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ChildofVenus
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posted December 03, 2015 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 04, 2015 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not seeing Venus square Neptune in your chart, the orb is wide (9 degrees) and it's out of sign, but I see Jupiter square Neptune.

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posted December 04, 2015 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So because the orb is so big it isn't actually a square? So what does that mean? The aspect doesn't affect me since the orb is so wide? Is there anything positive about the Jupiter square Neptune aspect?

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I am not seeing Venus square Neptune in your chart, the orb is wide (9 degrees) and it's out of sign, but I see Jupiter square Neptune.

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posted December 05, 2015 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wide orb and out of sign, the impact will be quite minimal though you might feel some of it.

As for Jupiter square Neptune, there are quite a few interesting articles on it. check this one out:
http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Jupiter-Square-Neptune

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posted December 05, 2015 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neptune in 5th, may have problems with definition of your own identity and mark in the world.

in the 5th if where you find what is unique about you. however, neptune search for merging it is opposite from defining yourself.

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posted December 05, 2015 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This can also make me delusional when it comes to love?

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neptune in 5th, may have problems with definition of your own identity and mark in the world.

in the 5th if where you find what is unique about you. however, neptune search for merging it is opposite from defining yourself.


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posted December 05, 2015 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You also have Uranus square Venus. Which might indicate that you are prone to fall for unavailable people. That could be a delusional/self-deceiving aspect, when you keep thinking that you will be able to have a relationship with those unavailable people.

ETA: I guess you are asking those questions because right now you are going through some experience where you think you might be deceivinig yourself regarding someone... Looking at the transits, I would say you are correct.

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posted December 06, 2015 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I am going through a experience with someone but I'm not trying to be in a relationship with that person. I do sense that there is something not completely right about the person. It's just someone who I'd like to be friends with. In what way would I be deceiving myself about that? Can you explain about the transits?

Also what do you suggest that I do in regards to this person?

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You also have Uranus square Venus. Which might indicate that you are prone to fall for unavailable people. That could be a delusional/self-deceiving aspect, when you keep thinking that you will be able to have a relationship with those unavailable people.

ETA: I guess you are asking those questions because right now you are going through some experience where you think you might be deceivinig yourself regarding someone... Looking at the transits, I would say you are correct.


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posted December 06, 2015 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes I am going through a experience with someone but I'm not trying to be in a relationship with that person. I do sense that there is something not completely right about the person. It's just someone who I'd like to be friends with. In what way would I be deceiving myself about that? Can you explain about the transits?

Also what do you suggest that I do in regards to this person?



I can't tell you in which ways you might be deceived yourself, but you yourself have stated that there is something not quite right about that person, so you need to figure out why you feel this way.

Use all your senses, and pay attention to actions, past and present, they always speak louder than words.

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posted December 07, 2015 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure this is going to heap on a bit, but since I've just gotten acquainted with your chart, I will comment here as briefly as I can ...

To answer your original question, Yes. Your Moon [21S28] is Parallel Neptune [22S10], but also in wider Parallel with Saturn [21S31]. This indicates both a tendency for internal states of unclarity about your own needs and feelings, motivations (Moon-Neptune), even a willingness (perhaps subconscious) to sacrifice your needs to help others. Moon-Saturn gives caution, but also adds a tendency to suppress your feelings so that your personal needs are not brought out into objective focus.

Mars [22N59] is also Contra-parallel Neptune, which adds more shadings of subjectivity, uncertain motivations.

Jupiter square Neptune shows a tendency to see the best in others and to view through rose colored glasses, having difficulty assessing risk at times. You may not know that you're gambling with how you are oriented or investing until later when some disillusionment kicks in. This is reinforced by your Mercury conjunction with Jupiter.

However, don't take this as all negative, just related to your original inquiry.

All these Neptune aspects can indicate development of imaginative creativity. And Moon sextile Mercury-Jupiter + trine Mars indicates that if you speak honestly in terms of truth, truthfulness, and verbally insist on it you can obtain it.

For the next few years you will undergo a deep, personal spiritual transformation as indicated by Pluto's transit Parallel natal Moon, Saturn, Neptune (with Saturn joining it for a while). It is very personal, very internal. You may have difficulty articulating what is going on or what you feel. It is a good time to discover the more spiritual communication that transcends words and literal definitions.

Don't let yourself get too closed off or negative. Quickly find positive, supportive people who can help you through this time. I know you will grow and be a more empowered person through it.

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posted December 07, 2015 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess this is part of the reason why I am going through this situation right now? Honestly I don't really have to be around people. I like being to myself anyway. So the part about me needing to be around positive people I can actually do without. As for all the negative things you pointed out. I already knew I was kinda screwed up thanks for looking at my chart.

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I'm sure this is going to heap on a bit, but since I've just gotten acquainted with your chart, I will comment here as briefly as I can ...

To answer your original question, Yes. Your Moon [21S28] is Parallel Neptune [22S10], but also in wider Parallel with Saturn [21S31]. This indicates both a tendency for internal states of unclarity about your own needs and feelings, motivations (Moon-Neptune), even a willingness (perhaps subconscious) to sacrifice your needs to help others. Moon-Saturn gives caution, but also adds a tendency to suppress your feelings so that your personal needs are not brought out into objective focus.

Mars [22N59] is also Contra-parallel Neptune, which adds more shadings of subjectivity, uncertain motivations.

Jupiter square Neptune shows a tendency to see the best in others and to view through rose colored glasses, having difficulty assessing risk at times. You may not know that you're gambling with how you are oriented or investing until later when some disillusionment kicks in. This is reinforced by your Mercury conjunction with Jupiter.

However, don't take this as all negative, just related to your original inquiry.

All these Neptune aspects can indicate development of imaginative creativity. And Moon sextile Mercury-Jupiter + trine Mars indicates that if you speak honestly in terms of [b]truth, truthfulness, and verbally insist on it you can obtain it.

For the next few years you will undergo a deep, personal spiritual transformation as indicated by Pluto's transit Parallel natal Moon, Saturn, Neptune (with Saturn joining it for a while). It is very personal, very internal. You may have difficulty articulating what is going on or what you feel. It is a good time to discover the more spiritual communication that transcends words and literal definitions.

Don't let yourself get too closed off or negative. Quickly find positive, supportive people who can help you through this time. I know you will grow and be a more empowered person through it.

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posted December 08, 2015 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What exactly do you mean by

"spiritual communication that transcends words and literal definitions."


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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I'm sure this is going to heap on a bit, but since I've just gotten acquainted with your chart, I will comment here as briefly as I can ...

To answer your original question, Yes. Your Moon [21S28] is Parallel Neptune [22S10], but also in wider Parallel with Saturn [21S31]. This indicates both a tendency for internal states of unclarity about your own needs and feelings, motivations (Moon-Neptune), even a willingness (perhaps subconscious) to sacrifice your needs to help others. Moon-Saturn gives caution, but also adds a tendency to suppress your feelings so that your personal needs are not brought out into objective focus.

Mars [22N59] is also Contra-parallel Neptune, which adds more shadings of subjectivity, uncertain motivations.

Jupiter square Neptune shows a tendency to see the best in others and to view through rose colored glasses, having difficulty assessing risk at times. You may not know that you're gambling with how you are oriented or investing until later when some disillusionment kicks in. This is reinforced by your Mercury conjunction with Jupiter.

However, don't take this as all negative, just related to your original inquiry.

All these Neptune aspects can indicate development of imaginative creativity. And Moon sextile Mercury-Jupiter + trine Mars indicates that if you speak honestly in terms of [b]truth, truthfulness, and verbally insist on it you can obtain it.

For the next few years you will undergo a deep, personal spiritual transformation as indicated by Pluto's transit Parallel natal Moon, Saturn, Neptune (with Saturn joining it for a while). It is very personal, very internal. You may have difficulty articulating what is going on or what you feel. It is a good time to discover the more spiritual communication that transcends words and literal definitions.

Don't let yourself get too closed off or negative. Quickly find positive, supportive people who can help you through this time. I know you will grow and be a more empowered person through it.

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posted December 09, 2015 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Internal, intuition. Communication within yourself, with the divine, all-knowing within you, for personal guidance.

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posted December 10, 2015 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You make it seem as if I'm completely delusional about everything. Basically that I'll always be self deceiving myself about something. Yet this is what someone else said about my natal chart.
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I think you have a very strong will, determination, unconscious expectations from others, but won't be happy unless you fulfill your need to serve others, use your intuition and /or resources to help others, humanity, instead of yourself or your family.

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Internal, intuition. Communication within yourself, with the divine, all-knowing within you, for personal guidance.


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