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Dancing Maenad
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posted January 16, 2016 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think interceptions can take over the sign on the house cusp? Like becoming so powerful and the chart owner is very aware of them and can consciously decide to express them instead of the signs on the cusps?

What do you think? Has anyone noticed that happening? Is it possible?

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posted January 16, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know... My Sun and Mercury are in Gemini intercepted in the 8th. But my Mercury is heavily aspected. I'm still very much a Gemini. But I still may approach 8th house issues in a more down to earth (Taurus) way.

Don't know if that helps...

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posted January 16, 2016 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you're sensitive to subtle energies, I would think that a relocation could help ease the inhibitions made by interception?

Or like I think you were saying, to focus the Will and energy INTO it, like taking care of a part of the body that needs more attention?

Certainly the Progression of time will eventually help move the houses and planets a bit.

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posted January 16, 2016 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People always say intercepted planets are all boxed-in and can't function effectively and I've always been unable to agree, because I feel my Moon Pluto conjunction that's intercepted, STRONGLY.

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posted January 17, 2016 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
When you're sensitive to subtle energies, I would think that a relocation could help ease the inhibitions made by interception?

Or like I think you were saying, to focus the Will and energy INTO it, like taking care of a part of the body that needs more attention?

Certainly the Progression of time will eventually help move the houses and planets a bit.


Interesting about relocation! I'd have to go South, perhaps SA. It's worth experimenting with it! I never considered relocation, Mirage you're a genius!! Yes, what I had in mind was focusing my will power into it. I'm way past progressions, the houses changed already but I didn't think I expressed the intercepted signs much - on contrary, I think I am now!

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posted January 17, 2016 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GB and Spongebob, I confess I only asked about intercepted signs, I personally do not have any planets intercepted, so I do not know what that's like.

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posted January 17, 2016 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Jupiter intercepted in Pisces in 3rd house. MAJOR influence and very noteable in my personality I`d say.

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posted January 17, 2016 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's what it's like for me.


I have Capricorn Asc with Aqua intercepted in the 1st. Obviously, also a Cancer DC and Leo intercepted in the 7th.

I have always embodied the Capricorn rising. I look the part and act the part. I liked Aquariuses but not all of them and for the most part loathed Leos (but not all of them). In the last few years but especially months I've been through some experiences that have helped me recognize especially the Aqua in me, but also the Leo in the 7th. Since we're usually projecting the 7th house on another, that one was a little harder. I finally realized that I am more Aquarian than I ever thought and it was especially during the t-Uranus on my natal Sun that things became even more intense in that respect. I have intense libertarian, egalitarian tendencies, I've became an agnostic and at some point last year my hair had more colors in it than I can name (including an intense shade of pink!). I'm also thinking of getting a tattoo which is something I never thought I would do. lol I realized just how much of a rebel and an independent person I am, how much I love my personal space and my freedom. The thing is, I love these things and I've come to the conclusion that they make me happy when I express them - opposite to how I feel when I express my Capricorn rising (it could also be because it receives 4 squares, but really that energy is a downer).

Now, like I said, things were a bit more complicated with the leo in the 7th house. I gradually realized that a Cancer/Lunar type of partner doesn't really fulfill me, especially as I became more of a freedom lover. I started to see them as needy and a dead weight. I wanted someone fun and adventurous, attractive (not that some of my exes weren't, but they all sort of had either low self confidence or something wrong with how they looked), someone I could be proud of, someone who could be my equal instead of a subordinate (Cancer also rules my 6th, they go hand in hand), so I guess he had to have a dominant personality. This is where I hit a wall, because I'm also dominant and that doesn't fly, yet I was never attracted to submissive types. It was an eye opener to see that this is actually what I want in a partner, I had put it on paper a few times but I didn't connect the dots to the intercepted Leo. Not to mention I was more likely repulsed by Leo men, up until my last boyfriend, who was one, though he acted more like a Cancer with me, but it was a good exercise.

So I now realize these intercepted signs bring me a lot of joy and make me happy and I want to express them all the time!

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posted January 17, 2016 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have Jupiter intercepted in Pisces in 3rd house. MAJOR influence and very noteable in my personality I`d say.

I agree, but what about the Pisces sign? How does that affect your 3rd house?

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posted January 17, 2016 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I might start with an Aquarian-Lilithian approach to the 3rd house (Lilith conjunct the cusp), and then people are surprised to find the Pisces-component of it along with Jupiter.
Aquarius is the door, but once you passed through the door you find an ocean of Pisceanness in that 3rd house.
Though the "label" on the front door might still look more Aquarian than Piscean.

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posted January 17, 2016 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, do you feel happier when you communicate in a Pisces manner vs Aqua manner? Can you do it consciously, at will?

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posted January 17, 2016 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like both.

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posted January 17, 2016 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you do it at will? Some say interceptions are blocked energy, I myself don't think so, though it took me 3 decades to be fully aware of mine.

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posted January 18, 2016 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something else you might want to consider are the effects (if any) of strong eclipses or certain potent Moons (FM/NM) have on your life.

(Or even think about relocating the longer transits you're having if it doesn't seem to do too well with you?)

Bob Marks (astrologer) talks about the imprint of Solar Return. He advises people to travel on their birthday to enhance their chart. To have the Return-Chart in a relo location in order to have the planets highlight specific areas of the chart you'd like to emphasize (or to 'lessen' a harsher configuration for your birthday's solar year).

I was thinking how the same 'travel' principle COULD apply to things... like strong Eclipses?

Many good wishes! Your Destiny Awaits You!

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posted January 18, 2016 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
GB and Spongebob, I confess I only asked about intercepted signs, I personally do not have any planets intercepted, so I do not know what that's like.

Hmmm... Well, if there is one, then by definition, there are two. Sag in my empty second house is the other side of my coin,.

Only, with my second empty, I rarely give it much notice until something transits or someone aspects it through synastry. This Saturn transit is hitting me hard for just that reason.

Would reacting to having my security threatened driving me to choose to put more faith in God be invoking Sag over Scorp? If so, then yes you can.

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posted January 18, 2016 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, Jupiter is certainly not blocked in my chart.

However, it is the chartruler, disposits my Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, NN (and ASC), is in mutual reception with Neptune right on the ASC, and additionally square that Neptune.

It`s probably the puppetmaster in my chart, pulling all the strings.

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posted January 18, 2016 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Something else you might want to consider are the effects (if any) of strong eclipses or certain potent Moons (FM/NM) have on your life.

(Or even think about relocating the longer transits you're having if it doesn't seem to do too well with you?)

Bob Marks (astrologer) talks about the imprint of Solar Return. He advises people to travel on their birthday to enhance their chart. To have the Return-Chart in a relo location in order to have the planets highlight specific areas of the chart you'd like to emphasize (or to 'lessen' a harsher configuration for your birthday's solar year).

I was thinking how the same 'travel' principle COULD apply to things... like strong Eclipses?

Many good wishes! Your Destiny Awaits You!

(music) Get Here (Oleta Adams, lyrics) [4:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWqg_dS2sL0


That's interesting! I can attest to the traveling for your birthday and the change it makes to the SR, only I didn't check astrology before I did it and ended up with a worse SR than the original one. I had one of the worst years of my life, however yes - traveling for your bday definitely changes the year you're having afterwards.

This year I don't intend to do that, the SR is quite similar to my natal chart and has Pluto on Asc. I'll take it. I like that it's a lot like my chart, I already feel a lot like myself and it has Pluto on Asc - I can transform what I don't like.

I haven't paid too much attention to eclipses, although when I did (and those who made conjunctions to my chart) - the effects were definitely there, though more subtle and long term, but they were transformative.

I recently updated this thread. I know, a lot has been edited. I always do that with him, I don't know why. In short, he and I had some synastric oppositions being activated by the eclipse. In Universe's unpredictable fashion, nothing came about the way it seemed it would, meaning that we did not mend terms, but I did learn a very valuable lesson from him, and recently after another man came through, very similar to him. The lessons I learned from the first Scorpio helped me manage the situation with the second one (granted, a less wilder version of the first) and further lead to even more insight about myself. It was a little convoluted, I don't know if this is how eclipses work, or if this is how they work on me, but that's what happened with that one, 1.5 years later.


I intend to travel to a country that makes me Aquarius rising, but I will most likely not relocate. Maybe this year or the next and the destination is South Africa. I've been through the whole should I relocate process and decided I should stay here if I wanted to evolve spiritually. Can't take the easy way out, I'm still a Cap rising you know. These are the cards I was dealt, I have to make something out of them with what I have.

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posted January 18, 2016 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Hmmm... Well, if there is one, then by definition, there are two. Sag in my empty second house is the other side of my coin,.

Only, with my second empty, I rarely give it much notice until something transits or someone aspects it through synastry. This Saturn transit is hitting me hard for just that reason.

Would reacting to having my security threatened driving me to choose to put more faith in God be invoking Sag over Scorp? If so, then yes you can.


It can very well be a manifestation, GB! 2nd house is not just money, is also everything we value and find our security/stability in - if that is God for you, then indeed it sounds more like Sag than Scorp! Good news, thank you!

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posted January 18, 2016 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, Jupiter is certainly not blocked in my chart.

However, it is the chartruler, disposits my Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, NN (and ASC), is in mutual reception with Neptune right on the ASC, and additionally square that Neptune.

It`s probably the puppetmaster in my chart, pulling all the strings.


Hmm, thank you Ceri.

So apparently I could, if I wanted to, act more like an Aqua rising than a Cap rising. Having Uranus conj my Asc by antiscia certainly helps, I suppose I always was a bit Aquarian, a bit more than I thought I mean. The only thing that sorta bothers me about becoming an Aqua rising is being all friendly and sociable lmao. I admit I feel more like a hermit/Capricorn most of the time, but baby steps.

I also want to bring out more of that stagnant Leo energy in me. I recently had to give a presentation and in my head I owned them lol. I plan to become a really good public speaker (I must! NN in Gemini in the 5th), but one that entertains the public rather than reads boring data out of a screen. I feel it coming, I know I have it in me, the problem is stage fright makes me return to Cap mode (how I HATE that sign!!). So I bored the hell out of the public that day, but that's only because I didn't follow with what I had in my head, I felt like the jokes I had planned were a bit too unconventional for that crowd and took the boring route out. Lesson learned!

You know how I feel like? It's as if I have all this vibrant poise and energy in me, that's fun and unconventional and really interesting, but because all my life I've been this very rigid, conventional (bohhhring!!) person, it feels hard to bring it out. I feel ridiculous every time I want to bring it out, even if it's something minor like dancing. Any sort of performance or self expression, for that matter.

Ahh how I hope to rid myself of that Cap/Can shell and release the lively gist inside.

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posted January 21, 2016 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 21, 2016 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're 54? Wouldn't have guessed, you give out a younger vibe. So you also have Leo/Aqua intercepted! How is that working for you?

You can delete your chart if you want to. I got you now.

It is as I suspected. Sun trine Venus dw. I have that with my cat. He's the only male who stuck around lol. I like your posts. Don't understand why you keep erasing them but they're nice to read while they're there.

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posted January 21, 2016 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 21, 2016 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
You're 54? Wouldn't have guessed, you give out a younger vibe. So you also have Leo/Aqua intercepted! How is that working for you?

You can delete your chart if you want to. I got you now.



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posted January 21, 2016 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm I think you have me mistaken for someone else. I'm a fire girl.

If you want me to delete your age, let me know. Your secret's safe with me.

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posted January 21, 2016 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well most house systems have late Leo on the 11th.
I feel my Uranus and Node as 11th, and my Venus and moon as 10th. I feel the interception
the most from other persons via Pisces on 5th
oddly, or I think its odd because not what I expect. Likely because Geo Virgo means Helio Pisces and Neptune is so strong in my chart.
Helio Juno at H nodes of Amor and Asteria,LOL.

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