, on top of everything else).
Anyway I applied to this, and last year at tha time I did the medical examination, and even though I was not yet at the ideal/ good line in terms of my weigh, the doctor was very positive and gave me the "Green light" so to speak, because of the work I had already put into this, and because I was healthy otherwise and I guess because i am teaching a subject that not many other people teach. The application meant however, too, having to undergo supervisions of my headmaster, watching me teaching lessons to pupils and general behaviour in school, and write two reports on that to agree to the promotion going through. So I would be under much scrutinity from the authorities so to speak. Something I wholeheartedly hate and try to avoid. But I wasn`t having a choice (unless retracting my application) this time.
Yesterday was the final supervision, and well yes, it went fine, like the other 2 did, too. Apart from that there was alot of turmoil in the beginning of the year, well until june/ july, with me having to organize several things at school (theatre play and a classtrip), and both of these things were a nightmare, making me feel I was under so much pressure and also felt like I was being left all on my own. Well for the classtrip I had a colleague at my side, but she pretty much broke down on a regular basis, getting all emotional and personally hurt about some pupil and parental behaviour and unable to deal with what we had to deal with.
So it was all then resting on me, sorting out the aftermath of the nightmare trip, the sanctions we had to do, because some pupils behaved really badly, the mess with the travel insurance afterwards. Nothing I like to deal with. But had to. And though it was very exhausting, I somehow managed to get it all sorted. Well the organization burocreaucy stuff is not going to go away anytime soon I suppose, as I have to know deal with the change of my personal health insurance, and the agent is, well let`s put it this way, coming across as rather less competent.
On the personal level, well it was a good year and it was a bad year. It`s not really easy to categorize it. But to my surprise all of the experience led me to a modified behaviour of myself, more turned towards other people in fact, more socializing I suppose. And I`ve noticed that it seems like I have been a little pushed into a certain direction, as those coincidences all started to happen, and coincidentally leading to a strenghtened presence of a certain individual (just another performer, so it`s nothing personal), but it just struck me as almost weird, how he seems to have been "there" at several points for the last 2 years, and may I add, I did not even notice! - and now that the year is ending, the year is going to start with that "creative envnironment" (for a lack of better terms) again, it just, that those tickets were sort of "raining" down on me. I did not even want them in the first place, but they were gifts of people, and it is just poor coincidence that that one is the common denominator. LOL It doesn`t really mean anything big, but what I`ve learned over the last 2 years is to not struggle against the flow too much. There is no point in doing so. Either I simply go with the flow, or I will be washed over by a tidal wave forcefully tearing me away from where I am now and washing me up the shore where the stream is leading. So resistance is futile (and just a painful process, so I can stop doing that, resisting I mean). I actually am not that low in confidence, I do think maybe a little more realistic, which actually means an increase in confidence. lol As my insecurity before was making me almost paranoid. I donīt think I am like that anymore, though relapses are possible of course. But I also know my own limitations, how far I can go with certain things, and when there`s the need to stop and doing something else, no matter how much it sucks emotionally in the first step; fixed Moons are not great on the going with the flow thing I suppose, not even Aqua-Moons. I guess the hard work will continue.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 29974 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 21, 2015 10:40 AM
AGthank you for the positivity. and your example gives me hope it won`t be everything going to crap. lol I definitely think I`ve been working on improving myself and I keep on doing that. It will not be an easy period I fear, not with Tr Pluto opposing my nSaturn as well (though I think I remember Orange mentioned she got married under that transit, so it is not all bleak and pain and loss I suppose). But hey Iīve also somehow dealt with Tr Uranus constantly squaring my n Saturn on 16°56 Cancer (and it is once again back to be doing so, and will actually be inscribed into my Solar Return for next year, so I can`t avoid it).
It`s been worth it though.
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Piscean Tigress Knowflake Posts: 221 From: Everywhere and Nowhere Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 21, 2015 10:52 AM
I just have the first hit of this transit in my Asc (2°2" Sag). This conjunction affects other aspects in my natal chart (orb 2°) Conjunt Neptune (0° Sag) Opposite Moon (3° Gemini) Trine Venus (3° Aries) Until now, I just fell that my humour has low a little, but nothing to worry about. Some people say that the first hit of a transit can be the worst, but for me at this time, seems not to apply. One thing is for sure: I want realities in my life, no more illusions.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 29974 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 21, 2015 11:05 AM
thanks PIscean Tigress, I totally get you about the reality-thing. BTW in my tertiary chart there will tp ASC conjunct tp SAturn as well. in february next year. [/URL]
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athenegoddess unregistered
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posted November 21, 2015 11:25 AM
It sounds like you are a really good teacher and have the potential to be. Sagittarius governs teachers. Since Saturn brings karma, good or bad, it seems like you reap the good karma and become more solid in your occupation, and most importantly feel in your heart a sort of validation. This is a really important time also since your NN is there as well, meaning an important time in your destiny.Uranus square Saturn in Cancer seems like he is challenging some of your views about family? Perhaps that you feel a need to be independent from them now? IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 3858 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 21, 2015 01:05 PM
Ceridwen, I was just looking through my ephemeris and pondering the last few years this morning in bed.. I've a fairly full first house also; it starts at 2 Scorpio and my Sun is at 21. Mercury and Pluto at 10 and 13.I had a very difficult time while Saturn was in both my 12th and 1st houses. My daughter was born when Saturn was conjunct my 12h Venus at 17 Libra. I had a very lonely and difficult pregnancy, was homeless most of that time, and traveling across the country to be with her father who was not interested in being a father, though he tried to be. When Saturn was at 25 Libra my father died. Pluto was also conjunct my Moon though, and as an aside it's worth mentioning that there was a Sun/Moon conjunction that day exactly on my descendant... Anyway, by the time Saturn had entered my first house I had finally found a home where I would remain for only a few months but still it was relatively stable compared to what I had been doing. Uranus was square my Moon this entire time, so that had a good deal of bearing on all of this. As Saturn continued through my first house it was very much a time of re-building my identity which had been thoroughly shattered/fragmented/re-arranged during Saturn's transit of my 12th. It was a difficult time and very stressful, much fear for my health and safety which kept me moving around constantly. When Saturn was in the middle of my 1st things started to level out as i found the residence I'm still residing in now... it's a good place and my personal foundation really began to flourish here. Saturn was conjunct my Sun a few months later when I met a partner well would turn out to be a very karmic person in my life. It was frankly pretty hellish being with him as Saturn traveled back and forth over my Sun.. I've been reflecting on how transiting Saturn really does bring old karma up... looking back all of the pain I went through was for good reason. It was just really hard to suffer like that. Saturn isn't easy anywhere but if you've been doing your best it should be ok.. you know? IP: Logged |
PaulMcFly unregistered
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posted November 21, 2015 01:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by frankie2912: From what Ive read, tSaturn conj ASC and moving through the 1st house can be very harsh on your sense of self..very eye opening to the reality of YOU..tSaturn is leaving my 1st house in the next 5 degrees. It hit my ASC in October 2013. Starting around that time, I began a two-year journey of moving all over the country, trying to find my place. This was totally unintentional but looking back I see I was searching for a new start. My self confidence was pretty low at the beginning of the transit. I felt the ugliest I have in years. Ive been the heaviest/most unhealthy I have in years. Ive dealt with lots of anxiety, depression, addiction, moving a LOT, ending a serious relationship... But I now feel more grounded. I feel like I know myself better. Saturn is a great teacher, right? The lessons youre about to face might be hard to cope with at the time. Im guessing this wont be a 'fun' time for you. The next two years or so are going to tear you down and build you up again...I say use this knowledge to your advantage!! I heard the first part of the transit is the hardest. But remember we must learn and grow from everything that comes our way. Good luck
This is all so so right. Transit Saturn will be leaving my 1H soon after many years of introspection and loneliness. But once it ends get ready to come out a VERY wise man. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6571 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 21, 2015 03:02 PM
It's Saturn through H2 that you should fear. Run, you fools. IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 1245 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 21, 2015 04:48 PM
Hi Ceri, if there is no Jupiter transit also hitting your chart, you should lose some more weight. That, and the hard work continues, but judging from your replies, you're doing just fine  IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 3567 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 22, 2015 04:05 AM
When Saturn crossed my ASC: Lost a lot of weight. Got a job ( finally after 4 years of being unemployed) Met a new love. Now Im going through my Saturn Return. No idea how it will go. Its been only a month since then. IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1738 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 22, 2015 04:21 AM
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 29974 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 22, 2015 07:02 AM
Thank you all for your input. Well of course I also have my "blind spots" that I might have not been dealing with sufficiently and I am sure this will come to "bite me in the a**". But I also have put a lot of work in improving myself in many regards. And I can honestly say that physical transformation as well as the career-one, which seems to bear fruits now, it was not given to me for free, I had to work really really hard to get it (of course as consdquence of misguided actions/ behaviour in the decades prior to this, I mean noone FORCED all that food down my throat, right? ). But at least I eventually took responsibility and I think the rather positive result job-wise and money-wise is sort of the fruit of that work.
I`ve also been trying to improve myself in terms of connecting to other people, really trying to change my social skills (I am pretty good in the social skills in an official environment, but had to work on those in a half-official environment, the "small-talk" level for lack of better term).
I know that i still have quite some way to go in that regard, exercising and learning and growing and eventually achieving the maturity in a social and yes maybe even romantic context that I totally lack, which is bad in terms of my age and the fact that I AM pretty mature in other regards. It`s like being a teenager (in terms of experience) in the body of a middle aged woman. (speaking strictly for romantic relationships; I am better in friendships. ) But I also learned to accept that this is what it is, for whatever choice I made years ago, or the choices I avoided to make actually. No more crying about spilled milk, but getting a towel and clean up the mess I brought upon me myself. There is really noone I can push the fault upon, I am responsible for my life, noone else is! So I am the one who can change it, not overnight, but step by step. Which is actually the insight that started the whole transformationprocess 3 years ago (starting with the physical sector of course - Tr Pluto on pr ASC tends to do that ) ). So yes, still a lot work to be done. But I guess that is even something my Venus in Capricorn is used to (and she rules 3 houses in my chart, 5th, 6th and 10th).
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athenegoddess unregistered
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posted November 22, 2015 11:24 AM
That's the beauty of Saturn. His rewards are something that was worked for a long time and not just given and it gives a strong sense of satisfaction.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 29974 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 22, 2015 12:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: it gives a strong sense of satisfaction.
Yes, it does. It gives me the feeling I deserve it. IP: Logged | |