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Topic: Is there a difference between ASC and IC?
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 13, 2015 02:40 PM
I'm confused are both of these the same? Do you need the correct birth time to see aspects to the IC I know you need the birth time for the ASC aspects. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1190 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 13, 2015 03:28 PM
You need the correct timing for a chart to see all the calculated points -- MC/IC, Asc/DC, house lines, etc. Those are the points that must be calculated by an astrologer or astrology software. (Astronomers find the planet positions for us (NASA, JPL).)But no, the Ascendant is not the same as the IC. Ascendant means the point where the ecliptic (Sun's path) meets the eastern horizon. You will only find it by looking at the eastern horizon wherever the Sun rises on that given day. In your chart it represents you, the personality the embodied human. The IC is Latin for Imum Coeli, literally 'the lowest heaven', or undersky (as opposed to MC Medium Coeli or 'middle heaven.' In your chart, IC is your most private life/family connections/roots, the MC, your most public life/goals/aspirations in the world. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Modern professional astrology IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 13, 2015 08:23 PM
So because I used my correct birth time only aspects to my IC would be correct? quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: You need the correct timing for a chart to see [b]all the calculated points -- MC/IC, Asc/DC, house lines, etc. Those are the points that must be calculated by an astrologer or astrology software. (Astronomers find the planet positions for us (NASA, JPL).)But no, the Ascendant is not the same as the IC. Ascendant means the point where the ecliptic (Sun's path) meets the eastern horizon. You will only find it by looking at the eastern horizon wherever the Sun rises on that given day. In your chart it represents you, the personality the embodied human. The IC is Latin for Imum Coeli, literally 'the lowest heaven', or undersky (as opposed to MC Medium Coeli or 'middle heaven.' In your chart, IC is your most private life/family connections/roots, the MC, your most public life/goals/aspirations in the world. [/B]
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 13, 2015 08:49 PM
I used my correct birth time but I don't know the other guys time of birth. I'm trying to figure out if it's saying that his Venus is on my IC or if it's my Venus on his IC. He's the person on the outside. If it's his Venus on my IC would that aspect be accurate since I used my correct birth time?
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NYCdodger Knowflake Posts: 1417 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 13, 2015 09:20 PM
Lol I JUST posted a thread on thisYes theres a huge difference between the two. Our ASC reveals our circumstances in life and where they come from (DC) Our IC reveals the cause and reasoning for our existence and where it belongs.. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 13, 2015 09:47 PM
Ok but is this chart showing that my Venus is on his IC? He's the outside If so that wouldn't be accurate since I don't know his real birth time? quote: Originally posted by NYCdodger: Lol I JUST posted a thread on thisYes theres a huge difference between the two. Our ASC reveals our circumstances in life and where they come from (DC) Our IC reveals the cause and reasoning for our existence and where it belongs..
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NYCdodger Knowflake Posts: 1417 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 13, 2015 09:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Ok but is this chart showing that my Venus is on his IC? He's the outside If so that wouldn't be accurate since I don't know his real birth time?
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 13, 2015 10:00 PM
But because I don't know his birth time that's not accurate even though I used my correct birth time? I Thought it was his Venus on my IC quote: Originally posted by NYCdodger: According to your chart the answer is yes
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NYCdodger Knowflake Posts: 1417 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 13, 2015 10:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: But because I don't know his birth time that's not accurate even though I used my correct birth time? I Thought it was his Venus on my IC
His is on your ASC cusp IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 14, 2015 04:53 AM
Is it a square or conjunction? Also what does that mean? I didn't know I had a ASC cusp my ASC is in LEO. quote: Originally posted by NYCdodger: His is on your ASC cusp
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1190 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 14, 2015 04:03 PM
Geez confusion upon confusion ...ChildofVenus - since it is obvious you got this chart at astro.com it also seems obvious that you entered a time, perhaps noon for him. Don't do that. You're creating your own confusion. Enter 'time unknown' before you cast anyone's chart. That way it will not calculate points like Asc, MC, IC, etc. I suggest you get to know your chart. While you may still have some learning to do about what it means, at least you'll be working with your birth time, and your personal questions about you and your life. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Modern professional astrology IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 14, 2015 05:59 PM
You can't do a synastry chart without a birth time on astro.com. You said having his birth time doesn't make a difference anyway. quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Geez confusion upon confusion ...ChildofVenus - since it is obvious you got this chart at astro.com it also seems obvious that you entered a time, perhaps noon for him. Don't do that. You're creating your own confusion. Enter 'time unknown' before you cast anyone's chart. That way it will not calculate points like Asc, MC, IC, etc. I suggest you get to know [b]your chart. While you may still have some learning to do about what it means, at least you'll be working with your birth time, and your personal questions about you and your life. [/B]
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2495 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 14, 2015 07:54 PM
quote: But no, the Ascendant is not the same as the IC.
True. quote: Ascendant means the point where the ecliptic (Sun's path) meets the eastern horizon. You will only find it by looking at the eastern horizon wherever the Sun rises on that given day. In your chart it represents you, the personality the embodied human.
More confusion here, Mr. Astrologer. The Asc (ascendant) is the individual being born. The Asc Sign / Rising Sign is the zodiac sign on the eastern horizon at the moment that person is being born. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 14, 2015 10:07 PM
What does Venus on the ASC cusp mean? quote: Originally posted by Nine: More confusion here, Mr. Astrologer. The Asc (ascendant) is the individual being born. The Asc Sign / Rising Sign is the zodiac sign on the eastern horizon at the moment that person is being born.
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