posted December 21, 2015 06:25 PM            

Do you mean transits that trigger a breaking point, or natal aspects that contribute to the breaking point, or...?

Also, how do you define "breaking point"? Do you mean full-on meltdown, or just the point where politeness takes a back seat and you go off, or the point where you put your head down and cry...?

I guess "breaking point" means different things to different people, so I'll think about it, and hope you'll be back to respond.

What's yours?

posted December 21, 2015 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by HadesFish:
... Not really sure of how else to phrase it. Could be personal, professional, etc., a mixture. But is it you or outside influences/mixture of both. I'm aware that it may take many to get there, but there is only one, Regardless of the many it takes... I'd like to know what position in life and personal aspect finally makes you leap to that point..

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I can't define it, hence the question. I do believe some aspects may find it easer to define than I, although. I as a water moon may see a fire sign holler and I'm like yeah!!!
Transits matter if you already know your likes/dislikes, whether let out or held in.

Whatever is clever. I'm not sure what can make or break.... Just the point of Snap. Can't really answer in a way to make clear. I'd like to give examples but they are just a build up and idea for why.... Intentionally or not. Sounds confusing, I know.

Voilets, your name is too pretty for my answer, cuz literally dying flowers kill me and I don't have water with my response.

Built up - for some a smell, a kiss, a memory, a delusion, etc.

posted December 21, 2015 07:56 PM            

Anyway...

I don't have much of a breaking point as far as what will cause me to cry from sorrow or joy, because those feelings tend to flow pretty freely for me. I'm not ashamed of them, so I rarely if ever hold them back.

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It did just occur to me that I will not cry about personal things in front of people, usually. I suppose it depends on what it is, but I prefer to keep my own personal sorrows or joys either to myself, or share only with those closest to me.

Rage, though...I do bottle that up until I explode. I have Mars square Uranus natally, and if I don't have a proper outlet for that rage (and privacy to work it out physically with exercise or hard work, as my Mars is in Capricorn and Uranus in Scorpio), I will blow a gasket eventually.

Usually when something taps into my Pluto/Saturn square with a hard aspect.

posted December 21, 2015 11:09 PM            

Almost lost it today at work but was also in a weird mood. This girl I work and usually get along with is an attention freak and if no one is paying attention to her she'll disrupt whatever convo is going on just so someone notices her...basically only the males. Everything she says is superficial and involving her sex life and it makes my brain hurt sometimes. Iiii kinda wanted to choke her today.

posted December 21, 2015 11:16 PM            

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Originally posted by mamawolf:
I have Mars in 12th house so I keep my anger in check, aka suppress it a bit too much until I just cant take it anymore. Here is an example!

Almost lost it today at work but was also in a weird mood. This girl I work and usually get along with is an attention freak and if no one is paying attention to her she'll disrupt whatever convo is going on just so someone notices her...basically only the males. Everything she says is superficial and involving her sex life and it makes my brain hurt sometimes. Iiii kinda wanted to choke her today.

Probably just my Cap and Aqua hating on her Libra stellium and Leo moon....

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I feel yer pain. My Mars/Uranus has almost lost my marbles on people at work for similar reasons, lol.

But that Cap Mars of mine just will not let it happen. So I have to go home and like, mow the yard or chop wood or something.

I'll add that what has made me really come close at work was my coworkers, when I worked with elderly residents in a nursing home, in the dementia unit.
The girls I worked with would sit around and gossip about each other in front of the residents, and all of their coworkers.

It made me livid. It was all I could do not to punch them (my coworkers) in the face. I mean, the residents have to live there and listen to that. They can't get up and leave. It's not fair to act as though they can't hear or understand what's being said around them.

posted December 22, 2015 03:57 AM            

It takes a lot for me to get there, but I have personal triggers that can push me over the edge. I've been victimized in the past, so anything that resembles that (such as bullying, narcissistic people, people trying to take advantage) combined with sleep deprivation, working too much and regular day-to-day anxiety, can get me to that point really quickly. It takes a looonnnggg time to recover from a breakdown like that.

I can deal with any (or all) of those factors, minus the victimization. But when that becomes an issue, I shut down. If it's a relationship, I'll leave them. If it's a job, I'll quit. I'll remove myself from the situation immediately. Then I'll have a nervous breakdown.

I don't know what factors cause this, though. I have a lot of earth in my chart and Saturn aspects. One of my tightest aspects is Sun trine Saturn. I work my butt off at anything I take on, whether it's a relationship or a new job. My tightest aspect is Mars sextile Jupiter. I have a tendency to be optimistic and happy go-lucky, but with Pisces rising and Mercury trine Neptune, I think I delude myself into thinking things are better than they really are. Like, "everything's great" when it's really not...and then by the time I realize it's not great, it's actually pretty horrible. I think sometimes it takes someone bulldozing a trigger of mine for me to realize how bad things really are. I don't even know if that makes sense or not.

posted December 22, 2015 05:00 AM            

Work thing hit me this year as well, because the dynamic changed, for the worst - rock and hard place for me because ultimately I love what I do. It sucks.
Yeah, it's hard to be at a job where you care for people, but people only care about themselves.

SV - makes sense to me also, more than I also can explain.

T/SV - how did you deal? Not intending to bring you back to that place, just I can relate to this, and I'm currently in the process of cutting people off in my personal life. Yes, this sucks the energy out of you, but I have my reasons and while doing this I also have purpose(s) - salvaging the relationship, figuring out if it's me, etc. , proving a point because I'm at my wits end. Sad thing is, it's my family and friends. I'm tired of being tired. They outwardly go on as nothing is wrong, but I'm dying inside. I know inside they are too.
If I didn't care I would never do this and question it, I would just do and never look back, as sick as it sounds.

posted December 22, 2015 07:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
SV, that all makes sense to me.

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Me, too. I also have Mars sextile Jupiter insisting on being happy, Pisces moon square Neptune not wanting to notice I'm unhappy, with Saturn fogged over and kinda useless (?) in the 12H.

Even if I go through a breaking point and everyone around me notices I'm in a funk, that's not the script in my head. The script is, "I'm fine, I'm gonna snap out of this any minute. Just give me one more minute." But that has gone on for months before.

Sometimes anything that relieves me of an ongoing suppressed pain will make me cry and finally admit to myself what was happening. Then, I think, the breaking point coincides with a turnaround in healing.

posted December 22, 2015 08:45 AM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:
Like SV said, [b]bullying, narcissistic people, people trying to take advantage can really make my stomach sick and smoke from ears angry.
A lack of empathy too.

Also stupidity. Ignorance can be dealt with, but stupidity, I just can't stand.[/B]

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posted December 22, 2015 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by mamawolf:
I have Mars in 12th house so I keep my anger in check, aka suppress it a bit too much until I just cant take it anymore.

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Mars 12th here too. I've gotten SO much better at not holding in. I think I'm almost "normal" now.

I start going nuts when I have to deal with many "small" issues that make no f*****g logical sense as to why they haven't already been taken care of. So it annoys me and wastes my time. It just doesn't make any Damn sense!!! I'm getting worked up just thinking about it. (Work scenarios). I can be tolerant but when I explain something that a 10 year old would say makes sense to them and then I work with adult morons who just don't get it.

Ok I gotta quit.