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DopGang
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posted December 03, 2015 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I welcome any conversation about midpoints. (Outside of synastry or the thread will be moved)
I'm getting interested in them.

What led to me to this thread was while looking at mine I noticed that several of my placements land exactly on midpoints.
Mars exactly on Venus/Pluto mp.
Pluto exactly on Venus/Uranus mp.
Sun exactly on a mp.
Asc very near mars/Pluto mp.
There's several and even a mp or two on top of each other! (All less than 2*)
Crazy.

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Faith
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posted December 03, 2015 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Midpoints in Astrology: Gain Deeper Insight from a Natal Chart

To find midpoints:
1) Go to astro.com
2) Choose Extended Chart Selection
3) Enter birth data
4) Go to Methods: Chart drawing style, and scroll down to "Ebertin style (w. midpoints)" Click to show chart.
5) Click on "Additional tables (PDF)" above the chart on the left.
6) Scroll down to Midpoint structures and aspects & Midpoints in zodiacal order

I'm trying to find John Sandbach's interpretations...'can't find his main page but some are here on the right: http://john-sandbach.blogspot.com/2010/11/midpoints-4.html

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posted December 03, 2015 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yours do look pretty intense, DG.

I guess you could be mean if you tried, with a midpoint picture like that! "Asc very near mars/Pluto mp." --> bada$$

My highlights:

1) Venus square Saturn/Pluto MP. Maybe I shouldn't advertise that. LOL

2) Mars/moon MP = Mercury/Saturn MP exact. With moon square Mars and Mercury opposing Saturn. I think that gets me tongue-tied a lot.

3) Saturn = moon/Neptune MP
Interesting because Saturn and Neptune rule my sun and moon, respectively.

From the Sandbach link above:

quote:
Planets activating the Moon/Neptune midpoint
Principle: Emotional sensitivity. The ability to feel the feelings of others, unfortunately often confusing them with one's own. To be uncertain as to how one feels, often because many different emotions are mixing together. To be a self-sacrificing nurturer. The receiving of subtle impressions. Strange or undiagnosable health problems caused by taking on negative psychic energy.

Process: Emotional attunement to higher spiritual realities. The clarifying and refining of the emotional body through clearing it of disharmonious feelings such as sadness, anger and fear. The growth of one's ability to experience deep psychic attunement with other people.

Saturn: Feeling burdened by the feelings of others. To be oppressed by one's own psychic sensitivity. The spiritual need to elevate one's emotions and to transcend negative feelings.


Guess so.


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DopGang
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posted December 03, 2015 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting the instructions! I overlooked that.
Yeah, mars and Pluto both conjunct asc.
Thanks for the links too. I'm gonna check those out right about now.

Saturn on moon/Neptune mp sounds difficult!

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posted December 03, 2015 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I'm gonna check those out right about now. "

I wish I could find the more searchable John Sandbach home page. He contributed so much to the study of midpoints.

"Saturn on moon/Neptune mp sounds difficult!"

Thanks, it's kind of had a sobering effect. Weird things happen to me and I tend to take a non-dramatic view of it or feel like I shouldn't believe my own experiences.

Edit: Like the example I just edited out.

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posted December 03, 2015 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, now you guys got my curiosity up.

Eh...wouldn't my Nodes be on my Sun/Moon Midpoints, due to the almost exact T-square?

Not sure if I understand it entirely just yet, but it seems easier when you have a tight opposition and T-square?

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posted December 03, 2015 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Violets!

Yes, your sun/moon MP = NODES

quote:
The principle of Sun-Moon: The inner marriage. Masculine and feminine. Conscious and unconscious. Active and receptive energies. A beaming light and it’s reflection. What we want and what fulfills us. Future and past. Spirit and soul. Zest for life and comfort zone. Life’s mission and security needs.

Planets Activating the Sun-Moon Midpoint

Node: One’s connections/contacts hold the potential to assist in merging life’s mission with needs for emotional security.


https://sagmind.wordpress.com/2013/11/15/planets-at-the-sun-moon-midpoint/

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posted December 03, 2015 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here we go! Easy peasy:
http://teachmeastrology.com/midpoint-calculator/

Enter your birth data, it supplies your midpoints and interpretations, right there.

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posted December 03, 2015 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:

Here we go! Easy peasy:
http://teachmeastrology.com/midpoint-calculator/

Enter your birth data, it supplies your midpoints and interpretations, right there.


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posted December 03, 2015 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Node: One’s connections/contacts hold the potential to assist in merging life’s mission with needs for emotional security.

That really rings true.

Don't forget your Venus on my NN!

Also, in many ways I would associate emotional security with the good feeling of a caring sense of self that I feel when I'm able to help people, or share important, healing energy with them. That type of inner emotional security.

I didn't word that very eloquently, but I'm going to assume everyone will understand what I meant...

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posted December 03, 2015 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reading those interpretations has opened doors for me. Some are truly eye opening! Wow

There's a butt-ton (yes, I said butt-ton) of them, mostly conjunctions!

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posted December 03, 2015 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Like the example I just edited out.

Heh. I saw the first rendition. I do not blame you.

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posted December 03, 2015 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Don't forget your Venus on my NN!

No, I wouldn't forget! How nice that's it's also on your sun/moon MP.

(*whisper* *psst* I know we're not supposed to talk about synastry here but for the record I think the sun-moon MP is a huge deal in synastry. *end whisper* *this didn't happen*)

quote:
Also, in many ways I would associate emotional security with the good feeling of a caring sense of self that I feel when I'm able to help people, or share important, healing energy with them. That type of inner emotional security.

^^ Pisces

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posted December 03, 2015 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Violets:
Heh. I saw the first rendition. I do not blame you.

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posted December 03, 2015 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
Reading those interpretations has opened doors for me. Some are truly eye opening! Wow

There's a butt-ton (yes, I said butt-ton) of them, mostly conjunctions!


Very cool

I count the oppositions as conjunctions, since they are, really.

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posted December 03, 2015 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see what you're doing there.

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posted December 03, 2015 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do I need to upgrade my PDF stuff, or is it supposed to look like gibberish?

I can recognize the planet and sign glyphs, and the aspect symbols, etc. but a lot of it is showing up as #k, #c, etc.

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posted December 03, 2015 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At astro.com #a, #b and so on represent any additional objects you chose, like Juno, Pallas, etc.

The teachmeastrology link is easier to use.

quote:
Originally posted by Violets:
I see what you're doing there.


That thing I didn't do?

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Here's one I didn't know I had, Chiron = Pluto/Uranus.

quote:
Planets activating the Uranus/Pluto midpoint

Principle: An extreme desire for freedom and for change. A complete and potentially drastic revolution. To burn one's bridges behind oneself. Drastic situations that unleash pent-up energy. The growth and evolution of one's own unique gifts, talents, and abilities.

Process: The overthrowing of deeply entrenched restrictions and limitations. Giving in to one's deepest urges to change.

Uranus/Pluto midpoint activated by Chiron
One's vibration helps others to open up and to be more free, and even eventually to instigate profound changes in one's life.


That would be nice, if I could help.

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posted December 03, 2015 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:

There's a butt-ton (yes, I said butt-ton) of them, mostly conjunctions!


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posted December 03, 2015 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
At astro.com #a, #b and so on represent any additional objects you chose, like Juno, Pallas, etc.

Oh. Heh. Perhaps I should, uh, delete the maximum capacity of additional items I've chosen to add to my chart, lol.

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posted December 03, 2015 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That thing I didn't do?

Yes, that one!

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posted December 03, 2015 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 03, 2015 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Ahahaha!

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posted December 03, 2015 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread is littered with edits.

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posted December 03, 2015 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh. Nevermind the Pisces/Virgo in action there.

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