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LovelyKitty
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posted December 22, 2015 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I just want to know how is the natal chart look like ?

Is it emphasis on House 2nd, 8th?

Is 5th and 11th involved?

What planets should be in house?

Do you have any relative /customers that success how is his /her chart?

Please share, Thank you

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Randall
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posted December 23, 2015 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Federal_Reserve
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posted December 24, 2015 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Federal_Reserve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
Hi, I just want to know how is the natal chart look like ?

Is it emphasis on House 2nd, 8th?

Is 5th and 11th involved?

What planets should be in house?

Do you have any relative /customers that success how is his /her chart?

Please share, Thank you


I'm going to answer it since I started investing when I was still very young,

But first let’s be clear towards what you call investing:

“An investment operation is one which, upon through analysis promises safety of principal and an adequate return. Operations not meeting these requirements are speculative. ” - Read it again and reflect.

Now, most successful investors (historically), focus on Value. And downplay emotion. For most people ‘investing is fools game’ because they never play it on ‘edge/odds’ rule. Also, they think ‘Risk’ is correlated with return. Which is more dependent on ‘uncertainties’ involving investment.
‘Stock Market’ is no different than Real Estate provided it generates ‘cash flows’. In Stock Market, you are buying business, (XOM, CVX) so on. Now in order for it to BE great INVESTMENT it depends on the PRICE you paid for it and your patience to wait for PRICE to REFLECT VALUE.
*So currently we have (3 traits):
1. Down on earth thinking, based on logic, no emotions.
2. Calculative, Probabilities and outcomes etc.
3. Patience and confidence in your own judgment.
Now, you won’t ever be successful if you go along with the masses or ‘crowd’ so you need contrarian thinking for it. Most of the people, will overplay emotions once price of their stocks go down, smart will jump in the game, as long as prices are going down, you get ‘business’ cheaper due to relationship to value, unless business is actually destroying its value.
So we came for 4’th trait:
4. Contrarian thinking
Now, historical examples on why stock market is no different than an actual smart investment provided it does generate cash flows to yield more.
*Marcus Licinius Crassus – Bought Villages and burned buildings for pennies, they turned him wealthest person in the Roman History. (You see pattern here? Buying something VALUABLE for pennies).
*Nathan Mayer Rothschild – Bought undervalued government bonds during Waterloo Battle.

*Warren Buffet – Bought many undervalued Business, became wealthiest person, student of Graham‘s teachings. (Many of Graham students turned top notch stock market investors);

In defense of great speculants or ‘traders’ I would say it comes down to minimizing chances of loss.
Either, probability of 80% for success in a trade.

That’s how Soros broke the bank, Duckenmiller calculated that he will break the bank of England by shorting, and Soros did that it was calculated risk (Although not a dumb one, it certainly had an obvious edge);


All of Investors, most of them, actually I would say 96% of successful are LONG TERM investors WHO’M focus ON VALUE. (Buffet, Munger, Howard Marks, Seth Klarman, Bruce Berkowitz AND SO ON…)

Don’t know which houses it will represent, as RISK is usually ASSOCIATED WITH UNCERTAINTY, but not an oblivious one, but calculated, provided it’s WORTH taking and WON’T destroy your capital in worst situation.

So,

1. Individuality, Analytical Bent, Different Point of View.
2. Patience, Confidence in your OWN judgement
3. No emotions associated with buying BARGAINS
4. Calculation, on many levels.


So you might find these 'traits' useful on your research.

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12muddy
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posted December 24, 2015 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My income comes mostly from stocks and property investment. I don't think I'm "successful" though. It was rough at first, but eventually it gives me a comfortable life (financially anyway). Here are the aspects and placements which I think contribute. Hope it helps.

From what I've read:

The positions of saturn and mars are important, since they can give insights on the natives' "drive to success".

Mars trine saturn. My saturn is in the 1st conjunct asc.

Venus aspects to 2sc or 8th house ruler, or venus favorable aspects - may suggest one's ability to easily "attract" money.

My venus conj asc/saturn and uranus (2sc house ruler). My 2sc house ruler is uranus, also conjunct sun (8th house ruler), it may explain why the money flow is erratic at times. Uranus is in the 12th house, so I've experienced some losses, nothing too big to handle though.

Jupiter - my 7th house jupiter square pluto (10th and 11th house ruler). Pluto also sextile Venus/saturn/asc. The more risks I take, the more money I make. And I do very well in partnerships, one may even say that a great part of my luck comes from forming partnerships.

I can't think of anything else other than those few things.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 24, 2015 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I made my early wealth from the stock market - in my college days. I have no idea about the astrology. I'm 10th, 11th and 2nd heavy. I have nothing in 8th.

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