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ChildofVenus
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posted November 29, 2015 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect does this mean I will always be in violent relationships and fooled by love?

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posted November 30, 2015 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 30, 2015 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No.
You can overcome it, though it may always be somewhat troublesome.
You will have an idealistic view of love and desire it so much that you fool yourself, and others. You can fall in love with a dream, a fantasy.

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posted November 30, 2015 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You say no but I've read otherwise.

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No.
You can overcome it, though it may always be somewhat troublesome.
You will have an idealistic view of love and desire it so much that you fool yourself, and others. You can fall in love with a dream, a fantasy.

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posted November 30, 2015 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well for one thing "always" is a strong word.
That's why I say "no".
I have this aspect and that's another reason why I say "no". My experience hasn't supported that.

The only violence that ever took place was someone who had conjunction, trine in synastry, and nothing in composite.

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posted November 30, 2015 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are two threads about this, just FYI

Everyone can overcome this kind of placement. If what you're asking is if you can overcome abuse going on in a current relationship, obviously everyone would advise against that (case in pt: Chris Brown and Rhianna could NOT stay together with their abuse).

But, just because those two may have it natally does not mean that they will always have it in their relationships. They just need to be aware of it and avoid any relationship that has abusive tendencies. Rhianna can most certainly go on to have a healthy relationship in her life.

If you're talking about SYNASTRY having a Venus/Neptune square, that is different I suppose - if it manifests in the relationship as abuse, then no, they can't overcome that nor should they. But it can also be about spirituality or show in a big difference in cultures.

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posted November 30, 2015 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus square Neptune in my natal chart. I also have Venus opposition Neptune in composite with someone. But I have Venus trine Neptune double whammy in synastry with the same person.

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There are two threads about this, just FYI

Everyone can overcome this kind of placement. If what you're asking is if you can overcome abuse going on in a current relationship, obviously everyone would advise against that (case in pt: Chris Brown and Rhianna could NOT stay together with their abuse).

But, just because those two may have it natally does not mean that they will always have it in their relationships. They just need to be aware of it and avoid any relationship that has abusive tendencies. Rhianna can most certainly go on to have a healthy relationship in her life.

If you're talking about SYNASTRY having a Venus/Neptune square, that is different I suppose - if it manifests in the relationship as abuse, then no, they can't overcome that nor should they. But it can also be about spirituality or show in a big difference in cultures.


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posted November 30, 2015 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I have Venus square Neptune in my natal chart. I also have Venus opposition Neptune in composite with someone. But I have Venus trine Neptune double whammy in synastry with the same person.


I think if it's in your natal, and you have not experienced abusive relationships, then you can trust your judgment here. In general I would just say it is an energy - not an unavoidable aspect that is always going to damn your relationships. If it feels good to be with someone, and does not feel abusive with him/her, then you should just keep going and worry about abuse if you cross that bridge.

But that goes for anyone, obviously.

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posted November 30, 2015 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is more fooled in love. Neptune fogs what it touches and Venus is love.

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posted November 30, 2015 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah you mean deceived while in love.

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I think it is more fooled in love. Neptune fogs what it touches and Venus is love.


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posted November 30, 2015 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah you mean deceived while in love.


But don't forget that it includes self deception. In fact, this was by far the most common in my experience.

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posted November 30, 2015 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, yes, it really IS self deception, basically lol

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posted November 30, 2015 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't see why this is a problem? People with this aspect are usually abused.
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But don't forget that it includes self deception. In fact, this was by far the most common in my experience.

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posted November 30, 2015 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually OP, you weren't incorrect. It does manifest as tending to attract "questionable" people into your life. Having said that, as you get older, your "picker" gets better, and you get better at vetting people so don't worry. I wouldn't entertain half of the fools I did in my 20s (I'm 34 now).

It gets better, don't worry.

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posted November 30, 2015 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
You don't see why this is a problem? People with this aspect are usually abused.

Weird.
I haven't been abused.

But if you're so convinced about everything that you read then why ask? (Which I've never read it meaning abuse by the way)
You wanted confirmation, not opinions or real life experiences.
So I'll leave you to it.

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posted November 30, 2015 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'm 28 now so I guess I have a few more years but you are right about this. Because I had been in a relationship with someone for 9 years. Towards the end things got physical and I knew it was time for me to cut things off. Which I did however I did deal with it for awhile. Yet I realized things weren't going to get better and that I could of possibly ended up getting hurt.

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Actually OP, you weren't incorrect. It does manifest as tending to attract "questionable" people into your life. Having said that, as you get older, your "picker" gets better, and you get better at vetting people so don't worry. I wouldn't entertain half of the fools I did in my 20s (I'm 34 now).

It gets better, don't worry.


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posted November 30, 2015 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think this aspect means abuse.

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posted November 30, 2015 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
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Actually OP, you weren't incorrect. It does manifest as tending to attract "questionable" people into your life. Having said that, as you get older, your "picker" gets better, and you get better at vetting people so don't worry. I wouldn't entertain half of the fools I did in my 20s (I'm 34 now).

It gets better, don't worry.


Thumbs up to this and DopGang's. It doesn't directly point to abuse but that can be a side affect of this aspect. I think Ven.Nep people have an inherently open energy that's hard to close. They (can) have a lot of sympathy and understanding for everyone, and they see the good in others at the expense of their own needs or expression. All of these factors aid in leading to be abused, but they are more or less the primary examples of the square aspect making abuse secondary.

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posted November 30, 2015 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have Venus in Pisces so it's worse for me.

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Thumbs up to this and DopGang's. It doesn't directly point to abuse but that can be a side affect of this aspect. I think Ven.Nep people have an inherently open energy that's hard to close. They (can) have a lot of sympathy and understanding for everyone, and they see the good in others at the expense of their own needs or expression. All of these factors aid in leading to be abused, but they are more or less the primary examples of the square aspect making abuse secondary.

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posted November 30, 2015 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the person does not SEE the nature of the other person.

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posted November 30, 2015 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel this is a hard placement when you have a Libra rising, it just intensifies this placment..

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posted November 30, 2015 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thumbs up to this and DopGang's. It doesn't directly point to abuse but that can be a side affect of this aspect. I think Ven.Nep people have an inherently open energy that's hard to close. They (can) have a lot of sympathy and understanding for everyone, and they see the good in others at the expense of their own needs or expression. All of these factors aid in leading to be abused, but they are more or less the primary examples of the square aspect making abuse secondary.

Yasssssss, this is accurate. My tighest orb in my chart

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posted November 30, 2015 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Venus square Neptune aspect in my natal is a -9 orb so it's not that tight thank goodness.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannaramaa:
[b] Thumbs up to this and DopGang's. It doesn't directly point to abuse but that can be a side affect of this aspect. I think Ven.Nep people have an inherently open energy that's hard to close. They (can) have a lot of sympathy and understanding for everyone, and they see the good in others at the expense of their own needs or expression. All of these factors aid in leading to be abused, but they are more or less the primary examples of the square aspect making abuse secondary.


Yasssssss, this is accurate. My tighest orb in my chart[/B][/QUOTE]

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posted December 02, 2015 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably not, because you know in advance what to watch for from here on out.

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posted December 03, 2015 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Venus square Neptune aspect in my natal is a -9 orb so it's not that tight thank goodness.


You have to wonder if it is a square to begin with. Too wide? I have been told 9 degrees conjunction is too wide so a square is too.

Neptune/venus isn't abuse, it's the chance of being deluded, not seeing it for what it really is. Tolerance when in fact it isn't a healthy relationship anymore so yeah, this could also mean abuse (emotional/physical). Neptune has no boundaries so this can mean this person let's others cross their boundaries. Staying too long in a relationship because you think the person is sick, sad etc... and you don't want to leave them because that means they might get sicker. Neptune says to stay and be tolerant and help.

I have no Neptune square Venus but was always deluding myself in love. Too many times to count. I have Desc. in Pisces.

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