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PaulMcFly
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posted January 03, 2016 02:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So a lot has been on my mind lately. I've been living in my Honda so I've had a lot of introspective and mind blowing revelations. These past couple of years my soul has been crying for help and I haven't been listening. One thing I started pondering about was Pluto and his objective. Just what does he do? Why do some LOVE or HATE him (me)?

Pluto is a water planet, which means it's deep, nurturing, intuitive and introspective. As tough as he is he even still needs love, and if you show your love to him he will reward you BEYOND YOUR WILDEST DREAMS. He WILL MAKE YOU A KING. This is because whatever Pluto touches he wants to add TRUTH, RAWNESS, PASSION, POWER, AND LEADERSHIP. He WANTS you to be the BOSS of WHATEVER it touches. Nothing less. Pluto will give you the power to master ANYTHING.

But why do you think Pluto is known for Kings, Dictators but also Violence and enemies?

Lets say you have Sun Trine Pluto. First lets put the two together. The Sun is YOU. (Your highest awoken self, everything revolves around him). The Sun is your life force, indivdual and conscious you. You're best self)

And Pluto is your (RAW POWER, INTENSITY, SEX APPEAL, DESTRUCTIVE, REGENERATING AND NO B.S NATURE)

Since Pluto is touching your core self, he wants you to be the MASTER of YOU. He can give you the power to be an untouchable, badass warrior (ex. Bruce Lee)

Pluto IS the ONLY planet that can essentially make you PERFECT and REAL. If Pluto makes healthy aspects to something, you will have an easier time accepting and using his power (which he loves because it's a water planet, he.wants to.be.appreciated..he.wants.nothing.more than for you to be your truest most RAW self)

So negative aspects to Pluto will make you more unconsciously hateful, fearful, and scared of him. If don't accept pluto for how he is face first he will make sure you don't survive, thus drawing enemies to you. He is also the planet of revenge. He doesnt fk around like other planets and dammit he WILL make his point even if that means everything it touches destroys you. Sad right? No. he does this because he.wants you to be the.best you can possibly be. A leader. Thats why people with a healthy pluto are usually so revered and idolized. They exude cool.


So if he is squaring your Moon , your emotional, nurturing, unconscious (lower) self will be fighting him. He still wants you to be a master of your emotional, deepest self but you are battling his power and oh so mastery qualities. if you choose to deny him then you are an enemy to him. Yes YOU are your own enemy when it comes to your moon qualities.


Sun squaring pluto wouls essentially make you scared of your own power and well YOU. and if you chooss to be a wimp and nothing less than your BOSS self he will crush you until you get the freaking point (by drawing enemies to you)

Yea being the leader can be scary thats why so many people push him aside, which really really ticks him off. In Pluto's defense: why wouldn't you want to.be your BEST self? When all I want is for you to be a badass?

I have sun square pluto natally and i and realized if im not the leading, or 100% and I mean 100% confident self he will fk me over. my progressed sun in now trine pluto so that means im learning my lesson. And he has been amazing to me.

pluto is a really awesome planet guys, dont be afraid of your (his) primal unsuperficial, transformative power when theres no need to.be.

Last thing, if pluto is aspecting your venus negatively, yoy will have problems and enemies in relationships and love becauss.you are seen POWERFUL and a leader in this aspect in others eyes. You still have all the greatness of him but you just have difficulty accepting your mastery LOVE nature. for example I have venus sextile pluto and I have.noticed I have never had a hard time showing his intensity or leadership qualities in this catagory. Im a virgin but people think I get loads of sex...its.because I do not fear him in this area of life..

He also gives magnetism to whatever he hits and the tighter the aspect the more apparent it will be in your life. This is why hes known for stalkers..your too cool foe your own good..people.want to either be you, idolize you or hate you. so if you can master all of his aspscts and dont fear him he will kind of make you an all out kickass and powerful godly person

my bad for long post

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PixieJane
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posted January 03, 2016 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This does remind me when Pluto was transiting my Sag stellium (including Mars-Uranus, which was explosive) sextile to my natal Pluto (in its own stellium, and also conjunct sun) during my teen years.

The only part is I typically wasn't a leader...but I wasn't bossed around either. I had no interest in it, perhaps because my Sag stellium is in the 5H and prefers my freedom (and being a leader deprives one's self of freedom). Or maybe it was just my age (teens) and gender, IDK. Though there were those who followed my lead, but that wasn't me exerting any authority, it was just me doing my thing and some decided to do it along with me.

But I look back on those years and marvel that I survived them, and almost didn't, and carried psychological and physical scars that were evident years after (though both have faded so that I don't consider myself having PTSD as I used to--little flashes here and there, but nothing like what it used to be--and I no longer have to cover the scar that used to be an angry red one on my neck as it's barely perceptible now). Still, some good and wild memories in those times as well, and even some of the more shocking and horrid ones can make me laugh in retrospect.

An astro-twin (identical chart as mine save different ASC and Houses) would've experienced her transiting Pluto to her Sag stellium as well, which would've been 12H for her instead of 5H...I'm intensely curious what the experience was like for her! Unfortunately, we're not on speaking terms (and even back then she loathed me and I only knew her from one class, which means I did not truly know her).

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curiouspisces89
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posted January 03, 2016 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouspisces89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post Paul! I have trine to my sun and sextile to my moon! But I have only realised the power of Pluto when he started to conjunct my moon and dsc! I think Pluto is all about making you realise the power that you have within which gives you amazing confidence and empowers you for life! Also I am a natural leader

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hypatia238
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posted January 03, 2016 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sun semisextile exact pluto, biquintile moon, sextile venus, mars and neptune and conjunct Saturn.

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posted January 03, 2016 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yota13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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DopGang
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posted January 04, 2016 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't read the whole thing. Sorry. I'm just more of a skimmer when any post gets lengthy.

Astrology has helped me so much. My 12th and Pluto conjunct asc have both caused me issues because before I understood astrology I didn't understand what was wrong with me. I looked to astrology to discover the root of the problem(s) so that I could fix them.
As it turns out, astrology has taught me that they are not problems at all. It's just who I am and it's ok.

Pluto/asc causes me to really dislike getting very personal at all unless I have built trust. I strongly dislike chit chat. At the store, getting my hair cut, even waiters/waitresses. It's not personal towards them. It's just that to me, I've come to eat, or get my hair cut, or get my shopping done and that's it. I didn't come to shoot the sh*t. LOL Being in Libra, I don't want confrontation with a stranger for several reasons, but I'd rather talk about something deeper and more interesting but that's generally what can cause discomfort for them and/or confrontation. So I just prefer not to chit chat at all.
Online is a little different. I can remain anonymous for one thing and more than that if I don't feel like talking then I can just lurk or leave without any awkwardness.

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PaulMcFly
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posted January 04, 2016 11:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
I didn't read the whole thing. Sorry. I'm just more of a skimmer when any post gets lengthy.

Astrology has helped me so much. My 12th and Pluto conjunct asc have both caused me issues because before I understood astrology I didn't understand what was wrong with me. I looked to astrology to discover the root of the problem(s) so that I could fix them.
As it turns out, astrology has taught me that they are not problems at all. It's just who I am and it's ok.

Pluto/asc causes me to really dislike getting very personal at all unless I have built trust. I strongly dislike chit chat. At the store, getting my hair cut, even waiters/waitresses. It's not personal towards them. It's just that to me, I've come to eat, or get my hair cut, or get my shopping done and that's it. I didn't come to shoot the sh*t. LOL Being in Libra, I don't want confrontation with a stranger for several reasons, but I'd rather talk about something deeper and more interesting but that's generally what can cause discomfort for them and/or confrontation. So I just prefer not to chit chat at all.
Online is a little different. I can remain anonymous for one thing and more than that if I don't feel like talking then I can just lurk or leave without any awkwardness.


I didnt read your whole message sorry.. Im kind of a skimmer when replies get lengthy

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DopGang
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posted January 04, 2016 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
I didnt read your whole message sorry.. Im kind of a skimmer when replies get lengthy

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