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missblyss
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posted November 22, 2015 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrologically speaking, what natal chart charactaristics or transits could spark such a thing?

This is something that I experiences for a few months when I was 19 years old... I was kicked out of my house and was left to sleep around in all sorts of sketchy circumstances with sketchy people, mostly older men. They would give me drugs, which I honestly gladly took, because it was hard to be in those environments sober...

One day, one of the men convinced me that it would be safer to shoot up. He told me that my body would actually tolerate it better because it would be a smaller amount, etc etc. I remember that it made sense to me at the time, and although I was nervous, I allowed it to happen.I never once did it to myself, but it continued for a few months and all different men, would do it for me. One actually forcefully injected me with a exceedingly large amount, where I really thought I was going to die.

One day, a few months in, I took some LSD. I immediately thought "WTF AM I DOING TO MY BODY?" and that was that. I never injected heroin or meth again.

I don't really talk about this, it is hard for people to hear. I just want to understand how this happened and why so that I make sure I never do it again. I am, generally speaking, pretty damn open-minded towards substances, meaning that I never really believed that they were "bad". Sometimes I can trick myself into hurting myself quite easily...

Was thinking maybe viewing this from an astrological perspective could help me gain some insight? Maybe know what transits to watch out for? Or see what subconscious qualities of mine may need addressing?

Thanks so much


If it is needed, my birthday is March 1, 1991 4:00 PM San Diego, CA

This time period was in the summer of 2010, around June-August

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PixieJane
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posted November 22, 2015 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Given how ubiquitous such drug use is (as it's illegal, you won't see the vast majority of it, of course, but think how many billions of drugs are confiscated each year but still the drugs keep flowing in...because even with the losses, it's still profitable, which means a heavy customer base), I wouldn't apply astrology to it.

That said, I'd look (in transits and natal chart) to Neptune first and moon second if you were using due to it being "hard to be in those environments sober." Neptune can make one very sensitive to one's environment and seek escape, while the moon can seek relief in such ways if it feels very insecure (which sounds to be the case with you then).

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Stawr
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posted November 22, 2015 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to say the first time I smoked pot, Neptune conjunct my Mars in Aquarius.

With Saturn in my 6th house now, I stopped spending money on ciggs, with the occasional loop holes of getting my nicotine fix w/o spending money on them.

I tried LSD in September. It was a pretty good time. I would do it again on a vacation or getaway, with the right people and circumstances. Not when I have any responsibilities or have to drive.

Looking at cafe and the transits of the date I first tried it.

Moon trine my Neptune
Moon sextile Pluto
Mercury square Neptune
Neptune conjunct Venus
Also I think I should add Uranus rx conjunct my sun.

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Stawr
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posted November 22, 2015 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad you were able to quit those drugs missblyss. I knew a girl who died relapsing with heroin.

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frankie2912
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posted November 23, 2015 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Missblyss, while reading your post I thought to ask if you have Pisces influence and then I see that you are a Pisces.

Im not a Pisces but it is my dominant sign..because of my two Pisces planets being so heavily aspected. Pisces 5th house. Neptune conj Sun, too.

I was also into drug use around the same age. I never shot up, but getting ****** up was the only thing I cared about.

Do you have any other Pisces influence? Heavily Neptunian?

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missblyss
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posted November 23, 2015 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I have a pisces sun which sextiles neptune and uranus.

Here are all my neptune aspects;
Uranus conjunction Neptune orb +3°15'
Neptune trine Midheaven orb -1°02'
Neptune sextile Pluto orb -4°12'
Sun sextile Neptune orb -5°14'
Venus square Neptune orb -6°45'
Mercury sextile Neptune orb -5°20'

I was wondering if maybe having an 8th house venus could signal getting "pleasure" from 8th house type things?

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3l3n
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posted November 23, 2015 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say the 8th house Venus can play a role in this.

Pisces with H8 Venus here. Have lived similar situations

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posted November 23, 2015 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad that you're not hurting yourself in that way anymore.

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PlutoSurvivor
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posted November 23, 2015 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Aries would be a love of Adventure and courage for trying new things, experimenting with drugs high on the list with your strong Pisces and Neptune, and with Uranus placement seeking a kind of spiritual bliss.

Your chart at that time frame shows Nessus transiting DSC. So that could be looking towards others for abuse.
RxChiron transit conjunct sacred degree urging you toward that spiritual bliss connection.
Several planets in transit crossing over house cusps trigger "last chance" type of experience to energies.

You came to selflessly serve others...our planet.. So once you find your place, how you fit into society and help others do so, you will be able to handle the urge to escape Through choices other than drugs. Your sensitivities connect you to others pains, emotions, and feelings, so you must be careful not to take on what is not yours but at the same time help others through their stressful times.

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posted November 23, 2015 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The two people I have known personally and watched fall to heroin addiction specifically are both Leo Suns, each with 2 other Leo placements as well as heavily aspected/afflicted ascendants. I have thought about making a thread with their charts...

Not to offend Leo's but the correlation I have found here is that addictions can be extremely selfish as they aren't thinking how they are affecting others and Leo/Ascendant both rule the self, the ego, the identity. I think people who suffer from hard addiction, a lot of them have identity issues/crises. Don't know who they are or why they are here to an extent that causes a crises in their personality/identity, which they choose to either escape or seek refuge from through drugs.

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missblyss
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posted November 23, 2015 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
Venus in Aries would be a love of Adventure and courage for trying new things, experimenting with drugs high on the list with your strong Pisces and Neptune, and with Uranus placement seeking a kind of spiritual bliss.

Your chart at that time frame shows Nessus transiting DSC. So that could be looking towards others for abuse.
RxChiron transit conjunct sacred degree urging you toward that spiritual bliss connection.
Several planets in transit crossing over house cusps trigger "last chance" type of experience to energies.

You came to selflessly serve others...our planet.. So once you find your place, how you fit into society and help others do so, you will be able to handle the urge to escape Through choices other than drugs. Your sensitivities connect you to others pains, emotions, and feelings, so you must be careful not to take on what is not yours but at the same time help others through their stressful times.


Yep, that sounds like me. So much neptunian and uranian energy. I've never hurt anyone in my life, but have found myself in situations where I'm surrounded by murderers. I have a habit of not being able to really see the negative sides of people, or I guess I do see them.. but I know it isn't really them. I remember being 19, in Tijuana. My boyfriend left me alone with this cartel member. I was high on meth doing yoga and reading his natal chart... The cartel member actually ended up crying at his reading, lol. I remember telling him, "Malo, you are not a bad person! You have done bad things, but it's because you feel so deeply and have an impulsivity" then he just starts BAWLING!

Anyways, even with all the hard drugs, I was STILL obsessed with yoga, meditation, etc... It was weird.. I guess I justified it by thinking I could explore the depths of my consciousness. Plus, I wanted to understand the experiences of the people I was hanging around...

I DO, so deeply, feel that it is my life purpose to serve. Hopefully, SOON I can figure out how to do this... So I can start feeling whole... And stifle the urge to escape

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missblyss
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posted November 24, 2015 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by deepseablues:
The two people I have known personally and watched fall to heroin addiction specifically are both Leo Suns, each with 2 other Leo placements as well as heavily aspected/afflicted ascendants. I have thought about making a thread with their charts...

Not to offend Leo's but the correlation I have found here is that addictions can be extremely selfish as they aren't thinking how they are affecting others and Leo/Ascendant both rule the self, the ego, the identity. I think people who suffer from hard addiction, a lot of them have identity issues/crises. Don't know who they are or why they are here to an extent that causes a crises in their personality/identity, which they choose to either escape or seek refuge from through drugs.



Hmm, maybe leo pride prevented them for asking what they needed/ asking for help? I think that definitely applied in my case. I was so hurt but couldn't put my pride aside to ask for the help that I needed.

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