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posted November 29, 2015 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 29, 2015 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's hard to say. The way my own marriage came together was a story of natals, progressions, and transits.

My progressed sun conjunct natal Aqua DSC conjunct transiting Uranus, with my husband's progressions matching, in many respects.

In my case it looks fated, especially considering the uncanny number of similarities between my husband's and father's charts, which I was totally unaware of at the time.

But even if I had studied real astrology back then (as opposed to sun sign astrology, which I was a firm believer in), I never would have thought ahead of time that it was even statistically possible to find someone whose progressions matched mine so perfectly, and whose chart was that interconnected with my father's....heck, I loved my dad but would not have deliberately sought out his astro twin!

I guess my point is, life just hands you the oddest situations....it's remarkable.

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posted November 29, 2015 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:

I guess my point is, life just hands you the oddest situations....it's remarkable.


Yep! Life is, strange.
My wife's chart is literally almost opposite of my mother's. (Taurus Venus - Scorpio Venus, etc)

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posted November 29, 2015 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I think it's hard to say. The way my own marriage came together was a story of natals, progressions, and transits.

My progressed sun conjunct natal Aqua DSC conjunct transiting Uranus, with my husband's progressions matching, in many respects.

In my case it looks fated, especially considering the uncanny number of similarities between my husband's and father's charts, which I was totally unaware of at the time.

But even if I had studied real astrology back then (as opposed to sun sign astrology, which I was a firm believer in), I never would have thought ahead of time that it was even statistically possible to find someone whose progressions matched mine so perfectly, and whose chart was that interconnected with my father's....heck, I loved my dad but would not have deliberately sought out his astro twin!

I guess my point is, life just hands you the oddest situations....it's remarkable.


Much more complicated than i thought hehe
But Im happy you shared that.Your story is so interesting and lovely.Thanks

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posted November 29, 2015 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ My pleasure

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Yep! Life is, strange.
My wife's chart is literally almost opposite of my mother's. (Taurus Venus - Scorpio Venus, etc)

Wow!

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Generally speaking I think our parents' charts and draconics will give clues about our partner choices.

And the nodal axis is really big.

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posted November 29, 2015 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and I believe in Juno.

The day I got married, my progressed Juno was conjunct my husband's progressed sun, exact to the minute.

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posted November 29, 2015 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our parents charts???Intriguing..im excited!!What should look on their charts??

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posted November 29, 2015 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh that is a huge topic and I am no expert.

Take me with a big grain of salt please.

First of all there is familiarity and trusting what you know. Three of my four brothers were first engaged to women whose suns were tightly or exactly conjunct my mother's sun, or opposite her sun.

Second, there are just patterns. Consider that any pattern that stands out between your parents and yourself might extend to your spouse. Ceridwen has talked about this before - how her parent's synastry is echoed in her chart and her preferences.

One simple example that comes to mind for me is, my parents had sun sextile sun synastry, and possibly moon sextile moon. I have sun sextile moon natally, and so does my husband. One could say, I'm just very attuned to sextiles. Our composite with sun sextile moon feels right.

Third, if you look at the peculiarities of your chart and compare that to your parents, some unique themes may stand out. I feel that whatever stands out there is likely to be a factor with your marriage choice.

Again, using myself as an example, I have sun in mutual reception with Saturn. That's just peculiar. Not everyone has this.

And it tips you off to the fact that I was in sync with my father, since Saturn represents the father. Now, that connection reverberates many ways in our charts. For one thing, when I was born, my father's progressed sun was conjunct my draconic Saturn. And his draconic sun was conjunct my Saturn. (Interestingly he died when his progressed sun was conjunct my Capricorn sun, and the transiting sun. It was sun-Saturn to the end.)

Anyway, so is it that weird that my husband's Saturn is conjunct my father's Saturn, with only 2 orb? And my husband's sun is conjunct my father's draconic sun? Things like this.

There was foreshadowing in my chart, I think, that I was sorta deeply enmeshed in sun-Saturn patterning, unlikely to break out and try something altogether different.

Fourth, I would look at your IC and what it says about your parents and your own preferences. There just might be hints there. Especially if the IC or its ruler ties in with your DSC and Venus.

In my case this works out with uncanny precision: my Libra IC is ruled by Venus. My Sag Venus is sextile my Aqua DSC and trine my husband's sun and Uranus.

My IC conjunct my father's sun and my composite sun with my husband.

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Please don't quote I'm not even sure if I'm making sense or not.

Just tossing around some ideas...it's an exploration where the patterns may point the way in advance, but you'll only really know in retrospect, after you find that special person.

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posted December 01, 2015 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Generally speaking I think our parents' charts and draconics will give clues about our partner choices.

And the nodal axis is really big.


I think this is an interesting point you made.

I find that there is a thread of consistency in my attraction for Moon in Cap.

I fear them because they oppose my Cancer Moon.So romantically, it is not ideal.

But my Dad has Cap Moon. My sister has Cap on the 7th house cusp. And my mother has Venus/Saturn in Cap.

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posted December 01, 2015 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yes, that makes sense to me. Thanks for chiming in.

Well my father was a Libra with a Leo moon, and my husband is a Leo with a Libra moon. My mother was a Leo, possibly with a Libra moon.

All in the family.

As I said above, I didn't know all this when I got married.

Also my husband's moon is conjunct his mother's Saturn...maybe that's a factor in his decision to marry a Capricorn (plus his Cap DSC.)

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posted December 01, 2015 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Faith i missed your response.

And Thanks for explaining to me.It makes a lot of sense!!!
I will check some charts

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posted December 01, 2015 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
The way my own marriage came together was a story of natals, progressions, and transits.


Yeah. Same here. At some point it got pretty overwhelming.

To answer the thread questions:

His Solar arc venus conj natal sun on the day we first talked.

My tr NN conjunct asc exact. Tr sun, merc in my 11th house square Tr uranus in the 2sc house. My natal merc conjunct tr merc and square tr uranus. So I grew wings on my feet, flew over to him and left everything behind.

As for natal aspects, I'm saturn dominant. he has a bit of saturn to get me (10th house saturn sextile cap asc and venus).

I have 12th house planets n strong neptune influence. So does he.

Etc.... The list goes on.

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posted December 01, 2015 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Empty Spaces,

If you are a woman looking for a man, then typically the general qualities desirable in a mate will be found by looking at your Sun's first (major) applying aspect to________? and by your Mars' first applying aspect to_______?

My wife's first applying Sun (15 Gemini) aspect is its conjunction to Saturn (2 Gem). I am Saturnine, serious, born with Sun conjunct/parallel Saturn, Moon in Capricorn. Her Sun/Saturn is in Gemini and I have Mars/MC in Gemini. However, in declination, her Sun's first applying aspect is to Venus, and I am very much Venusian considering the 4 planets I have (plus final dispositor Venus) in Taurus.

Her Mars at 20 Pisces (my DC sign) first applies to Moon 22 Leo by quincunx. I am very Lunar, intuitive, very domestic, with many aspects to the Moon in my birth chart.

Generally, the dominant influences in your birth chart will not be repeated in your partner's chart. Not always, but the idea is that you already have those. What very Saturnine person wants another one as a partner? I'm Saturnine. My wife is very Jovian with Jupiter parallel her Asc.

What you're looking for is relatability + balance. Links to your chart + some things in their chart in signs you don't have, planet emphasis you don't have that creates balance in the relational interaction.

Taking a look at my chart, Moon 12 Cap(looking for 'woman' influence) first applies trine Mercury 22 Taurus, indicating a Mercurial mate, and my wife is a Gemini. Venus 29 Taurus (also 'woman') first applies to Mars 5 Gemini, and my wife is a Gemini with Scorpio (Martial) rising. In declination Venus first applies to Mercury, reaffirming an intellectual/talkative mate. I wanted a woman with a mind of her own, not a wall flowering poser.

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posted December 02, 2015 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes sense.Thanks a lot Kannon!!!!

But how do i know my first applying Sun??what do you mean? :ashamed:

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posted December 02, 2015 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kannon McAfee
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posted December 04, 2015 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No need for shame. This is a learning process that is virtually unending for all of us who keep studying.

Look at the Sun or Mars position, then look around in the direction of the movement of the planets through the zodiac. The planet first aspected by applying aspect (not yet culminated). I count major aspects, which includes the quincunx/150-degree aspect.

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