Author
|
Topic: Sagittarius - Why do you do this?
|
Steph22922 Knowflake Posts: 91 From: United States, Kansas Registered: Jan 2015
|
posted November 22, 2015 12:39 PM
Hello Lindaland! I have a question for anyone who's Sagittarius Sun or Moon or anyone who's close to someone with Sagittarius. Why does it seem like you guys never want to talk over texting, emailing, ect? I have a sister who's Sag Sun, a good friend who's also Sag Sun, and a friend who's Sag moon, and anytime I try to start a conversation with them on facebook or texting they never want to talk that much, or they will one day but then I won't hear from them for a week or more. Or I'll send them a link or something and I'll see that they read it but they don't add any comments or opinions. However when I spend time with them in person they are very interesting and caring people and have lots to say. It's just over texting it seems like. Has anyone else noticed this? Other signs don't do the same thing as far as I've noticed, I've only noticed this with Saggy people. They're also kind of flaky with making plans in advance. If I say I want to hang out with them and ask when they'd be free they never answer back, but if I want to do something spontaneous they're usually down for it. Or if they want to do something with me it's usually out of nowhere with no previous mention. Do Sag people just not like talking online or making plans?IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor Knowflake Posts: 2406 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011
|
posted November 22, 2015 01:03 PM
Sag is Mutable Fire. Like sparks. Have you ever tried to contain a spark? Or have you ever seen less than one spark at a time come from a fire? sparks are infectious and grow where ever the environment is receptive. You can't constrict a spark, or a Sag in any area of life. What's wrong with fiery mutable conversation in person anyway? Computer text is so final and restricting. Sag was meant to relate in person. 3 cheers for Sag lovers who get it that life is free and spontaneous and fun and changeable and hot, not dry and computer screen dead. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 8524 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
|
posted November 22, 2015 01:23 PM
I think you nailed it right there I am one who doesn't like texting over the phone.I prefer person-person interaction. I think this is maybe because Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter( planet of expansion) and texting kinda shrinks a person to letters and punctuation When I am having a conversation with someone. The most engaging are the types where I use my body to dramatize something or show them examples(in real time) of what I mean. Conversations on the phone tend to limit that unfortunately. Also, in as far as making plans? I don't do that.I feel like I should keep my options open in the event that something interesting takes my fancy. None of the people I hang out with like making plans either. We just do. Sag Sun-Jupiter-Neptune- conjunct. Uranus in Sag conjunct South node in Sag. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa unregistered
|
posted November 22, 2015 01:38 PM
So, along the lines of what 23 mentioned about Jupiter expanding... taking it down to a realistic POV, texting is very detail oriented and much more Gemini territory. Sags don't have the patience for it. I made a thread some months ago about how Sags connect, because they're not the type of people who "build". It's like they either like you and trust you or they don't (or you prove them not to). They won't be the type to keep in contact everyday but if you're dear to them you'll know and feel it. This coincides with keeping in touch via technology because they cant emote very well. You have to see it in person and it's so much more genuine that way. IP: Logged |
Steph22922 Knowflake Posts: 91 From: United States, Kansas Registered: Jan 2015
|
posted November 22, 2015 01:41 PM
Thanks for the insights! I understand what you mean about person to person interaction being more meaningful. I guess I just don't understand where saggy's are coming from though BC as an Aquarius I feel that the internet and phones provide an expanded way of talking to people. You don't have to be with someone to actually ask how they're doing or make future plans or whatever. It's frustrating to me BC when people keep avoid making plans with me it makes me feel like they just don't like me or want to hang out so I give up. And my friend with a sag moon moved an hour away so messaging over the internet is the only way we have to talk or make plans but half the time she doesn't answer me. I don't understand why a preference for face to face interaction requires rudeness to people trying to reach out to you in other ways. It may not be intended to be rude but it is. IP: Logged |
Selenite unregistered
|
posted November 22, 2015 01:41 PM
Yep, it's the whole mutable fire thing. I loathe texting and talking over the phone for more than 3 minutes. I haven't talked to most of my family or friends in months simply because I'm not around them physically. There's just nothing to be gained from that kind of conversation, at least not for me. Plus, then the next time you see each other, you have more to talk about and you can connect on a deeper level because of your body language, facial expression, etc. I definitely come across as apathetic over texting / email, when in reality, if I were to say the same thing in a face to face interaction, I would seem enthusiastic and it would further the bond I have with that person, instead of driving us apart because of misconstrued tone.Spontaneous plans (isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? ) are the best! I don't like plans in general, unless it has something to do with setting time aside for a project. Isn't there a saying, 'Humanity plans while (God) laughs?' Lolz IP: Logged |
hannaramaa unregistered
|
posted November 22, 2015 01:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Steph22922: Thanks for the insights! I understand what you mean about person to person interaction being more meaningful. I guess I just don't understand where saggy's are coming from though BC as an Aquarius I feel that the internet and phones provide an expanded way of talking to people. You don't have to be with someone to actually ask how they're doing or make future plans or whatever. It's frustrating to me BC when people keep avoid making plans with me it makes me feel like they just don't like me or want to hang out so I give up. And my friend with a sag moon moved an hour away so messaging over the internet is the only way we have to talk or make plans but half the time she doesn't answer me. I don't understand why a preference for face to face interaction requires rudeness to people trying to reach out to you in other ways. It may not be intended to be rude but it is.
I understand and yes I've noticed Sags are just kind of rude that way. That's them "not following social conventions or norms" as they say. It's so funny bc all these books describe Sags and Aquas as signs being able to keep their cool. They're so "calm and collected" etc...yet both of these are some of the most emotional signs I know. Sensitive af. I don't get how that doesn't translate into understanding other people's needs, but maybe someone can help us out.
IP: Logged |
Steph22922 Knowflake Posts: 91 From: United States, Kansas Registered: Jan 2015
|
posted November 22, 2015 01:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Selenite: Yep, it's the whole mutable fire thing. I loathe texting and talking over the phone for more than 3 minutes. I haven't talked to most of my family or friends in months simply because I'm not around them physically. There's just nothing to be gained from that kind of conversation, at least not for me. Plus, then the next time you see each other, you have more to talk about and you can connect on a deeper level because of your body language, facial expression, etc. I definitely come across as apathetic over texting / email, when in reality, if I were to say the same thing in a face to face interaction, I would seem enthusiastic and it would further the bond I have with that person, instead of driving us apart because of misconstrued tone.Spontaneous plans (isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? ) are the best! I don't like plans in general, unless it has something to do with setting time aside for a project. Isn't there a saying, 'Humanity plans while (God) laughs?' Lolz
That does make alot of sense with what you said about having more to talk about and being able to express things more in person. My sister never answers my texts and it annoys me BC it makes me feel like she doesn't want to talk to me. But anytime we're in person we can have in depth discussions. Do you ever think about how your family feels about you never calling/texting ect.? It may not have the same emotional depth but it makes others feel like you're making an effort to keep in touch and make them a part of your life. Otherwise if they don't hear from you for months it makes it seem like you don't care about them BC you've made no effort to talk to them. That's just my perspective on it as an Aquarius sun. I live for technology and I need to hear from people that I care about even if its only through texting or the phone. IP: Logged |
Selenite unregistered
|
posted November 22, 2015 02:03 PM
quote: Do you ever think about how your family feels about you never calling/texting ect.? It may not have the same emotional depth but it makes others feel like you're making an effort to keep in touch and make them a part of your life. Otherwise if they don't hear from you for months it makes it seem like you don't care about them BC you've made no effort to talk to them.
I've considered that it could be 'rude'.. but changing myself to please other people who wouldn't change themselves for me (not that I would even want them to).. is not something I aim to do. I think I dislike texting more than my lack of communication hurts others, if you want some perspective. Lol.. Or maybe the people I know just don't care that much. A lot of them do the same thing, even the Libras. Yes we really are sensitive. Things like 'people getting mad at me over texting' are enough to dampen my mood for a minute. IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 859 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
|
posted November 22, 2015 02:08 PM
I think it has more to do with the placement of MERCURY. Scorpio MERCURY is more reclusive, and not as much of a conversationalist in general. Sagittarius MERCURY has the classic foot-in-mouth syndrome, and likes to see and talk at the same time. Aquarius MERCURY may come off as flighty, or unable to hold down a conversation in a linear fashion, but is the most likely to use technological means of communicating.I have Scorpio MERCURY. I say what I mean, in as precise a way as I can. But I've got it conjunct URANUS and MC. I'm actually much more likely to converse via text or Internet than in person. That's in part because my Scorpio MERCURY likes to ruminate over what to say before committing to actual words. Texting or typing gives me that time to "compose" my thoughts. IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 1365 From: Registered: Feb 2015
|
posted November 22, 2015 06:08 PM
Hahaha! My ex boyfriend was a Sag and he would much rather prefer talking on the phone rather than texting. Even if there wasn't much to say. So funny that this is a Sag thing, because it is so totally him!IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9709 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
|
posted November 22, 2015 07:01 PM
xIP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9709 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
|
posted November 22, 2015 07:04 PM
xIP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
|
posted November 22, 2015 07:29 PM
My post poofed. quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: So, along the lines of what 23 mentioned about Jupiter expanding... taking it down to a realistic POV, texting is very detail oriented and much more Gemini territory. Sags don't have the patience for it.
Sag Venus here, never sent a text or had a FB. Both feel too constrained...boxed in. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14027 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
|
posted November 22, 2015 09:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Selenite: Yep, it's the whole mutable fire thing. I loathe texting and talking over the phone for more than 3 minutes. I haven't talked to most of my family or friends in months simply because I'm not around them physically. There's just nothing to be gained from that kind of conversation, at least not for me. Plus, then the next time you see each other, you have more to talk about and you can connect on a deeper level because of your body language, facial expression, etc. I definitely come across as apathetic over texting / email, when in reality, if I were to say the same thing in a face to face interaction, I would seem enthusiastic and it would further the bond I have with that person, instead of driving us apart because of misconstrued tone.Spontaneous plans (isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? ) are the best! I don't like plans in general, unless it has something to do with setting time aside for a project. Isn't there a saying, 'Humanity plans while (God) laughs?' Lolz
Humanity plans while God laughs, lol, never heard that saying but I like. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9709 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
|
posted November 22, 2015 09:56 PM
Here's how to get a Sag into social media:
IP: Logged |
Steph22922 Knowflake Posts: 91 From: United States, Kansas Registered: Jan 2015
|
posted November 23, 2015 10:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Sag moon (and stellium) here. I'm fine with email, but to me text should be only quick notes, updates to keep people from worrying or brief notes ("stuck in traffic" or "don't forget milk"). Generally speaking, for anything personal I prefer face to face (or failing that, the phone where we can at least hear each other), as it just doesn't feel real (a person could easily text a passionate "you're the only one for me" to more than one person while actually engaging in sex with someone else and I don't doubt that has happened, it's so easy to fake emotions). When I had IM there were complete strangers that tried to hook up with me every time I got OL so I couldn't get anything done, and they'd throw tantrums or get all hurt if I wasn't chatting back (these days, I wonder how many of them are like that over iphones, and not realizing how they have that affect on people in public while they text at others for ignoring them? ) I typically found them too slow to be interesting, but too fast for me to do anything else while I'm at it, which is very frustrating. Some just want affection, which strikes me as something to get in real life where you can know it's real rather than from someone over the net (ok, I suppose virtual sex with strangers is safer than actual sex with even people you know ). The conversations tend to be superficial as well (which can be fine face to face, but I don't understand why people bother with that OL) and people can get upset if I don't respond fast enough, or even not online enough. I finally got rid of it and have loathed getting involved in anything similar as I observe that it's more of the same. It can even be worse for people one knows. One boyfriend of a BFF really ticked me off because he played dangerous games with that. He KNEW my BFF was on the highway (as he made her download an app so he could track her by her phone) and demanded instant responses, the evil ******* . And it was to ask really stupid questions, the obvious point being that it was about control of her, he had to prove he had control over her even if he put her life, and the life of others on the highway, at risk. Seeing plenty of others text when it's dangerous, and how demanding people can be, that also alienates me from the idea, and reinforces how controlling and smothering it can be.
Thanks for the detailed reply PixieJane! You make alot of really good points I never considered. I guess the online world can be crazy most of the time. I grew up using the internet and forums so i guess I'm used to misunderstandings and having to re-type and re-explain what i mean to people who don't get it. I see how that could exhaust someone and make online interaction not worth it to some though. Whenever I text people I don't demand an immediate reply. I know that people are busy with their own things going on and I respect that. I try to have manners when texting, emailing ect. just as if I was talking to someone in person. As far as I'm concerned, if I wouldn't say something to someone's face I won't say it online. Texting is sometimes the only way to get ahold of someone I know, say if they're in a different town and I want to ask them something. It's just nice to get a reply at some point from a Sag, which sometimes doesn't happen. I know some people can be crazy with wanting immediate responses. I can't believe your friend's boyfriend tracks her 24/7 and demands a response even when she's driving! That's insane! If anyone said they wanted to track where I was nonstop to be in a relationship with them, I'd tell them where the door was! The Aquarius in me doesn't play with my freedom being taken away! And I think that part of the reason I enjoy texting, facebook, ect. is that as an aquarius I like to have alot of alone time but keeping in contact with people is still important to me so texting someone is a way to keep in contact without being in person so much. I guess that's kind of the opposite of Saggy's since they prefer to be around people and prefer less texting. IP: Logged |
madelineleo23 Knowflake Posts: 292 From: Registered: Jun 2015
|
posted November 23, 2015 08:02 PM
My grandma, and sister are sag suns. My grandma doesn't have a cell phone, she refuses. She only has a landline. She says that she would rather have a conversation in person or at the very least hear the other persons voice (hence her landline) lol. My grandma is pretty young too, so it has nothing to do with her age. If you talk to her in person she is very willing to engage in conversation and for a long time. My sister only calls. All the times I've texted her she doesn't respond, her way of responding is calling when she sees my text. I have sag ascendant and I'm not very great at reciprocating when someone comments on my Instagram or Facebook. Guess this is how sag's are wired.
IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1173 From: Registered: Jan 2015
|
posted November 24, 2015 02:29 AM
My boyfriend has sag moon, he is the texting person one than me, I have sag asc and mars. He is the one who often use social media to talk to other people than me.When I talk to him that I value face-to-face interaction more than texting, he laughs at me, he also prefers discussing problems over text. Prob he is more in touch with his gem sun than moon.. IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 1174 From: Registered: Jun 2014
|
posted November 24, 2015 03:01 AM
Hmm..I kind of have noticed this too. And, I am definitely somewhat like this. But, recently, I've been trying to get better about it. I kind of wonder...? Sometimes texting and messages and stuff seem kind of unreliable.. And, I feel like this may make Sagittarius kind of withdraw, because, they would rather know that they can really sit down and talk to someone.. To know they can talk with the person, comfortably, without having to worry about waiting as long for a reply. I mean.. I think part of it is just because of a certain amount of detachment Sagittarius might have.. But.. I feel like in conversation, Sagittarius may be one of those signs that wants to really sit down and ponder things, and really put their thoughts out there. Maybe some feel that texts kind of cut them off from doing that because it isn't as immediate as having the person right in front of them.. It doesn't come off as quite as expansive as an in-person conversation would be. As I said.. It may also just be because Sagittarius just has a certain kind of detachment.. But, that is something I am having a harder time putting into words right now..
IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 1174 From: Registered: Jun 2014
|
posted November 24, 2015 03:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by hearttreasure: My boyfriend has sag moon, he is the texting person one than me, I have sag asc and mars. He is the one who often use social media to talk to other people than me.When I talk to him that I value face-to-face interaction more than texting, he laughs at me, he also prefers discussing problems over text. Prob he is more in touch with his gem sun than moon..
Definitely! I have Gemini in Mercury, and I have an easier time putting my thoughts into words when it comes to messages. I have a harder time expressing my thoughts verbally. IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 1174 From: Registered: Jun 2014
|
posted November 24, 2015 03:11 AM
This makes me wonder.. Maybe this is coming from having Mercury in Capricorn or Scorpio? Where are these people's Mercury? That's the next thing I would look at. Scorpio can definitely be a sign of few words.. And, can be a bit more introverted with their thoughts.. Capricorn can definitely be refined, so, it may keep its words for when it feels they are absolutely needed.. And well.. There is more that goes into those signs than that, when it comes to Mercury placements.. But.. What about Mercury? One of my friends who is a Sagittarius, who doesn't answer her messages all the time or right away has Mercury in Scorpio. What I said earlier about Sagittarius (if it actually has any relevance) would of course be taken into account, because, it seems it generally is specifically Sagittarius I notice this with. Also, the house of Mercury may be important too.. I have Mercury in the 9th. Once again, going back to what I said about refraining from talking until the circumstances seem to allow the conversation to be more in-depth and expressive.. Allowing the person to feel they have a chance to really express all their thoughts, rather than being interrupted a bunch.
IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 7034 From: Registered: May 2012
|
posted November 24, 2015 05:54 AM
^ I was just going to mention Mercury! Your OP sounds like a Mercury mis-match in synastry. I do believe Capricorn and Scorpio Mercuries can be on the quiet side, more so than Sagittarius Mercury. However, if you had good Mercury2Mercury, and/or Sun2Mercury - synastry... they would probably still be chatty to you. I have Pisces Mercury and I can usually talk for hours and hours with other water Mercuries. IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 1662 From: Here and There Registered: Apr 2011
|
posted November 24, 2015 07:15 AM
Sagittarius Moon, Mercury, Saturn, Uranus stellium here..and Jupiter making all sorts of aspects all over my chart.I do like talking via text or online but I admit Im not the best at responding in a timely manner..sometimes not at all. I think cuz my mind is always in 50 different places at once. It is hard for me to focus. Sometimes I just cant think of exactly what I wanna say, so I put it off and then accidently forget And yes I flake on plans a lot but Im usually down for doing something spur of the moment. The thing is, dont give me too much time to think about it or Ill overthink and fizzle out lol IP: Logged |
Steph22922 Knowflake Posts: 91 From: United States, Kansas Registered: Jan 2015
|
posted November 24, 2015 11:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: ^ I was just going to mention Mercury! Your OP sounds like a Mercury mis-match in synastry. I do believe Capricorn and Scorpio Mercuries can be on the quiet side, more so than Sagittarius Mercury. However, if you had good Mercury2Mercury, and/or Sun2Mercury - synastry... they would probably still be chatty to you. I have Pisces Mercury and I can usually talk for hours and hours with other water Mercuries.
I didn't think about looking at mercuries! I checked and my sister has a capricorn mercury, one friend has cancer mercury and the other friend has scorpio mercury. That might have something to do with it as well. I personally have pisces mercury too and I can definitely go on and on forever lol. There's sometimes where my friends with water mercuries will have a conversation over text with me for at least an hour or so but then i won't hear from them for days. My sister on the other hand doesn't respond to texts often but when we're in person we do talk for hours. It's very interesting to look at all this. I never considered how synastry between mercuries affects communication. IP: Logged | |