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bananaz
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posted December 04, 2015 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I notice everyone in social media joking about how this year everyone is trying hard to be politcally correct. What do you think caused it?

Neptune in Pisces? Saturn moving into Sag? Jupiter in Virgo?

Just curious to see if there are any planetary energies bringing about more sensitivity.

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posted December 04, 2015 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bananaz:
Neptune in Pisces? Saturn moving into Sag? Jupiter in Virgo?

Just curious to see if there are any planetary energies that may have caused this.


I cannot answer your question,, I DO want you to know it caused hearty laughter!

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posted December 04, 2015 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
I cannot answer your question,, I DO want you to know it caused hearty laughter!


Laughter is always good

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posted December 04, 2015 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A colleague of mine made his own play-card that had 'Offended!' printed on it.
He used to play it alot during discussions at coffee-breaks at work

This was some years ago, but maybe he got hit by progressions or something

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posted December 04, 2015 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The most consistent aspect across 2015 has been Uranus square Pluto. Saturn in Sagittarius might be a contributing factor, 'standards' (Saturn) 'applied broadly' (Sag), but that's all I see, other than Saturn square Neptune (Jan-April, Oct-now).

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posted December 04, 2015 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The most consistent aspect across 2015 has been Uranus square Pluto. Saturn in Sagittarius might be a contributing factor, 'standards' (Saturn) 'applied broadly' (Sag), but that's all I see, other than Saturn square Neptune (Jan-April, Oct-now).


Thanks Kannon. I always enjoy your insights. It's been crazy to me this year seeing how much (more than usual) people worry about trivial things so I was interested to see if there was any astrology behind it.

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posted December 04, 2015 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
A colleague of mine made his own play-card that had 'Offended!' printed on it.
He used to play it alot during discussions at coffee-breaks at work

This was some years ago, but maybe he got hit by progressions or something


LOL

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posted December 04, 2015 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't feel I am getting more offended.

I feel that I am more cognizant of hurtful words, habits, & actions in myself and in others.

I've also had the courage to call people out on it where I would normally just sit and seethe in silence.

2015 has felt like "enough is enough" to me.

But offended? No. That's very hard to do.

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posted December 05, 2015 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
I don't feel I am getting more offended.

I feel that I am more cognizant of hurtful words, habits, & actions in myself and in others.

I've also had the courage to call people out on it where I would normally just sit and seethe in silence.

2015 has felt like "enough is enough" to me.

But offended? No. That's very hard to do.


I'm referring to the constant politcal/religious/race debates, open letters, celebrity feuds, personal attacks, corporate judgment etc. Ex: target uses a photoshopped pic in their news ad. The next week everyone is outraged and demanding an apology from target business executives.

I dont know if you've noticed in social media how grumpy people are getting about the rising sensitivity. Its kind of an ongoing joke.

Anyway, I can see your point about enough is enough. Maybe the Pluto/uranus squares made everything boil over in 2015?

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posted December 05, 2015 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm offended you actually posted this! :-/

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posted December 05, 2015 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with whoever said that people are generally getting fed up with other peoples bs, and thats what spurred things that have gone on in the past year.

People who either cant understand that, or just simply don't care, or feel benefitted in some way by the current state of things and don't want to see change, usually will dismiss other peoples justified outrage as being oversensitivity. Until their own sensibilities are offended, then they usually want to launch a war.

Theres a lot of transits of outers right now that indicate confronting authority and society and abuses and wrongs.

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posted December 05, 2015 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I'm offended you actually posted this! :-/

I'm offended you're offended

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posted December 05, 2015 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spongebob:
I agree with whoever said that people are generally getting fed up with other peoples bs, and thats what spurred things that have gone on in the past year.

People who either cant understand that, or just simply don't care, or feel benefitted in some way by the current state of things and don't want to see change, usually will dismiss other peoples justified outrage as being oversensitivity. Until their own sensibilities are offended, then they usually want to launch a war.

Theres a lot of transits of outers right now that indicate confronting authority and society and abuses and wrongs.


Very true, and a lot of this is historical and sociological issues that have been going on for decades/centuries. Problems don't just happen out of the blue or for one year, it stems from the past always. Everything vacuumed under the rug always comes back in full force.

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posted December 06, 2015 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Southern Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally feel that Neptune in Pisces is a contributing factor, along with Uranus/Pluto. People have become too afraid to say or do what they truly feel, for fear of offending someone and being lynched by the knee-jerk mobs. Minds have been clouded by feel-good thoughts, when we know better to look past the imaginary and think critically.

Companies fall on their swords and axe people at the slightest indicator of a public gaff. The media is having a field day stirring the racial pot and pushing the masses into chaos and confusion. People apparently don't trust authorities anymore, yet demand the cops do more to protect citizens from themselves. Hearsay spreads faster than lightning and it's getting people in a panic about Muslims, guns, etc, making a clear cut truth harder to believe.

But that's just me, because I'm dealing with T-squares involving Uranus/Pluto and Neptune to almost every planet on my chart for some years now.

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posted December 06, 2015 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Southern Sun:
I personally feel that Neptune in Pisces is a contributing factor, along with Uranus/Pluto. People have become too afraid to say or do what they truly feel, for fear of offending someone and being lynched by the knee-jerk mobs. Minds have been clouded by feel-good thoughts, when we know better to look past the imaginary and think critically.

Companies fall on their swords and axe people at the slightest indicator of a public gaff. The media is having a field day stirring the racial pot and pushing the masses into chaos and confusion. People apparently don't trust authorities anymore, yet demand the cops do more to protect citizens from themselves. Hearsay spreads faster than lightning and it's getting people in a panic about Muslims, guns, etc, making a clear cut truth harder to believe.

But that's just me, because I'm dealing with T-squares involving Uranus/Pluto and Neptune to almost every planet on my chart for some years now.


I haven't seen anyone becoming afraid of doing what they really feel. Instead I've seen a mass of people expressing their discontent and changing the social climate to, idk, be more decent.

Companies overreacting? Again, disagree. If you were friends with someone and they were racist (the kind that can't even be protected by claiming ignorance), but you were not and didn't want other people thinking you were...are you still going to be friends with them? The sackings I've read about were rightfully deserved in my opinion for the mere fact those idiots publically shared their mockings. At least be smart about sharing things like that, you know?

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posted December 06, 2015 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseastar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bananaz:
I'm referring to the constant politcal/religious/race debates, open letters, celebrity feuds, personal attacks, corporate judgment etc. Ex: target uses a photoshopped pic in their news ad. The next week everyone is outraged and demanding an apology from target business executives.

I dont know if you've noticed in social media how grumpy people are getting about the rising sensitivity. Its kind of an ongoing joke.

Anyway, I can see your point about enough is enough. Maybe the Pluto/uranus squares made everything boil over in 2015?


People weren't angry at Target for a "photoshopped picture." They were angry at Target for running an ad that advocated date rape. (i.e., "Spike your friend's eggnog when she isn't looking"). The fact that ad was approved by multiple people and created by multiple minds and NO ONE noticed how that ad might be interpreted is mind-bogglingly stupid.

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posted December 06, 2015 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2015 is according to the Chinese horoscope the year of the Goat. So being more offended and highlighting feelings would seem appropriate in a year equivalent to the western Cancer sign.

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posted December 06, 2015 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure why treating other human beings with kindness and careful thought is always ridiculed? It's not that hard to use your brain and pick intelligent words that don't have ties to oppression. I don't think people have become more politically correct, I think people have become smarter and more compassionate to our fellow human beings. As human knowledge has progressed and political climates have shifted, language has changed to reflect our widening understanding of what is normal, compassionate, and appropriate to say. Language is always changing.

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posted December 06, 2015 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseastar:
People weren't angry at Target for a "photoshopped picture." They were angry at Target for running an ad that advocated date rape. (i.e., "Spike your friend's eggnog when she isn't looking"). The fact that ad was approved by multiple people and created by multiple minds and NO ONE noticed how that ad might be interpreted is mind-bogglingly stupid.

That was Bloomingdale's:

http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/bloomingdales-apologizes-weird-vaguely-date-rap ey-holiday-ad-168146

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posted December 06, 2015 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with many of the comments here that have added perspective to what could too easily be blanketed with a term like 'political correctness.' Seems to me people usually decry that another person is trying to 'censor' their free speech when they bring up political correctness. When what is generally true is that they are being told that a term or way of referring to another person or group is considered disrespectful or demeaning to persons of that group.

We all have to be educated in empathy by each other and taught how to enlarge our group identities to include the whole. It goes against age old tribal tendencies.

This is not censorship. It is learning how to grow up and speak respectfully so as to maintain a social atmosphere conducive to democracy and peace.

The ad illustrated above is a wink-wink to the dressed up modern chauvinist in which secret desires (for domination/exploitation) are appealed to in order to make a sale. Corporate American can - and should - be called out for this disrespectful ******** .

In terms of Astrology, I consider the US struggle with some of these things to be partly due to Neptune in Virgo, out of its natural place there, and in in the 9th house of publication, universities, higher education, and religion. When you add this to what many astrologers believe that the US is a 'don't fence me in or shut me up' Sagittarius rising personality, you can see how such tendencies need to be brought into balance.

We are a nation of talkers, but not very good listeners.

We'd rather blather a reactionary opinion than get better educated. In fact, the US is a nation full of people who overestimate their real understanding of their own country, society, and the world.

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posted December 06, 2015 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeing students in Missouri marching and carrying signs that say "This is not a Protest" had me speechless,,,, using their right of free speech to protest free speech.
mind boggling beyond belief

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posted December 06, 2015 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bananaz:
I'm referring to the constant politcal/religious/race debates, open letters, celebrity feuds, personal attacks, corporate judgment etc. Ex: target uses a photoshopped pic in their news ad. The next week everyone is outraged and demanding an apology from target business executives.

And I feel we are LONG OVERDUE for calling people (and companies) out on this crap.

It's not that I (or we) are all offended, it's that information moves faster than ever and more people can join together and publicly call out a perpetrator on their nonsense, whether it's racist, sexist, or whatever.

As far as the Target thing goes... do you mean the thigh gap photos? I think they realized how dumb that was (I mean, the photo editing looks like it was done with Paint, not Photoshop) but after being called out, they launched the "Target Loves Every Body” campaign. Of course, to save their own ***** , but they wouldn't have done that without public pressure.

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posted December 06, 2015 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Over the summer, I had to call someone out for using the word "gypped" instead of saying she was "cheated."

Why? Because it's a derogatory word against Roma people and most people don't know that. I was super nice to her because she only looked about 18-19, and was likely naive to the background of the word. I told her it was a racial slur against Roma people and she literally laughed in my face and said "I don't do politically correct bull____."

I said, "That's fine. I was just educating you because I didn't think you understood what the word meant and I didn't want you to continue in your hurtful ignorance" and I went on my way.

She rolled her eyes and it's likely she made fun of me with your young friends for the next 10 minutes, but MAYBE it sank in later. Or maybe she'll meet her karma when a Roma person punches her in the face for saying it.

I wasn't personally offended as I am not a Roma person. I just felt she needed to be called out on her hurtful actions.

I was guilty of using that same word in conversation until someone told me. Then I felt really crappy and I immediately put it in my mind never to say that again. Just like I would never use the other racial slurs heavily in use.

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posted December 06, 2015 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be grateful for such a lesson, Geeky, and had to be taught that myself.

It's just confusing since in America the word gypsy has been used almost as a compliment. I think everyone knows what I mean. Call someone a gypsy and you're saying they are cool.

Maybe we are more sympathetic to the nomadic spirit than some Europeans, because America was settled with conestoga wagons crossing the continent...the image is stamped in our brains as part of our national heritage. Similar to the vardo.

So it seems Roma people over here can proudly call themselves gypsies, knowing we use the word differently. Either that or the famous self-proclaimed "gypsies" have coercive media producers who force them to use that word for marketing reasons. And that's kind of sickening, if they must identify with a word that's anathema to them. But from what I've seen, many of them like that word and consider "Roma" a manufactured and unsuitable term. So it's confusing to me.

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posted December 08, 2015 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith you make a good point. The term seems to be more derogatory in Europe, especially Germany and England.

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