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Cappi112
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posted January 18, 2016 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been trying to, rather than focus on short term transits, look at bigger progressions and solar return, etc.

So I looked up my Solar return, and got prettyyyy confused. Going by where I was on my birthday last week - Amsterdam, NL - this is going to be a rough year. And actually, a lot of the influences don't make a ton of sense for where my life is. I was surprised to see it.

But, when I adjusted it to my usual home (where I'll end the year most likely - back in the states after my visa ends in September, and where I was for most of last year), not only is it a much better chart, but it also makes sense for where I am in my career, relationships, family, and so on. If you were to go with the first chart, you would expect pretty much every area of my life to have hardships and massive shocks. While I know that can happen, it seems a bit extreme this year. Most of the trials have come and gone which led me TO europe.

So what is your take on the location? Clearly it has some importance since it effects the houses and overlays so much... But I am a bit lost!

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fiola
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posted January 18, 2016 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The solar return should be calculated on the place you're at during the return, that's the traditional way to do it, to see how will tis year play out for you, however astrology i very flexible, so an aspect between any planets could mean different things, and a bad aspect isn't always bad in outcome.

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posted January 18, 2016 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only thing that really made me nervous in terms of 'bad aspects' with the SR report I pulled from where I am now, was that Mars is sitting on the SR ASC, and in the 12H,conjunct my natal Pluto (which is in my 8H).

No matter where I look, there are such negative interpretation of this, and also... it just doesn't seem right for where I am right now. I'm kind of just starting out in most senses, especially financially and in my career - and my relationship is not really the type I can imagine being torn down out of nowhere.

But drawing the SR report from my normal home location, Mars is located in my 2H, which makes a lot more sense, especially since I am starting out in my business and in Europe and with my finances. Any sense of 'Ruin' happened to me before moving here last spring - I lost my job, I broke up with my bf, family members who have now passed away fell deeply sick, etc.

So that is why this alarmed me.

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posted January 18, 2016 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heard that a SR doesn't always play out, it is only a possibilty.

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posted January 18, 2016 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars is energy, being on the ascendant could mean you're facing this year head on, with courage and force (althought it could get diffused, it sitting in your 12th) conjunct your natal pluto means this energy would help you evolve (destroy the old and create the new and this would apply for what you mentionned, as in now you're finding stability before you had to go through the worst of all losses).
The greatest things are achieved by working throught the hardest aspects. Bear them in mind and be ready for when times get tough.

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posted January 18, 2016 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fiola:
Mars is energy, being on the ascendant could mean you're facing this year head on, with courage and force (althought it could get diffused, it sitting in your 12th) conjunct your natal pluto means this energy would help you evolve (destroy the old and create the new and this would apply for what you mentionned, as in now you're finding stability before you had to go through the worst of all losses).
The greatest things are achieved by working throught the hardest aspects. Bear them in mind and be ready for when times get tough.

Needed to hear this fiola, thank you.

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posted January 19, 2016 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also notice, if I go by the solar return based on where I was during my bday this month (Amsterdam), Uranus sits in my 5th house, squaring the SR sun and Pluto.

BUT it makes a big trine with Venus (which is in the 2nd), and trines SAturn as well (in 2). Trines the MC. (Venus is also trining MC). But semisquares moon in 4h.

What bothers me is that, I would read this as a possible sudden pregnancy (which I'm not ready for) or break up (Which I am even LESS ready for or expecting).

And if I ran this report from where I originally would have been (in New York), the report would be filled with relationship promise, for one thing, as well as a good year for love on the whole.

What bothers me is that of course I felt obligated to be in Amsterdam for this part of the year, but was originally going ot be back in NY around this time. And being away from my SO doesn't make it an easy year to begin with. It feels almost like the universe is mirroring back - If I am this far away, the relationship is going to be completely unstable.

Any other way to look at this? I feel really bummed.

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posted January 19, 2016 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For some reason my update to this isn't posting...

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posted January 19, 2016 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
gonna bump this just bc I noticed my updates didnt post at all to the thread before others went to the top of the list, so it's buried.

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fiola
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posted January 19, 2016 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're more than welcome Cappi112 ^_^ and you're lucky you got a big trine this year, i'm stuck with a T-square

I have uranus square sun natally, it isn't half as bad as people claim it to be, on the contrary, it's actually owesome to have, it makes me quirky and unstable, but both qualities are quite well liked because i have it balanced with a trine to my moon. But it does bring unstability to the house, so i would take all the precautions to avoid any major change in that area (be careful about your contraceptions, check the transitig planets with your composite and synastry charts to be ready for whatever storm is coming your way..).
Now for the big trine, if one planet is activated, the others will by default, so if uranus is activated (which causes you fear) venus and jupiter, both benefic planets will react (in a positive way, since their aspect is harmomious) to help you.

And please remember, astrology is here to help you see what's coming your way so that you know how best to deal with it, don't try to "cheat" just so you're more satisfied, and then be unprepared when something will come up.

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