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lundan
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posted December 27, 2015 02:33 AM
 
I heard that uranus and neptune aspects to ascendant are overlooked as indicators of a suicidal person.
for example, kurt cobain had uranus right on the ascendant.
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Bluejay
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posted December 27, 2015 03:43 AM
I haven't studied enough charts to see a pattern. My grandpa committed suicide, but unfortunately I don't know his birth time to see aspects to the AC. One thing that I found really strange is that my grandpa and Kurt both had Mars/Sun aspects nearly exact to the minute. I have read that people with harsh Mars/Sun aspects can have fatal head injuries, but my grandpa had the sextile and Kurt had the trine with a one minute orb. Like Kurt, it was a shot to the head with a shotgun. Also, I always suspected my grandma may have been involved in his death, and there are a lot of people that suspect Courtney Love was involved in Kurt's death. Kurt also has Chiron, Venus, and Saturn conjunct within 4 degrees on his DC. There may be something to that theory. I would imagine that Uranus opposite that stellium and falling right on his AC would cause a lot of chaos in his life.I know it's only 2 examples, but I found the similarities pretty eerie. Eta: On the day of Kurt's death transiting Mars was in exact opposition of his natal Uranus, conjunct his DC and hitting several planets in his chart. IP: Logged |
mirage29
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posted December 27, 2015 02:56 PM
{{{  Bluejay... So tenderly sorry for your loss }}}IP: Logged |
lundan
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posted December 27, 2015 02:58 PM
thank you so much for sharing
was very helpful and sorry about your grandpa quote:
Originally posted by Bluejay:
I haven't studied enough charts to see a pattern. My grandpa committed suicide, but unfortunately I don't know his birth time to see aspects to the AC. One thing that I found really strange is that my grandpa and Kurt both had Mars/Sun aspects nearly exact to the minute. I have read that people with harsh Mars/Sun aspects can have fatal head injuries, but my grandpa had the sextile and Kurt had the trine with a one minute orb. Like Kurt, it was a shot to the head with a shotgun. Also, I always suspected my grandma may have been involved in his death, and there are a lot of people that suspect Courtney Love was involved in Kurt's death. Kurt also has Chiron, Venus, and Saturn conjunct within 4 degrees on his DC. There may be something to that theory. I would imagine that Uranus opposite that stellium and falling on right on his AC would cause a lot of chaos in his life.I know it's only 2 examples, but I found the similarities pretty eerie. Eta: On the day of Kurt's death transiting Mars was in exact opposition of his natal Uranus, conjunct his DC and hiiting several planets in his chart.
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Ami Anne
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posted December 27, 2015 03:43 PM
I see Uranus as a factor in things involving mental health, not just Uranus/ASC but Uranus/Mercury and more so, from my limited experience.------------------
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Bluejay
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posted December 27, 2015 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by mirage29:
{{{ Bluejay... So tenderly sorry for your loss }}}
Thank you. Actually this was before I was born, so I never even knew him. This was my paternal grandpa, my dad was the youngest of 5 kids, and they were all adults when my grandpa took his own life. It divided my family, and some relatives didn't speak for over 20 years, so this tragedy did have long lasting effects. I think with suicide it's nearly impossible for loved ones to get closure and make peace with their loss. IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh
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posted December 27, 2015 05:40 PM
Knew a guy who was going through a Uranus opposite Mercury transit who killed himself a week before Christmas in 2012. He was going through a rough time at school and I think the Uranus opposition to his Mercury only further complicated his thinking. I'm currently going through the conjunction, luckily I feel pretty good. IP: Logged |
PaulMcFly
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posted December 27, 2015 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
I haven't studied enough charts to see a pattern. My grandpa committed suicide, but unfortunately I don't know his birth time to see aspects to the AC. One thing that I found really strange is that my grandpa and Kurt both had Mars/Sun aspects nearly exact to the minute. I have read that people with harsh Mars/Sun aspects can have fatal head injuries, but my grandpa had the sextile and Kurt had the trine with a one minute orb. Like Kurt, it was a shot to the head with a shotgun. Also, I always suspected my grandma may have been involved in his death, and there are a lot of people that suspect Courtney Love was involved in Kurt's death. Kurt also has Chiron, Venus, and Saturn conjunct within 4 degrees on his DC. There may be something to that theory. I would imagine that Uranus opposite that stellium and falling on right on his AC would cause a lot of chaos in his life.I know it's only 2 examples, but I found the similarities pretty eerie. Eta: On the day of Kurt's death transiting Mars was in exact opposition of his natal Uranus, conjunct his DC and hiiting several planets in his chart.
Really? You know thats very interesting. You say transit Mars was doing its thing when he died. His 8th house was rules by Aries.
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Bluejay
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posted December 27, 2015 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
Really? You know thats very interesting. You say transit Mars was doing its thing when he died. His 8th house was rules by Aries.
I've looked at the charts of several people that have died, people that I've known as well as celebrities. Unfortunately most birth times are not known or are estimates. I do find it interesting though that Mars, Saturn or Pluto tend to be involved in the transits for the day of death. Usually at a 0 degree orb! The fact that Mars was hitting such a crowded spot in his chart is pretty crazy! Regardless of whether he really did take his own life or was murdered, it shows the potential for something bad to happen on that day. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted December 28, 2015 12:36 AM
I've never attempted suicide but I've been pretty close to going absolutely insane for reasons unknown to me, on a conscious level at least! Uranus is also a daily struggle for me with strange thoughts and "revelations" out of nowhere along with a soul-deep need for freedom from everything. I have: Uranus 3H sextile Asc, Mars 0.01 degree
Uranus sq Saturn, Venus 11H
Uranus trine Mercury 3H
Uranus conj NN, IC
Uranus opp. Jupiter, Chiron
Stellium in 11H
Aqua Vertex 6H Mercury is my chart ruler with Uranus as total ruled by delineation. IP: Logged |
married11years
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posted April 20, 2022 11:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Bluejay:
I haven't studied enough charts to see a pattern. My grandpa committed suicide, but unfortunately I don't know his birth time to see aspects to the AC. One thing that I found really strange is that my grandpa and Kurt both had Mars/Sun aspects nearly exact to the minute.Eta: On the day of Kurt's death transiting Mars was in exact opposition of his natal Uranus, conjunct his DC and hitting several planets in his chart.
Yes, I'm aware that I bump an old thread, but other people bump old threads all the time. I just want to say.
This is scary. My husband's father one the day of his death, his Mars Opposing Uranus was at EXACTLY 0°00’
I even have a thread on it. My husband father have Mars Opposition Uranus, and on the day he died it was EXACTLY AT 0°00’ the line was in bold red color and right over right on top of it. Scary. I not sure about the Sun Trine Mars. Don't scare me, my husband has his Sun TRINE his Mars (and Scorpio Mars). Ugh.. eta: My husband dad (deceased) has a Scorpio Mars.
My husband also has a Scorpio Mars. F-ck. I just check Kurt Cobain has a Scorpio Mars too!! Scorpio Mars must HATE Opposition Uranus. That was how my husband dad too, right exactly 0 degree when transiting Mars in 0 degree of his natal Uranus!!! IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted April 22, 2022 10:21 AM
i have uranus sextile my ascendant and neptune trine my sun and have attempted it in the past and am not opposed to trying again one day in the right circumstancesin vedic ketu (south node) in first house can be an indicator (i have this) IP: Logged |
saronna
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posted April 23, 2022 12:44 AM
Why do you want to attempt suicide.IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted April 24, 2022 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by saronna:
Why do you want to attempt suicide.
i don't want to attempt it, if i were to do it i'd want to succeed lol it's not like a goal to **** that up or something i have attempted it in the past, and i'm not anti-suicide going to pretend i never would or some **** but like... it's not like "oh i want to try this out"or something you want my life story or something? because i'm not up for all that right now IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted April 24, 2022 12:57 PM
My uncle actually did end his life when I was in my teens. A sad loss within the 3D in my world.
I'll look at his chart to share his Uranus details.Tr Uranus was square his Moon. The Saturn was cnj his VERTEX and asteroid Fini (finished) Opposite his Jupiter. Sextile his bml. Going against the norm. His story, he loved a lady who betrayed his heart. He loved her strongly. He took it upon himself to drink himself far enough to kill his liver in real time. He hung on a bridge, the police got him and he died @the hospital, his liver shut down.
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saronna
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posted April 24, 2022 07:26 PM
No not your life story. I feel suicidal sometimes with my Uranus in 6th house libra retrograde. I don't know if my south node is in first house. I don't know why I feel suicidal sometimes. Maybe it gets too much with Uranus Libra in 6th house virgo retrograde with health & I feel overwhelmed too much strong in Uranus retrograde & I capsized. & too strong sun trine mars. Too much strong mars & Uranus.
I did attempt suicide in the past but my Jupiter sexile Pluto helps me to find some balance to not suicide.IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted April 25, 2022 07:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by saronna:
No not your life story. I feel suicidal sometimes with my Uranus in 6th house libra retrograde. I don't know if my south node is in first house. I don't know why I feel suicidal sometimes. Maybe it gets too much with Uranus Libra in 6th house virgo retrograde with health & I feel overwhelmed too much strong in Uranus retrograde & I capsized. & too strong sun trine mars. Too much strong mars & Uranus.
I did attempt suicide in the past but my Jupiter sexile Pluto helps me to find some balance to not suicide.
sorry you've experienced that, there's a lot to why i feel i feel the way i do, and it's too much to unpack my uranus is mostly well aspected and part of a kite (the only harsh aspects are a square to jupiter and opposition to chiron) sextile my ascendant/venus/south node conjunction (in libra) trine my moon (aries) and trine my mercury (leo) it sits in my 3rd house IP: Logged |
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