posted December 25, 2015 10:41 PM            

It was key for him to balance his work life and home life in this life and also to be in touch with his emotional nature yet he struggled with these tending to neglect himself, his emotional side and family life in favor of his career and success. His career was his family and his baby but at the cost of disturbing the nodal balance and neglecting his northnode in the 4th. Perhaps that is sadly the cost of greatness and extreme success that something inevitably is neglected and sacrificed.

I think he worked so hard he made himself sick in a way, well to be accurate workaholism in combination with the inability to process deep emotions and wounds stemming from childhood and his tendency to neglect his emotional side and himself.

In the documentary they mention that the fact he was adopted was a big trigger for him emotionally and a touchy topic growing up. I feel that already set him off in a path of wanting to succeed tremendously to proof his worth and overcompensate for feelings of rejection early in childhood but also set him off to an early death.

Let me explain, I feel cancer is not purely a biological sickness and see it as a combination of a number of variables:

"Risk factor #7. Has an inability to resolve deep-seated emotional problems and conflicts, usually beginning in childhood, often even being unaware of their presence.

It is very common for those with cancer to have a long-standing tendency to suppress “toxic emotions”, particularly anger. Usually beginning in childhood, this individual has held in their hostility and other unacceptable emotions. More often than not, this feature of the affected personality has its origins in feelings of rejection by one or both parents. Whether these feelings of rejection are justified or not, the individual perceives this rejection as real, and this results in a lack of closeness with the “rejecting” parent, followed later in life by a lack of closeness with spouses and others with whom close relationships would normally develop."

posted December 25, 2015 10:43 PM            

How one reacts to stress appears to be a major factor in the larger number of contributing causes of cancer. Most cancer patients have experienced a highly stressful event, usually about 2 years prior to the onset of detectable disease. This traumatic event is often beyond the patient’s control, such as the loss of a loved one, loss of a business, job, home, or some other major disaster. The typical cancer personality has lost the ability to cope with these extreme events, because his/her coping mechanism lies in his/her ability to control the environment. When this control is lost, the patient has no other way to cope.

Major stress causes suppression of the immune system, and does so more overwhelmingly in the cancer-susceptible individual than in others. Thus personal tragedies and excessive levels of stress appear to combine with the underlying personality described above to bring on the immune deficiency which allows cancer to thrive.

For the majority of people, coping with stress and highly stressful or traumatic events or conflicts is dealt with, with relative ease. Although those in this larger group feel the devastating effects of stress, stressful events, trauma, and conflicts, including grief and loss – stressful events are seen as part of life’s challenges, life’s ups and downs, and they are for they most part anticipated and not completely unexpected. These people are able to move on with their lives quickly afterwards.

Those susceptible to cancer, are highly vulnerable to life’s stresses and trauma, and feel unable to cope when life throws a curve-ball their way. These people are perfectionists and live in fear of conflict, stress, trauma and loss and are deeply frightened of negative events “happening” to them. And when faced with a highly stressful or traumatic event they have not anticipated, which inevitably happens during their life, react adversely and are unable to cope.

posted December 25, 2015 10:57 PM            

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posted December 25, 2015 11:10 PM            

Physically Cancer is a mutation of cells > spiritually growing in the wrong direction.
sugar fuels the mutation
by the time he figured out the real sweetness in life it was too late , he could not let go of his addiction > creating and feeling the power of it to him was sweeter, not family but toys,power and self-adulation.
just my meta half cent..

good post Hypatia!

posted December 25, 2015 11:29 PM            

41 minute video by John McDougall, M.D.

He says that Jobs was working with serious carcinogens in his work as a young man (skip to 28:53), potent poisons that probably created the cancer even in his 20's. (Starting at 8:28)

posted December 25, 2015 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Why Did Steve Jobs Die?

41 minute video by John McDougall, M.D.

He says that Jobs was working with serious carcinogens in his work as a young man (skip to 28:53), potent poisons that probably created the cancer even in his 20's. (Starting at 8:28)

I'm a believer in natural remedies, and the preventability of cancer, and I don't mean to contradict what you are saying about stress, hypatia. Perhaps he could have nipped it in the bud, without the stress, and with a healthier lifestyle overall.

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This is my point, I dont think that what you are pointing out is the ONLY reason why he got cancer and DIED of cancer. With cancer I feel there are MANY variables that work together to make it happen and you are providing one piece of the puzzle and I the other. I feel with cancer its not ONLY a biological matter at play but there is also other variables in addition that play a role that are just as important or more. Many people have made studies looking into this and I see its validity.

I rarely feel that anything is purely biological and belief a lot in the environment interacting with our genetic makeup and controlling gene expression such as illustrated in the epigenetics theory but I digress..

We are all exposed to carcinogens, some more than others yes but even if we control for degree of exposure there are people who don't get cancer. Say he was working with others who were just as exposed to carcinogens as he was yet they did not get cancer so now we would need to look at their personalities and history among other things to see if there was trauma, lifestyle factors/habits and personality factors that put them at higher risk.

posted December 26, 2015 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
south node Cancer and 10th, upside down.

Physically Cancer is a mutation of cells > spiritually growing in the wrong direction.
sugar fuels the mutation
by the time he figured out the real sweetness in life it was too late , he could not let go of his addiction > creating and feeling the power of it to him was sweeter, not family but toys,power and self-adulation.
just my meta half cent..

good post Hypatia!

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Interesting perspective.

Primary emotional issues according to Hamer for Pancreatic Cancer:
Anxiety, anger, family conflicts, inheritance issues

Primary emotional issues according to Starwynn/TCM for Pancreatic Cancer:
Lack of emotional sweetness in life, relationship traumas
http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=32593

"After years of taking histories of my cancer patients I have noticed a marked connection between their core emotional issues, their most imbalanced chakras and the location of the tumors. Cancer usually manifests in the body area near the most imbalanced chakra that is most affected by their core issue."

posted December 26, 2015 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Great Thread, H!

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