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meowpower
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posted November 26, 2015 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meowpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to debate further about the topic of combustion. I have done this previously in my other posts, but I simply don't get why it is still in practice and I would like to see it done away with for the sake of science and proven facts.

Apparently in my chart I have Sun combust Saturn, Mercury, and Venus. Do I feel that all of the things these 3 planets represent are less noticeable in my life or anyone else's life and that my/our ego influences them? Not really.

Here is why:

1. Every planet has the ability or the correct atmosphere to prevent being "burned" by the sun, yet the theory behind combustion is that the planets conjunct the Sun are being burnt by the rays. Even the Earth has a magnetic field around it to prevent us from being burnt by our own Sun. In reality, the Sun is a huge enemy to the planet Earth, which most astrologers seem to shrug off. In fact, modern science believes that the Sun will eventually destroy the Earth.

2. The sun is the center of the solar system, not the Earth. So, the sun is projecting it's rays outwards from the center causing it to reflect light off of the moon and the other planets in our solar system. Taking this into consideration, if any planet were to be on the other side of the sun from the Earth, it's influence really wouldn't be felt from a metaphysical perspective.

3. Light is one of the most important influences in our lives and in metaphysics. If a planet were receiving more light, it should actually be more active and more powerful than if it were receiving less light.

4. This is kind of unrelated but Cazimi also isn't real and is the same as combustion but just more exact. If you believe that Cazimi differs from combustion, I wish you the best of luck.

I have a diagram of the solar system saved from the date and time that I was born 2/18/1994 at about 12:30 A.M.

Here's a screenshot.
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k589/meowpower94/Screen%20Shot%202015-11-26%20at%201.49.59%20AM_zpsyihua8et.png

I was born at night time, so the place I was born (North America) is actually facing away from the Sun. Do you see how almost all of the planets are actually on the other side of the Sun? This in turn would signify (using logical thought and a basic knowledge of metaphysics and light magic) that all of the planets except for Jupiter and perhaps Pluto and a few asteroids are ineffective in my chart. The sun is in a lot of ways outshining almost all of them. Does this mean that Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Mars, Uranus, and Neptune aren't able to energetically influence me past the energy of the Sun? Maybe. But once again, even the Earth has a magnetic field that blocks the Sun's rays and helps them bypass the Earth. So basically, my chart is literally uninfluenced from a scientific standpoint. The only planet there that would have any influence from a factually based standpoint would be Jupiter.

Please sound off below and let me know what you think about this.

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meowpower
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posted November 26, 2015 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meowpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an actual depiction of how the Earth's magnetic field works.
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k589/meowpower94/Screen%20Shot%202015-11-26%20at%203.26.18%20AM_zps93fx4wun.png

So yeah, basically the exact moment I was born the surface of the Earth where I was at was nearly uninfluenced by anything including the Sun itself. Of course there are the hours and days after birth that still count, but the snapshot of my birth indicates that there was little influence. I'm not sure how this relates to spatial influence and the "knowing" of the other planets being there, but it's an interesting concept and I'm sure that there are many people in this world who's chart would be interpreted differently if we used an up-to-date 3D model of our solar system when doing interpretations.

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meowpower
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posted November 26, 2015 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meowpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Faith
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posted November 26, 2015 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by meowpower:
I would like to debate further about the topic of combustion. I have done this previously in my other posts, but I simply don't get why it is still in practice and I would like to see it done away with for the sake of science and proven facts.

What are you talking about, pray tell? Where is the original debate?

Not everyone here subscribes to the same ideas about combustion.

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Seimei
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posted November 26, 2015 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by meowpower:
I would like to debate further about the topic of combustion. I have done this previously in my other posts, but I simply don't get why it is still in practice and I would like to see it done away with for the sake of science and proven facts.

Apparently in my chart I have Sun combust Saturn, Mercury, and Venus. Do I feel that all of the things these 3 planets represent are less noticeable in my life or anyone else's life and that my/our ego influences them? Not really.

Here is why:

1. Every planet has the ability or the correct atmosphere to prevent being "burned" by the sun, yet the theory behind combustion is that the planets conjunct the Sun are being burnt by the rays. Even the Earth has a magnetic field around it to prevent us from being burnt by our own Sun. In reality, the Sun is a huge enemy to the planet Earth, which most astrologers seem to shrug off. In fact, modern science believes that the Sun will eventually destroy the Earth.

2. The sun is the center of the solar system, not the Earth. So, the sun is projecting it's rays outwards from the center causing it to reflect light off of the moon and the other planets in our solar system. Taking this into consideration, if any planet were to be on the other side of the sun from the Earth, it's influence really wouldn't be felt from a metaphysical perspective.

3. Light is one of the most important influences in our lives and in metaphysics. If a planet were receiving more light, it should actually be more active and more powerful than if it were receiving less light.

4. This is kind of unrelated but Cazimi also isn't real and is the same as combustion but just more exact. If you believe that Cazimi differs from combustion, I wish you the best of luck.

I have a diagram of the solar system saved from the date and time that I was born 2/18/1994 at about 12:30 A.M.

Here's a screenshot.
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k589/meowpower94/Screen %20Shot%202015-11-26%20at%201.49.59%20AM_zpsyihua8et.png

I was born at night time, so the place I was born (North America) is actually facing away from the Sun. Do you see how almost all of the planets are actually on the other side of the Sun? This in turn would signify (using logical thought and a basic knowledge of metaphysics and light magic) that all of the planets except for Jupiter and perhaps Pluto and a few asteroids are ineffective in my chart. The sun is in a lot of ways outshining almost all of them. Does this mean that Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Mars, Uranus, and Neptune aren't able to energetically influence me past the energy of the Sun? Maybe. But once again, even the Earth has a magnetic field that blocks the Sun's rays and helps them bypass the Earth. So basically, my chart is literally uninfluenced from a scientific standpoint. The only planet there that would have any influence from a factually based standpoint would be Jupiter.

Please sound off below and let me know what you think about this.


Why would anyone want to debate with someone who has so clearly expressed their view and that they are unlikely to budge,

""""""4. This is kind of unrelated but Cazimi also isn't real and is the same as combustion but just more exact. If you believe that Cazimi differs from combustion, I wish you the best of luck.""""'
so you are wishing luck to anyone who thinks differently,, LMAO

3. Light is one of the most important influences in our lives and in metaphysics. If a planet were receiving more light, it should actually be more active and more powerful than if it were receiving less light.

True,, but SOUND came first.

2. The sun is the center of the solar system, not the Earth.
so look at your helio, and just because your side of the earth was dark , does not mean those planets were on the other side of the Sun.

1. (((Every planet has the ability or the correct atmosphere to prevent being "burned" by the sun,))) yet the theory behind combustion is that the planets conjunct the Sun are being burnt by the rays.

facts not in evidence. The history of man on the earth is such a small fraction of the age of the solar system so no person could state planets have or have not been burned by the sun.
NOT DEBATING YOU,,,,


DONE

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meowpower
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posted November 26, 2015 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meowpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
Why would anyone want to debate with someone who has so clearly expressed their view and that they are unlikely to budge,

""""""4. This is kind of unrelated but Cazimi also isn't real and is the same as combustion but just more exact. If you believe that Cazimi differs from combustion, I wish you the best of luck.""""'
so you are wishing luck to anyone who thinks differently,, LMAO

3. Light is one of the most important influences in our lives and in metaphysics. If a planet were receiving more light, it should actually be more active and more powerful than if it were receiving less light.

True,, but SOUND came first.

2. The sun is the center of the solar system, not the Earth.
so look at your helio, and just because your side of the earth was dark , does not mean those planets were on the other side of the Sun.

1. (((Every planet has the ability or the correct atmosphere to prevent being "burned" by the sun,))) yet the theory behind combustion is that the planets conjunct the Sun are being burnt by the rays.

facts not in evidence. The history of man on the earth is such a small fraction of the age of the solar system so no person could state planets have or have not been burned by the sun.
NOT DEBATING YOU,,,,


DONE


To be honest some people on this site are horribly closed minded. I know you believe that I'm not budging but you're the one getting all heated up because the theories you blindly accept are being negated. Thank you so much for your response.

P.S. Please calm down and take a look at my diagrams. The planets are CLEARLY on the other side of the Earth.

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meowpower
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posted November 26, 2015 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meowpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Sun, not Earth

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meowpower
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posted November 26, 2015 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meowpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
What are you talking about, pray tell? Where is the original debate?

Not everyone here subscribes to the same ideas about combustion.


To be honest I don't even feel like debating with you guys anymore anything I say offends someone. I sent a few messages to the "moderators" of the website asking them if they could please take my account down so I can go elsewhere with my ideas and concepts about astrology, numerology, esotericism, and metaphysics.

Some people just aren't ready to incorporate modern science into esoteric studies.

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Faith
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posted November 26, 2015 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never talked to you about it.

So you are being presumptuous and antagonistic.

Might want to watch that, in the future.

Happy trails.

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meowpower
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posted November 26, 2015 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meowpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I never talked to you about it.

So you are being presumptuous and antagonistic.

Might want to watch that, in the future.

Happy trails.


Thnx <3

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meowpower
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posted November 28, 2015 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meowpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I never talked to you about it.

So you are being presumptuous and antagonistic.

Might want to watch that, in the future.

Happy trails.


I apologize for my responses yesterday. If you're still interested in sharing, what are your thoughts on combustion and conjunctions to the sun?

I would genuinely like to hear it.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 28, 2015 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, first of all, the astrological conjunction is an optical illusion, their orbital movement coincides for a while, but they're aren't literally conjunct. Astrologically speaking, a conjunction becomes a mesh of energy, a conglomerate, the two planets act as one, always blending with each other. With a Sun stellium, the Sun takes an extra importance in that chart (ego, individuality, personality and so on), and the energy of the other planets are Sun-serving, so to speak, pouring and manifesting through the Sun.
I don't see it as the Sun burning the other energies, I see the other energies absorbed and manifested through the Sun. It's a form of condensation in a chart, a bit like having lots of eggs in one basket.

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meowpower
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posted November 29, 2015 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meowpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, first of all, the astrological conjunction is an optical illusion, their orbital movement coincides for a while, but they're aren't literally conjunct. Astrologically speaking, a conjunction becomes a mesh of energy, a conglomerate, the two planets act as one, always blending with each other. With a Sun stellium, the Sun takes an extra importance in that chart (ego, individuality, personality and so on), and the energy of the other planets are Sun-serving, so to speak, pouring and manifesting through the Sun.
I don't see it as the Sun burning the other energies, I see the other energies absorbed and manifested through the Sun. It's a form of condensation in a chart, a bit like having lots of eggs in one basket.


Okay, I like that interpretation. But a question; does that mean to say that it makes someone self absorbed? Or does it mean the person has a high sensitivity to what's represented by the planets in their chart?

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posted November 29, 2015 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, first of all, the astrological conjunction is an optical illusion, their orbital movement coincides for a while, but they're aren't literally conjunct. Astrologically speaking, a conjunction becomes a mesh of energy, a conglomerate, the two planets act as one, always blending with each other. With a Sun stellium, the Sun takes an extra importance in that chart (ego, individuality, personality and so on), and the energy of the other planets are Sun-serving, so to speak, pouring and manifesting through the Sun.
I don't see it as the Sun burning the other energies, I see the other energies absorbed and manifested through the Sun. It's a form of condensation in a chart, a bit like having lots of eggs in one basket.


that would be my understanding from my own experience... mars-venus conjunct sun

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Seimei
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posted November 29, 2015 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
because the theories you blindly accept are being negated

YOU are making an assumption, you have no idea what theories I do or do not accept.


P.S. Please calm down and take a look at my diagrams. The planets are CLEARLY on the other side of the Earth.[/B][/QUOTE]

I am trying to find some data for you, website moved.http://www.jupitersdance.com/
I emailed the author, don't know I will get a response or locate it elsewhere.
Just because the planets were so arranged at that moment as it shows does not remove them from a collective wave. THAT IS NOT A THEORY anymore. a model was theorized yes, but probes have measured. Jupiter does play an extremely important role,yes.

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Faith
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posted November 30, 2015 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meowpower:
I apologize for my responses yesterday. If you're still interested in sharing, what are your thoughts on combustion and conjunctions to the sun?

I would genuinely like to hear it.


Nothing special. You still haven't clarified what you are fighting against.

My guess is, it has something to do with Ami?

Ami teaches that sun-Mercury causes all kinds of serious issues; it's usually in her top ten worst aspects lists. Which is totally random and bewildering to me. She also says Mercury square Uranus is one of the worst. Yet many of us here with Mercury-Uranus insist we are fine. She disagrees

Sun conjunct Mercury can be a blessing. My best friend has this...she's never been insane, she is self-confident and knows what she is about.

Quoting astrologer Rick Levine in his monthly forecast for this month:

As Mercury approaches the sun, our words, thoughts, and communications become more aligned with who we are.

Isn't that a good thing?

Almost seems more apt to say that the further Mercury is from the sun in our chart, the more likely we are to have trouble!

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