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Readytochill
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posted November 23, 2015 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Readytochill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For all you mutable Suns and moons out there, are you ever considered pushovers? Don't kill me! maybe pushover isn't the right word. Flexible perhaps?

I was wondering because I was reading about mutables on here and it said they go with the flow and will conform for the greater good.

If you were being lied to and walked all over on, would you just go with the flow or stand up for yourself?

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PaulMcFly
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posted November 23, 2015 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaulMcFly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just go with tha flo babiii

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Readytochill
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posted November 23, 2015 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Readytochill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
Just go with tha flo babiii

That's something I admire about mutables! Give me some of your mutableness :P

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Orange
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posted November 23, 2015 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo Sun, Gemini Moon here

I go with MY flow. I always do what I feel doing.

Virgos tend to hold grudges, sooo..if someone walked over me ( attempted to) or lied to me or stabbed me in the back, there will be no reconciliation. Scratched off.

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DopGang
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posted November 23, 2015 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Virgo Sun, Gemini Moon here

I go with MY flow. I always do what I feel doing.

Virgos tend to hold grudges, sooo..if someone walked over me ( attempted to) or lied to me or stabbed me in the back, there will be no reconciliation. Scratched off.


Yep. I feel you there.

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Violets
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posted November 23, 2015 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Virgo Sun, Gemini Moon here

I go with MY flow. I always do what I feel doing.

Virgos tend to hold grudges, sooo..if someone walked over me ( attempted to) or lied to me or stabbed me in the back, there will be no reconciliation. Scratched off.


Ditto. Pisces Sun, Virgo Moon.

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Orange
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posted November 23, 2015 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DG,
What are your sun and moon?

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Piscean Tigress
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posted November 23, 2015 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscean Tigress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here Sun in Pisces, Moon in Gemini, Asc in Saggitarius and Midheaven in Virgo... Mutable energy everywhere!

I usually go with the flow, but my Mars conjunct Saturn in Taurus, and my opposition between Sun and Pluto gave me some kind of determination in some aspects...

So, I can be sometimes stubborn too; and maybe you can fool me once, but never ever will be a second chance, and you can regret it to try it again

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Lunar Pisces
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posted November 23, 2015 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunar Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm heavy mutable: Gem Sun, Merc and Venus, Pisces moon and Virgo ASC.

I'm not a pushover in the sense that people can do whatever to me and I won't stand up for myself. Do people try to walk all over me? Yeah, they do, and sometimes it's hard to get them to take my anger about that seriously. I especially have that problem with my family.

But with friends--well, many of my friends respect me because of what they'd call my "steely" character. I can be very tough, to the point of being scary.

Buuuuut, that said, yes there have been times when I was younger, especially as a kid where I didn't know how to stand up for myself and people did get away with treating me like dirt. I think it is hard for mutable-heavy people to learn how to stand up for themselves.

One way I handle it is cutting people out of my life if they treat me badly. Zero tolerance (Aqua mars in the 6th--I have rules for life, baby, and this is one of them). I am a very compassionate, generous person but people who take advantage of me will be nixed out of my life. FOR GOOD. It's not really about holding grudges like Orange was saying. I'm so very Gemini so I see grudges as a waste of energy. If you're s****y to me, I will tell you off. slam the door on you and forget about you. I need to move on. I've got other things to do that don't involve bullies and parasites.

It's really about self-care. Mutable people are prone to attract toxic people who will abuse you over and over unless you do something about it. And this is how I handle it. If you're not a decent enough person that you can't be respectful towards me from Day 1, then you need to go away and go learn how to be civil and human somewhere else. I'm not here to teach anyone those lessons. I have my own life to go live. preferably in the company of decent folks.

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Violets
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posted November 23, 2015 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I can identify with some of that as well.

When I was younger, I got pushed around a lot more. People still try with me, but as others have said, I don't have any tolerance for it now.

If it's a coworker, I have to keep my cool a bit, even if I want to punch the person in the face (which has actually been the case at my last place of employment, people were so sh**ty as coworkers).
However, that's basically like waiting for the impending explosion. It will either happen, or I'll leave before it does, and wash my hands of the situation.

*End rant*

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frankie2912
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posted November 24, 2015 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sag moon, merc, saturn, and uranus stellium in my 2nd house (but it's all with my early degree Cap sun and neptune, too)

I go with the flow with a lot of things, but if someone treats me unfairly or insults me or I see bad treatment of coworkers at work, etc..i WILL say something. I stand up for myself AND others. Some have called me a whistleblower. F*ck yeah i am. I'll be damned if anyone thinks they can pull the wool over my eyes.

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Soltze
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posted November 24, 2015 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll go with the flow on going out, adapting to changing circumstances, acommodating people but not in being offended/lied to/ walked on.

I also go with the flow of leaving people who don't treat me properfly. And like someone posted previously: oh boy do they try!

I'm a bit plutonian. I look fluffy or something but they don't know what hit them later hahaha

I have Gemini Mercury, Sun and Jupiter. Gemini/Sag - IC/MC axis. Pisces ASC

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VirgoAquaSag
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posted November 24, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoAquaSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People mistake kindness as a weakness these days. I am trying to be a decent human being with common sense and manners so that we can all live in Peace. PLEASE.

I give them a few chances to see what kind of person they truly are. Always love to see how "surprised" they look when they finally see me angry.

I was not letting you walk over me because I was weak. I gave you chances to make it right because I know people do make mistakes. I was being really considerate. If you prove yourself to be an ass, you deserved to be treated as so. And you will be sorry you made me angry.


Virgo Sun/Gem Jupiter/2 Planets in Sag + SAG ASC

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PixieJane
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posted November 24, 2015 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm roughly half cardinal and half mutable (the mutable side includes my Mars-Uranus, however, and this is all sextile to my cardinal stellium) with just a splash of fixed.

I'm described as flexible and multifaceted by those who know me well, but I'm not a leaf in the wind.

I'm generally easygoing and able to overlook many flaws (though I keep those in mind just to not be caught off guard). But when I'm being terribly used or treated on a regular basis or someone crosses a line, my preference is to "flow around them," which essentially means I cut them out of my life as much as I can, and preferably without them realizing it (as when they realize it they sometimes retaliate). That strikes me as expedient and easiest as I prefer not to add problems to my life (I can also cut people out of my life as we're incompatible while still wishing them well, but of course they'll still take it personally if they realize that's what I did). But if someone insists on being a problem or otherwise require a more direct approach, I'll certainly give them a fight.

There are notable (but very rare--at least since adulthood) exceptions. Like one guy who stole from me (and I found out he stole from everyone he could) did so while having me make him a grilled cheese sandwich as I believed him about his being hypoglycemic. That he liked to gripe about "people on welfare" (and that "welfare is theft") added to my being irked (and when I confronted him about it, I told him "get on welfare and steal honestly" ). Though that said, I was also trying to get my stuff back, but when I failed to I just shrugged it off and made a note to not be so trusting should a similar situation arise again (and I haven't been), and he was definitely frozen out of my life.

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Gracha
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posted November 24, 2015 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zero degree Aries sun with Gemini moon, I like going with the flow in relationships and I hate liars and being lied to it's a total turn off. If youre trying to run over me i'll tell you how I feel because I have no problem standing up for myself. Now sometimes ill test and let the person keep going to see how far they will take it...

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